SmithAir747
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Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:37 am

I have been wondering for years now...Is it possible to paint an airliner in a metallic coloured paint? For example, metallic green and gold for a Celtic-inspired paint scheme, or whatever.

For example, here are two photos of a 1:100 Boeing 747 model I custom-painted in Celtic-inspired "Smith Airways" colours, using metallic jade green and metallic gold and silver:

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Do you think metallic colours could be painted on aircraft, like on this model, in real life, to give them a real metallic sheen?

Please let me know if this is possible on real airliners! It would give airliners such a beautiful metallic sheen!

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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:04 am

Braniff in the late 1970s had a 727 painted in the Ultra colors in Sparkling Burgandy which was metallic. I never saw it, but I have read it really sparkled in the sunlight (hence the name).

Also, Northwest and Spirit to an extent have metallic silver paint on their current liveries.
 
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:10 am

Quoting SmithAir747 (Thread starter):
Do you think metallic colours could be painted on aircraft, like on this model, in real life, to give them a real metallic sheen?

Well I do agree that it would look amazing. As soon as I saw your picture, Gulf Air came to my mind. I've seen two of their aircraft at CDG and LHR and I'm not sure if their paint is metallic. However, it looks very nice!

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I've no other airline in mind that uses these metallic paints, but I'm sure there are some of them around!

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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:23 am

Quoting ORD (Reply 1):
Also, Northwest and Spirit to an extent have metallic silver paint on their current liveries.

Northwest's paint has a metallic effect, but it's white more than silver. It gives a pearlescent/glowing effect in the sun.

Part of the problem with real metallic paints is that they're heavier than normal paints. Typically you get the metallic effect by throwing in very fine pieces of metal, silica, plastic, or some other sort of reflective solid bits into the paint. On a large chunk of painted object like an airplane, it would make the plane significantly heavier, and thus less desireable as a livery for many airlines.
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:51 am

The big "Frontier" on the side of our A318/319's is a small metal flake silver from Desotho Paints. Talking to the paint shop chaps in HAM, the NWA silver is a mica based paint. Difficult to apply and even more difficult to match after any maintenance.
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 1:55 am

The "Scandinavian" titles on the sides of SAS aircraft are also metallic
 
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:00 am

I believe the new AC (Ice Blue?) paint has metallic flakes in it.
 
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:10 am

That Gulf Air Scheme is a Pain for Mx.
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:15 am

Etihad (EY) has a pearlescent livery, which looks spectacular.

But when you start swapping parts out, then it starts looking a little scrappy. The A310F has had it's nose cone replaces on it's last maintenance stint, and it currently has a plain white one...
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:42 am

I believe the Ryanair Dreamliner scheme has metallic flakes...

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Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:45 am

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Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:50 am


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VS are a little bit metallic too.


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So are GF i think.
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 2:49 pm

Virgin Atlantic use "metallic" paint, but its not actually paint with metal particles as you find on cars. The metallic effect is by using reflective plastic particles mixed with the paint rather than metal ones. The reason behind not using metal particles is that if the aircraft has a lightening strike (nearly all do quite regularly)major damage will result as the metal particles will allow the voltage to travel all around the ship, and the plastic insulates.
So to answer you question, yes you can have metallic paint effect, but not by using paint containing metal particles.
 
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RE: Metallic Paints For Airliners: Are They Possible?

Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:08 pm

Quoting Sevenforeseven (Reply 12):
Virgin Atlantic use "metallic" paint, but its not actually paint with metal particles as you find on cars. The metallic effect is by using reflective plastic particles mixed with the paint rather than metal ones. The reason behind not using metal particles is that if the aircraft has a lightening strike (nearly all do quite regularly)major damage will result as the metal particles will allow the voltage to travel all around the ship, and the plastic insulates.
So to answer you question, yes you can have metallic paint effect, but not by using paint containing metal particles.

That is bizarre and...simply not true. It has nothing to do with lightning and everything to do with weight, honestly. A 747 covered in flecks of metal that aren't structural just burns more fuel.
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