drinkstrolley
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:39 pm

Let's all chip in and buy this Tristar, only 2.8 million USD and hit the Carribean for the winter!!

We need to find someone to fly it! I've got a multi engine rating (Seneca!) but I think flying this can is a bit different!!

Cheers!

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Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:33 pm

With 10,000 photographers here on A.net.....I will be assuming there are 50,000 members.


2,800,000 USD / 50,000 members = $56 USD per person.


This can happen!!!!  thumbsup  We can start an A.net charter airline!!!
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:52 pm

I'll pitch in, but then we'll all fight to be in the cockpit...

 Smile Disaster in the making Big grin That plane would never leave the ground.

I'm sure there are enough A.netters here who are more than qualified to fly it  Smile
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:05 pm

It's a good idea and I state that if this is serious I would be willing to give my share to the cost.

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Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:08 pm

Ahhh here we go again the montly "Let's chip in a tenner and buy this aircraft" thread!  Smile

Not forgetting peeps that you won't get 10,000 A.net members to chip in when most of them don't even read the forums, and then of course the maintenance and upkeep of a Tristar - I suppose this one must fuel/maintain itself?

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Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:25 pm

This sounds like a cool idea to me. We could have a sort of eBay auction as well where the highest bidder got to fly it. Of course, limited to people with more than 500 hours on MS Flight Simulator. Wouldn't want to compromise safety, would we?
 
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Thu Nov 10, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting Noelg (Reply 4):
Ahhh here we go again the montly "Let's chip in a tenner and buy this aircraft" thread!

Worth dreaming............!!!
 
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:06 am

Actually it could work out and I'd love to partake in such an endeavor - even with a little more than $56. Plus, I'll be perfectly happy to just occasionally have a moment in the flightdeck...

But of course this won't happen. Although if it did - do you think we could actually fly it? Wouldn't certain countries (no namecalling please  Smile) immediately assume that we are a terrorist organization?
 
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:28 am

I dont know about you guy's but I could envisage later on in my life seeing such a venture off this website..call me mad, but you heard it here first. The world is a weird and wonderful place.

Rob  wave 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:38 am

The L-1011 is a maintenace pig nowadays. We have enough trouble trying to locate spares for them.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:49 am

Quoting Miamiair (Reply 10):
The L-1011 is a maintenace pig nowadays. We have enough trouble trying to locate spares for them.

I agree the aircraft that would be best would be 737.

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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:57 am

It would be cool to have a A.net world tour....fly here stop there (mainly for photos).....also as many have not realised....the fuselage of that great bird is PRIME advertising space.  Wink

There are people here from literally all walks of aviation life, from upper management to janitorial. We have everything we need....except for the will to actually do it.

A week ago we were patting a 19 year old on the back for doing the same basic thing.....so whaddya say?
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:04 am

What happens once you purchase it? You have to pay storage fees and all that other good stuff, insurance, fuel and much much more...... Kinda like what the word boat stands for, "bring out another thousand!"
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:12 am

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 1):
With 10,000 photographers here on A.net.....I will be assuming there are 50,000 members.


2,800,000 USD / 50,000 members = $56 USD per person.

And as Luv2fly has correctly alluded to, this amount does not even represent the tip of the proverbial iceberg of what the actual costs would be -- for a L-1011 to be put on static display. To fly it, add many more "icebergs" to the cost.

Am hoping the original thread was tongue-in-cheek rather than serious thought.
 
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:20 am

Who couldn't afford even 4x that amount....if there was a true groundswell to make it a reality. No doubt it takes determination and vision (and money), but hey....it half of you forum addicts spent half the time you spend typing on here...we'd already be past step one.

What makes dozens of old navy men come together, buy an old cruiser and rebuild her...when the costs are enormous? LOVE!!!! that's the reason.

Isn't there enough LOVE here to make it work?

NOTE: New paint .... and a very decent livery at that (Thai, Martinair style) Blue and White (Please examine your browser frame...making note of A.net's primary colors  Wink ). Huh? I smell opportunity here.

[Edited 2005-11-10 17:28:04]
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:27 am

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 15):
Isn't there enough LOVE here to make it work?

"All you need is Love da da da da"

Rob  wave 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:29 am

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 12):
the fuselage of that great bird is PRIME advertising space.

Exactly...You don't think we couldn't find companies that would advertise on this plane???? I'll bet we could.

Airliners.net Airways

It has a nice ring to it.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:31 am

I call shotgun.  Smile

If you've got a multi-engine rating, all you need is a few endorsements (high-performance, complex and high-altitude IIRC) and the type rating.

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Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:34 am




Jeesh guys and gals ...... I mean, Jeesh. Speechless.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:37 am

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 15):
Isn't there enough LOVE here to make it work?

Well, I too like to make LOVE  Wink

Seriously, it would be a great idea to have an A.netter plane. Aren't there any good hearted rich men who could donate a 727 or a 707 which they own just to raise the eyebrows of jealous onlookers? ( Sultan of Brunei kind) They could "donate" to us sans crew, interiors and stickers. We can handle the rest.

Let's fight over livery and logo before buying one. That is needed for proposal.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:46 am

I've flown 20hrs in a L1011 full motion sim Big grin

She's great to hand fly, but its best to turn off DLC on an ILS as it can get a bit confusing.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:00 am

Quoting Captain.md-11 (Reply 21):
I've flown 20hrs in a L1011 full motion sim

Well your in the running for the right seat on the flight deck. Don't forget to change your name if you start flying the plane.. laughing 

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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:05 am

What about an F/E ?
Anyone here an F/E

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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:10 am

I have a feeling their must be a few people more qualified than me
though   


I'd just have to add L1011 to my name, I love both types equally.

Flying the L1011-500 sim made me respect the Tristar in so many ways.She is far more powerful than I had anticipated, she rockets off after initial climb (at 210,000kg TOW.) The systems (autoland etc) are fantastic, DLC is ingenious.As my first jet experience,I loved every second. Lockheed made an absolute gem.

It's a shame i'll never actually fly on one, although $56 bucks you say?  

[Edited 2005-11-10 18:12:08]
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:44 am

Not much use if you can't fly it in the US or the EU:

"(SORRY NOT AVAILABLE USA OR JAA OPERATIONS)"
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:51 am

Quoting Captain.md-11 (Reply 21):
but its best to turn off DLC on an ILS as it can get a bit confusing.

The Tristar DLC system allows for smooth approaches and landings as the glide slope height maintained using the spoilers in lieu of the elevators. Additionally turning off DLC would also turns off the Auto Ground Spoilers.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:17 am

474218, exactly, the DLC allows some of the smoothest approaches ever. The sim is different than a real airplane. My dad has an L-1011 F/E rating with almost 10,000 hours as an F/E on the L-10, and over 2,000 as an F/O on the it. I think he would qualify.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:14 am

You are forgetting that's an old frame, probably riddled with corrison. Nasty maintenance costs! Ouch!
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:23 am

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 11):
also as many have not realised....the fuselage of that great bird is PRIME advertising space.

If that is all it took then Western Pacific would still be flying...... If someone was going to advertise on a plane they would pick one flying for a major airline that was in fact flying day in and day out, not one being used casually, if that.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:18 am

Western Pacific has labor costs. We'd be an all volunteer outfit.  Wink Doing it for the LOVE of it.

50,000 owner/operators....stationed all over the world.

Let's not let any hatred of the 3-holer cloud your vision.  mischievous 
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:26 am

We need to invest in a SP...Now we're talking
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:39 am

Maybe the reality wouldn't be so far away if they considered having a project to raise money for a smaller aircraft. Maybe a Fokker 50, BAE ATP, Dehavilland DHC-8-102, ATR 72 or something? I have no idea what the costs would be, but one would assume that the smaller the aircraft, the lower the costs. (*Typically speaking*)

http://www.aviatorsale.com/aix3686/

Please don't flame me. I am no expect, just an enthusiast.  Smile

[Edited 2005-11-10 21:47:31]
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:53 am

The US$550,000 Hawker Siddeley 125 on the same website seems to be a pretty good deal, considering it's had all its recent maintenance work done.

The US$90,000 727-100F without the engines is, well, a different story. But I wonder if there's someone who would be willing to donate three JT-8s or Speys. LOL.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:16 am

Ugh...could you imagine US staring up an airline??!!

You'd have half of us screaming to be an LCC, and half of us a full service airline. You'd have people fighting about who gets to do what within the company. You'd have most of us fighting over getting to be on the crew in one fashon or another. It would be a disaster Smile

50,000 owners would be an investor's nightmare...How would you even begin to divide up profits, if there are any? Smile
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:40 am

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 33):
50,000 owners would be an investor's nightmare...How would you even begin to divide up profits, if there are any?

The profits for each person would be about  twocents  .
But we don't care about the profits let's buy the aircraft right now  Wink.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:48 am

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 29):
Let's not let any hatred of the 3-holer cloud your vision.

There is no hatred, just being realistic and down to earth.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:56 am

How about an old NW DC-9?  duck 
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:00 am

WHo owned this tristar previously?
PARIS, FRANCE...THE BEIRUT OF EUROPE.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:02 am

Ugh...could you imagine US staring up an airline??!!

A L-1011 might be a better group investment , rather than a airbus or boeing. This might just start an airbus boeing fullscale war.

Pie in the sky ,i know , but what about using the aircraft in airshows and then leasing it to a museam of a couple of years ,and rotate it round. Places like Duxford etc.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:16 am

Is it me, or does this Tristar look like one of these ?

View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 37):
WHo owned this tristar previously?

L-1011 s/n 1066 was delivered to TWA April 18 1974 and remained in service with them until its retirement on April 14 1997.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:21 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 39):
Is it me, or does this Tristar look like one of these ?

The picture is a L-1011-500 the one for sale/lease is a L-1011-1.
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:24 am

I will sell the outside of the plane in Holland. A few commercials would bring us already some pingelingeling... And we must make an adventure airplane of it. Let's make it how most of you probably consider Amsterdam. We make the U L T I M A T E party plane of this Lockeed. A dancefloor with some sex/drugs/rock'n roll will make us earning enough. We will make charterflights to the Caribbean, Brazil & Europe for the wealthy youth. They can book 1 week with party in Caribbean, Brazil and Ibiza and of course between those spots in the AIR. It doesn't matter where people join the plane, they pay to fly the 'triangle' USA-CARIBBEAN-BRAZIL-EUROPE-USA. We will fly them around. And in the meanwhile we use the airplane a little bit  snaggletooth 

I am in!

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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:24 am

Quoting MD80fanatic (Reply 1):

2,800,000 USD / 50,000 members = $56 USD per person.

I'm in. where do I send my money.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:26 am

Lets do it. I will fly it .....
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:28 am

SAA are selling SP's and 742-743 from about R9mill-R13mill, $1.34-$1,94 mill US.

They havnt been desserter so they wont need major overhauls and I know an ex 744 Captain who has many friends still type rated.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:33 am

I might consider investing a little bit of cash, IF the cost was low enough. And, IF I got use of it more than once a year. Anyway. Like I said, all of us owning it would be a nightmare. Figuring out the logistics of countless countries being represented would be pain enough.
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:34 am

Come on, the preservation / pleasureflight market is SO small, you really can't get 50.000 people to pay $60, which is much money for an aircraft many don't really bother about, plus that many who will pay, it will still be unlikely to offer them a ride on.
Earlier this year, Airevents.de tried to organize a DC-8 pleasure flight, a beautiful and historic aircraft, which isn't flying on passenger flights since 1996 anymore. They couldn't even find enough (only 80 needed !!) people after lots of publicity so why would 50.000 pay for a Tristar, a type you can or could fly fairly easy on (til last year; fly Toronto-Florida for $200, now fly Thai Sky Bangkok-Hong Kong for $100).
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:40 am

:D  Big grin  Big grin Great idea, I'll definetly pitch in!! We could customize with a cool interior and lots of photo ports. It would be a plane spotter's paradise in the sky!!
 
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RE: I've Got A Plan... (Let's Buy This Tristar)

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:43 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 22):
Anyone here an F/E

I took Math, so I guess I could handle being the F/E  Smile

but we cant use it in JAA and FAA areas, so its gonna be a bit tricky.

Lets slap IFE and new 777 interior in this jet and make winglets for it
and how about Trent remodification? maybe we can
get Lockheed Martin to restart its commercial line?
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