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Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:51 am

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2005/q4/nr_051110g.html

Way to go Boeing!... That's half way around the world. Truly amazing.
From Boeng website:

Boeing 777-200LR Sets New World Record for Distance
LONDON, Nov. 10, 2005 -- Boeing [NYSE: BA] established a new world record for distance traveled nonstop by a commercial airplane when a Boeing 777-200LR Worldliner landed at London Heathrow Airport today. The 777-200LR (Longer Range) flew 11,664 nautical miles (21,601 km) during its 22-hour 42-minute flight that left Hong Kong flying eastbound the evening of Nov. 9. The distance set by the 777-200LR is farther than any previous commercial jetliner has flown and exceeds a distance of more than halfway around the world.

"This record-setting distance flight exemplifies the pioneering aviation spirit that has made Boeing a leader in the aerospace industry," said Lars Andersen, vice president and program manager, 777 Program, Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The 777 has been a leader in its market ever since it first went into service. The 777-200LR Worldliner continues that market leadership by offering unmatched capability that allows airlines to offer passengers nonstop routes to their destinations."

The 777-200LR left Hong Kong International Airport at 10:30 p.m. local time Nov. 9 and landed at London Heathrow Airport at approximately 1:30 p.m. GMT Nov. 10. The airplane traveled eastbound towards London, flying over the North Pacific Ocean, across North America, and then over the mid-north Atlantic Ocean en route to London.

"The performance of the 777-200LR during the record flight was exceptional," said Suzanna Darcy-Hennemann, the project pilot leader for the 777-200LR record flight. "It took the support of a great team of people to make this historic flight a success. I'm proud to be a part of that team."

On its flight from Hong Kong to London , the 777-200LR flew farther than any previous commercial jetliner, surpassing two notable previous distance records. For an airplane its size and class, the 777-200LR replaces the distance record set by a 747-400 in 1989 that flew 9,200 nautical miles (17,039 km) nonstop from London to Sydney. Also, the 777-200LR exceeded the distance traveled by a 777-200ER (Extended Range) that flew 10,823 nautical miles (20,044 km) from Seattle to Kuala Lumpur in 1997, setting a speed and distance record. Although the 777-200LR flew farther, this record will continue to stand because the 777-200ER was classified in a lighter weight category for its record attempt.

The 777-200LR is the world's longest-range commercial jetliner and is capable of connecting virtually any two cities around the globe. It is the fifth 777 model. In service, the 777-200LR can carry 301 passengers and baggage up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,445 kilometers).

The first 777-200LR will be delivered to Pakistan International Airlines in early 2006. To date, 43 airlines around the world have ordered more than 700 777s.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:55 am

Just saw it on the news! awesome!! congrats to boeing!!
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:58 am

Great work Boeing.

I hope I will see more orders in order book of B777-200LR in the near future.
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:59 am

Way to go Boeing.

I just hope to see one T7 in TP colours some day.

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:59 am

There was another thread on this but it was 200+ post.

Grats to Boeing.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:59 am

Finally an airliner capable of linking YWG to the civilized world! Congratulations to Boeing and the crew.

What would the load (i.e., tonnage) have been equivilent to in terms of passengers and cargo?
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:00 am

According to CNN they had TWO sunrises. Amazing.
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:07 am

Quoting TP777 (Reply 3):
I just hope to see one T7 in TP colours some day.

That would be nice but don't hold your breath.

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:11 am

Impressive but ultimately pointless.
 
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:13 am

Great feat for aerospace, I wonder how long before there is a commercial jet that can circumnavigate the world unrefueled, I know B-52's have done it with tanker support and the Rutans did it twice . I don't know if I would want to be a paying pax in coach on that flight from Hong Kong to London non-stop. Do you think Boeing Engineers are already thinking with a 787-200 LR JFK to BWI the long way.
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:16 am

I survived LAX to SIN non stop (both ways) for 16 hours of flying. Very easy flight, BUT, and this is one very big but, economy seating was 2-3-2, with 20" wide seats with leg rests, full recline (16" if I'm not mistaken), and a real crew that was actually interested in passenger comfort.

There is no way on god's green earth I am ever going to sit 3-3-3, in a minimally padded 17" seat that reclines 3", and a 31-32" pitch, with flight attendants who are more interested in reading fashion magazines than in cleaning off a dining tray, over the course of 23 hours.

This flight may have been the greatest engineering achievement since launching men to the moon. And both make about equal sense in my book. I'm not going.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:18 am

Quoting WINGS (Reply 7):
That would be nice but don't hold your breath.

I hope your wrong! Maybe you will see a RG and TP share a 777. Congrats to Boeing and to the engineers for a flawless test phase! Very impressive indeed!



Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

Why do you think its pointless? I think it shows confidence and capability of the 777 and its engines - even tho this will never happen in a real commercial flight.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:20 am

Quote:
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

hmmm... not sure i would agree with you on this one. let's face it, Boeing, Airbus, Lockheed, BAE, Bombadier... don't make "cool" airplanes do cool stuff just to see if they can. Market analysts do a tremendous amount of research before designing these things. Boeing saw a demand for an ultra-longhauler so they built it. not becuase they thought it would be cool to go in the Guinnes book of world records.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:20 am

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless

That's the spirit! What's the point in anything?
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:25 am

Quoting Lutenist (Reply 5):
What would the load (i.e., tonnage) have been equivilent to in terms of passengers and cargo?

From what I read in a newspaper here (stupid newspaper, no real reference) the flight was made with 2 additional tanks and 32 passengers.

Was to go for Boeing. I hope to see the same success with the A380 program!

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:28 am

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 11):
I hope your wrong! Maybe you will see a RG and TP share a 777.

I hope I am wrong. The B777 is a marvelous aircraft and am sure it would fit well into Taps fleet. Although I would expect to see the A340-600 in Taps colors before any B777.

As for RG don't forget who will be in management control of who. If I was Boeing I would keep an eye out.

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:29 am

I'm wrong actually, the point of the flight was a PR boost.

The plane isn't pointless, far from it. The practice of flying it 11,664 of miles with no passengers means nothing to the airlines though, does it. I'm much more impressed with the max pax range, which is truly impressive. Especially if they extend it.

[Edited 2005-11-10 20:31:37]
 
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:35 am

oh, that's different. still, i would disagree with you anyway. although many would argue that the missions to the moon were pointtless and i disagree with them as well... for the same reason. it's an engineering feat. but yes, it means nothing for the airlines. that i agree with.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:46 am

Quoting Darrenthe747 (Thread starter):
The 777-200LR is the world's longest-range commercial jetliner and is capable of connecting virtually any two cities around the globe. It is the fifth 777 model. In service, the 777-200LR can carry 301 passengers and baggage up to 9,420 nautical miles (17,445 kilometers).

This profile is a heck of a lot different than flying 35 people 11,664 NM in a publicity move.

I'm a Boeing fan, but would wait to see what kind of performance in terms of range and payload an airline can get in revenue service.
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:49 am

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

Not if it sells more 777s.

A statement like yours shows a serious lack of understanding of PR and marketing. And to further prove my point, you should check out the other thread that has 200+ posts.

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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:50 am

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 16):
The practice of flying it 11,664 of miles with no passengers means nothing to the airlines though, does it. I'm much more impressed with the max pax range, which is truly impressive. Especially if they extend it.

If you set aside all the hype and the hoopla associated with this flight, we should remember that there is still that "Experimental" decal on the fuselage. More than being a record-breaking flight, I see this as an endurance test, for the airframe and especially the GE90-110B1s. Imagine, two high-performance turbofan engines working nonstop for 23+ hours. From that perspective, this was a very significant flight. Everything else was just icing on the cake.

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Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:59 am

Quoting SparkingWave (Reply 19):
Not if it sells more 777s.

it won't. Airlines like to see more than sparkly publicity stunts before they get the chequebook out. The reporter specifically said it "did not impress British Airways".

It certainly won't do any harm but will not affect any purchasing decision.

The BBC had a reporter on the flight in cattle class, who emerged trashed by the experience. His body clock was disrupted and he was exhausted by the flight length. Certainly does not sell itself to ultra longhaul in economy seating!

the psychological effect of breaking a long journey with a refuelling stop is a powerful factor, as well as economically desirable due to fuel needed to fly those longhauls.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:10 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
it won't. Airlines like to see more than sparkly publicity stunts before they get the chequebook out. The reporter specifically said it "did not impress British Airways".

you'd be amazed how stupid some people are..
 
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:11 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
it won't. Airlines like to see more than sparkly publicity stunts before they get the chequebook out. The reporter specifically said it "did not impress British Airways".

It certainly won't do any harm but will not affect any purchasing decision.

The BBC had a reporter on the flight in cattle class, who emerged trashed by the experience. His body clock was disrupted and he was exhausted by the flight length. Certainly does not sell itself to ultra longhaul in economy seating!

the psychological effect of breaking a long journey with a refuelling stop is a powerful factor, as well as economically desirable due to fuel needed to fly those longhauls.

Do you have any more unsubstantiated, illogical, and off-the-cuff remarks or are you done for the day?

Boeing demonstrated the legs of this airplane which are impressive and set a world record. It may give the B777 an (even greater) edge in future sales competitions against the A345.

Intermediate fuel stops are not economically beneficial for airlines. Where do you come up with such tripe?

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:13 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
the psychological effect of breaking a long journey with a refuelling stop is a powerful factor, as well as economically desirable due to fuel needed to fly those longhauls.

This I would disagree on. I would rather fly non-stop than add two to three hours for a fuel stop. To fly one of those who works for me, that time adds about $500 to the bill (fully loaded per employee costs).

As to this flight... while its impressive to break a record, I would have been more impressed to see a loaded plane do SYD-LHR. It doesn't have to be pax, it could be the same weight of beer kegs.  bigthumbsup 

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 10):
There is no way on god's green earth I am ever going to sit 3-3-3, in a minimally padded 17" seat that reclines 3", and a 31-32" pitch, with flight attendants who are more interested in reading fashion magazines than in cleaning off a dining tray, over the course of 23 hours.

Ok, you make your point with great humor! But someone will want to fly the long hauls on the cheap (like me). Just as someone will get on the EK whalejets in Y for EU to Oz/Asia. The market is fragmenting and this provides quite a few niches. Otherwise Guam will still be a major pacific hub!  duck 

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 16):
I'm much more impressed with the max pax range, which is truly impressive. Especially if they extend it.

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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:16 am

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 24):
This I would disagree on. I would rather fly non-stop than add two to three hours for a fuel stop. To fly one of those who works for me, that time adds about $500 to the bill (fully loaded per employee costs).

agreed! It would be awesome to fly LHR-SYD nonstop or even LHR-AKL nonstop!
 
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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:18 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
The BBC had a reporter on the flight in cattle class, who emerged trashed by the experience. His body clock was disrupted and he was exhausted by the flight length. Certainly does not sell itself to ultra longhaul in economy seating!

The flight had just 35 passengers, so I'm sure the wimpy BBC reporter had plenty of room. Would he have been anymore comfortable on an A345?
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:20 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
it won't. Airlines like to see more than sparkly publicity stunts before they get the chequebook out.

Not so fast. Airbus was also quite guilty of marketing to the max the A340-500's long range when it first came out. SQ took the bait, even though they had to reduce a significant number of seats on the plane on its flights between SIN and JFK. TG also bought the plane, and I hear they're losing tons of money on their flights between BKK and JFK.

Remember this flight is continued reliability testing of the 777LR. It also clearly shows that the 777s potential blows the A340-500 out of the sky. And with Airbus a formidable competitor, this becomes anything but a "sparkly publicity stunt".

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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:21 am

Quoting BoeingBus (Reply 11):
Why do you think its pointless? I think it shows confidence and capability of the 777 and its engines - even tho this will never happen in a real commercial flight.

The 2nd part of your sentence answered the question in your first part.

I don't think any airline who buys this plane sanely expects to recreate this flight with cargo and a full load of pax.

It's purely marketing...designed to link an amazing accomplishment with a product line extension and the company who did so.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:23 am

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 10):
There is no way on god's green earth I am ever going to sit 3-3-3, in a minimally padded 17" seat that reclines 3", and a 31-32" pitch, with flight attendants who are more interested in reading fashion magazines than in cleaning off a dining tray, over the course of 23 hours.

That's easy to solve this problem - just buy a business class ticket.

This isn't the fault of the airplane, by the way.

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Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:26 am

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless

How is setting a world-record with your flagship competitive weapon pointless? It also sets a new standard for engineers and pilots to beat. If it were truly pointless as you argue, then you must have certainly condemned Airbus PR when it proclaimed the A340-500 as the world's longest range airplane. I am sure you did.

Pointless is going to an airport and recording the registration numbers off of aircraft. That is pointless.
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:27 am

So what's the current order count for the 777-200LR?

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 21):
the psychological effect of breaking a long journey with a refuelling stop is a powerful factor, as well as economically desirable due to fuel needed to fly those longhauls.

Personally, if I can get off the plane during a fuel stop, then I'd prefer it. Nothing like having a pint in some far flung airport checking out the local totty. Makes for a more interesting experience, me thinks.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:28 am

Great achievement Boeing. Who cares if it has no significance to airline operations. Its a feat of engineering prowess that will be remembered in the history books for all eternity. The wright brothers first flight didn't have much economic significance at the time either. They're still the most famous people in the history of aviation.

Once again, well done Boeing.

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:31 am

Quoting SparkingWave (Reply 27):
Not so fast. Airbus was also quite guilty of marketing to the max the A340-500's long range when it first came out. SQ took the bait, even though they had to reduce a significant number of seats on the plane on its flights between SIN and JFK.

I think SQ managers know that maximum range and maximum commercial round trip nonstop range are different things. They know that planes can't fly both ways routes as long as aircrafts max range.
The 345 Singapore have, have a range of 16,100km, so SQ surely knew there would be payload restrictions on the SIN-EWR flights (15345 km).

Quoting SparkingWave (Reply 27):
TG also bought the plane, and I hear they're losing tons of money on their flights between BKK and JFK.

Is it airbus fault that there is not sufficient market for that nonstop flight??
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:41 am

Quoting A360 (Reply 33):
SQ managers know that maximum range and maximum commercial round trip nonstop range

I'm not talking about max range vs. max commercial rdtrip range. I'm pointing out that the 777LR is a more efficient plane than the A345-500 and makes more money (or loses less) than it.

Quoting A360 (Reply 33):
Is it airbus fault that there is not sufficient market for that nonstop flight??

It's not Airbus' fault, but that won't matter if TG suspends the flight and disposes of that A340 - it'll be out of a job.

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:38 am

In the midst of all the "LR" news lately, I realized that EVA Air has options for the aircraft. Are they going to have a cool livery like the one on their 773ERs but saying "777-200LR"? That would be pretty cool...
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:43 am

Wohooo go Baby Blue 2  bigthumbsup 

It is an amazing achievement even if none of the airlines will ever repeat this feat.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:45 am

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):



Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:03 am

Quoting Lutenist (Reply 5):
Finally an airliner capable of linking YWG to the civilized world! Congratulations to Boeing and the crew.

Sorry... I don't think even Boeing can link YWG to the civilized world. Big grin

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 31):
Personally, if I can get off the plane during a fuel stop, then I'd prefer it. Nothing like having a pint in some far flung airport checking out the local totty.

22 hours on an A/C to anywhere... yeeesh.... I'm with you... get me off to sample the finest local brews, at least for while.......

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:26 am

Quoting Milan320 (Reply 31):
Personally, if I can get off the plane during a fuel stop, then I'd prefer it. Nothing like having a pint in some far flung airport checking out the local totty. Makes for a more interesting experience, me thinks.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:32 am

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

If that's the case, then the Wright brothers should not have bothered. After all the contraption carried one passenger/pilot (he was on his belly) for 120 ft.
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:32 am

I think you're all reacting a little too tenderly to my post. I had no idea it was so controversial.

  

I just thought the whole point in a commercial plane was to transport a payload between two or more destinations. So being able to fly next to nothing over a huge distance, doesn't really mean anything.

Maybe deep down you all know i'm right. Who knows? Regardless it's just an opinion, and that's all i'm gonna so can you stop quoting me now please.

Thank you.

And for * sake stop comparing it to the Wright Brothers. Apples and Oranges.

[Edited 2005-11-10 23:34:23]
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:40 am

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 42):
I think you're all reacting a little too tenderly to my post.

No, I think we all reacted accordingly.

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 42):
I had no idea it was so controversial.

I had no idea it was possible to post such a thing and not have any idea it wasn't controversial.

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 42):
So being able to fly next to nothing over a huge distance, doesn't really mean anything.

He has got ya here:

Quoting Aeronuts (Reply 41):
If that's the case, then the Wright brothers should not have bothered. After all the contraption carried one passenger/pilot (he was on his belly) for 120 ft.



Quoting RJ111 (Reply 42):
Maybe deep down you all know i'm right.

 rotfl 

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 42):
so can you stop quoting me now please.

Too late.
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:41 am

Congratulations Boeing!

I think the 777 is a great aircraft, and the 200LR is a honourable extension to the type.
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:56 am

Quoting Rj111 (Reply 8):
Impressive but ultimately pointless.

Riiight. It proves that virtually any city-pair is now within reach; it shows that this a/c can be a horse when it/s needed; it shows that it's a solid aircraft.

Other than that, it's pointless.  sarcastic 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:03 am

Quoting RJ111 (Reply 42):
Maybe deep down you all know i'm right.

Well, if you think it's "just your opinion" than why make such a flame bait statement about how you are right and everyone else is wrong. It is obviously more than just an opinion, but a belief.

Fine, you believe all aviation records are pointless.

Also, all sports records are pointless, and any record for that matter. There is no point to doing anything for the thrill of it, I guess, or to do something never been done before.

If it's not economically viable, it's not worth doing. That's your take?

I play the piano, but there's no way anyone would pay me to do it. That makes it pointless, I guess.

A world where everyone thinks like that, where there are no dreamers or nobody who does something for the fun of it would be a really sad place to live.

And honestly, it would mean we would not have automobiles or planes at all, as they were all just toys and whims to begin with.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:08 am

Quoting BoomBoom (Reply 40):
Agreed, I'd even spend the night--maybe get laid...

Fuel stop maybe 2 hours or so, maybe make it a quickie  Smile
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A388
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:09 am

Amazing achievement!!! Congrats to Boeing on this new record. The 777 is indeed the most succesful in its class. Hope to see more orders coming in for the 777. I always enjoy the arrival and departure of the 777 because of the very nice wingflex and the big engines powering the 777. Great aircraft if you would ask me! Big grin

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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:12 am

On a flight of 18 to twenty hours it seems to me that the plane is carrrying the fuel for the last half of the flight essentially as cargo as opposed to landing-taking up time paying more landing fees and taking off again.

My back of the envelope calculation says that the fuel for the second half of a long flight is something in the 60-80 ton level (I'm not an expert-but at 2500 g/p/m-its about 7 tons an hour). Even if the plane can carry a full loan when fully fueled does it cost the oeprator extra fuel to hal the 70 tons for the first half of the flight?

Its got to be much less espensive in terms of operating costs to fly ten hours land and refuel than carry the fuel for the hoel trip-but I'm not in operations-does anyone know the answer?
 
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RE: Boeing 777-200LR Breaks Longest Flight Record

Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:14 am

Quoting RAMPRAT980 (Reply 34):
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Most are descendants of us Europeans don't forget  old 

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