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United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:31 am

A job info page on the united.com webpage. The official hiring starts on the 13th.
From the UAL page: web page
Flight Attendants


We’re on the move with an unwavering commitment to exceptional customer service.

Our flight attendants are the most highly visible employees to our customers, and we are seeking people with a passion for customer service to fill this very important role.

We are looking for customer-focused, adaptable, reliable, positive, high-energy, self-motivated team players who thrive in a fast-paced, dynamic environment. If you have these qualities and a desire to help set United apart from the competition, we want you at United.

As a United flight attendant, you’ll have the opportunity to shape our customers’ perception of their travel experience. Consider joining this respected profession with its rich and distinguished history.

Take a look at United's competitive benefits, including:

Health and dental insurance
401k
Worldwide travel privileges for you and your eligible family members
It's time to fly.

United will begin accepting applications for Flight Attendant positions on November 13, 2005.

http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,51394,00.html
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:53 am

Yay! Come this way! Come this way!

As a United Flight Attendant, we've been waiting a long time for this! We are excited about our newhires joining the ranks in the New Year! It's a different company compared with a few years ago! Newhires will now immediately be covering our whole operation, not just domestic! Get ready to see the world and get paid for doing it!

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:59 am

i would apply but.....i was told the pay isnt very good.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:03 am

$17.22 an hour plus per diem.
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:07 am

you'll never get rich in this job, but if you don't need the money, the lifestyle is amazing!

Example- this year one of my vacations was three weeks long and encompassed a week in BOS, a week in HKG, and a week in HNL. I had first class through the whole itinerary and I only paid pennies on the dollar for landing fees since I used my performance passes (bonus passes). Nevermind the fact that I get to travel the world for work on a weekly basis for work.

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:15 am

Good to see UA is hiring flight attendants. I would have thought that with the shrinking fleet, UA wouldn't need more flight attendants. But it is great that they do. The average age of FAs at UA has been on the rise, and it will be good to see some younger faces with more energy. Hopefully they will emphasize hiring towards applicants with language skills since an important part of customer service to catering to all customers.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:15 am

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 2):
i would apply but.....i was told the pay isnt very good.



Quoting Gman3 (Reply 3):
$17.22 an hour plus per diem.

For a desk job, $17.22/hour equates to $35,817.60, based on 2,080 hours worked per year. Granted, hours worked for f/a's work differently, so I'd be curious to see what the annual actually is.

Regarding the per diem pay for meals, for the time worked, you get meals paid for, which means you're not having to spend your pay on groceries, etc. Plus, if you can get f/c type meals, then you're better off!

For someone graduating from college, it would be a great job to start with and help get the travel bug cured. Plus, you're learning valuable people skills by dealing with the cheapskate a-holes that demand something for nothing. But, I digress.... Wink
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:45 am

NO you will not get rich doing this job, but it has been a good experience for me and perhaps can be a stepping stone or a job you can do in conjunction with another job. I have made it work for me. I got to see places (HKG was one place I never imagined I would go to) . On my layovers I get to see my friends who have moved all over the country. And you get to work with great people who are in my mind, complete professionals who have to deal with many many things.
We have been so excited to have newhires. They are going to be so warmly welcomed. It would e a good time to come in.
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:12 am

Does anyone know if all the new hires will be based at a particular domicile, or will they be spread out?
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:21 am

First few classes will to IAD, and ORD, according to the webpage. SFO is said to open up later this year. That's what my friend at UAL told me.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:28 am

Quoting Gman3 (Reply 7):
NO you will not get rich doing this job, but it has been a good experience for me and perhaps can be a stepping stone or a job you can do in conjunction with another job.

In particular, hotels are typically very interested in hiring former FAs -- at least in some countries.
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:15 am

Are you going to apply, Jetjack74?
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:10 pm

personally, im going to seriously consider this untill the 13th! while working at ord i've been hit with a serious "i want to travel bug and look good in a uniform doing it" type of bug lol.
$17.22 is just $3 more than what i make with my current employer!

i only speak english and im learning spanish on my own right now. i think that would be the only thing that would be frowned upon by an airline looking for f/a's.

boy, decisions decisions!
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:17 pm

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 6):

For a desk job, $17.22/hour equates to $35,817.60, based on 2,080 hours worked per year. Granted, hours worked for f/a's work differently, so I'd be curious to see what the annual actually is.

About $14,500.00 a year. Flight attendant typically are guaranteed 70 hours a month. Most airlines prohibit flight attendants from flying more than 100 hours a month (stupid union rules), So don't expect to make more than $21,000.

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 12):
$17.22 is just $3 more than what i make with my current employer!

Doubt it. Remember, flight attendants are only on the pay clock from when the aircraft door is closed to when it is opened.

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:48 pm

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 11):
Are you going to apply, Jetjack74?

Maybe, I'd like to know what the Phase I, Phase II thing is. Giving up 8 years seniority at NW is a gamble, but when you're at the bottom anyway, what do ya have to lose? Not much.

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 13):
So don't expect to make more than $21,000.

If NW has it's way with us, I wouldn't expect to make more than 9,000 a year.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:49 pm

In my first year at United back in 1999, I made between 1600-2000 a month after taxes. We have had 2 contract ratifications since.
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:18 pm

Who really works for an airline because the money is great? The best part about flying for United is that international and domestic has been combined. New hires will be flying international trips from their first day on reserve.
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:23 pm

Is it just me or there is no link to actually apply for the possition on line? just describes the job and what to expect but no further steps to apply.
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:32 pm

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 6):
For a desk job, $17.22/hour equates to $35,817.60, based on 2,080 hours worked per year. Granted, hours worked for f/a's work differently, so I'd be curious to see what the annual actually is.

F/As work about half that, so you can see it is not particularly good at all

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 6):
Plus, if you can get f/c type meals, then you're better off!

Actually, according to the UA F/A contract, they don't get meals anymore. They do get per diem, but that is it
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:03 pm

Quoting Yyzcabincrew (Reply 17):
Is it just me or there is no link to actually apply for the possition on line? just describes the job and what to expect but no further steps to apply.

United will be accepting applications starting November 13th. Today is November 10th  Smile

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:50 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 18):
Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 6):
Plus, if you can get f/c type meals, then you're better off!

Actually, according to the UA F/A contract, they don't get meals anymore. They do get per diem, but that is it

We get meals. All international trips provide us with crew meals. Domestically, depending on certain criteria, a meal is provided as well.
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:14 pm

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 2):
i would apply but.....i was told the pay isnt very good.

I would apply, but I dont meet the FAA requirements
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:34 pm

One reason that UAL is hiring is because of the MANY flight attendants who have quit! UAL needs replacement! I think that people should know that........ Also, if you're thinking about applying or know of people who are considering doing so, please do this...............ask Yourself first and foremost, Am I "service oriented?" You know deep down if your really are or if your friends are! If you are not - PLEASE DO NOT APPLY!!!! Yes, travel is fun, yes, time off can be an advantage depending, yes the job is flexible; HOWEVER, if you do not posses exceptional people skills, work well as a true "team player", and do not have the desire to do what's best for the customer rather than yourself (LAZY) DO NOT APPLY! I can speak on behalf of myself and my flying partners at United - Don't come just to "TAKE" from what the job has to offer you! After all, it is public relations work and you should certainly have the temperament and skill to "GIVE" to the job! If you're cheerful, work well with others, and have a lot of patience (good motor-skills too) C'MON OVER. We'd love to fly with you!!!
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:47 pm

Well I didnt see this coming. UA must be doing good to start hiring FAs.  bouncy  I think I will apply for an FA position.  spin 
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:44 pm

It's been reported elsewhere that it's rumored UA will increase flying at IAD post BK, both domestic and international.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:13 pm

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 13):
About $14,500.00 a year. Flight attendant typically are guaranteed 70 hours a month. Most airlines prohibit flight attendants from flying more than 100 hours a month (stupid union rules), So don't expect to make more than $21,000

How do people live on that? If you pay $500 a month for an apartment, plus $100 a week for food and other expenses, that does not leave much to keep the lights on. Of course this assumes you can actually find an apartment for $500 a month.

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:52 pm

Quoting Adh214 (Reply 25):
How do people live on that? If you pay $500 a month for an apartment, plus $100 a week for food and other expenses, that does not leave much to keep the lights on. Of course this assumes you can actually find an apartment for $500 a month.

Most young flight attendants live as if they were still in college. Expect multiple roomates if you are single and want to live anywhere near an airport (at least that is how I have heard it from a couple AS FAs I know).

Eventually it gets easier as pay goes up. Getting married and having a spouse that has a stronger income can help too. But if you don't want to go through years of financial hardship, go back to college and earn an engineering degree so you can work on designing planes since that is where the big bucks are since it pays a whole lot more working for a profitable company that designs planes rather than a company that flies them.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:03 am

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 21):
I would apply, but I dont meet the FAA requirements

What are the FAA requirements ?
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:46 am

Too bad only americans can apply. I'd love to work for United as an F/A. Oh well, I guess I'll have to get a work visa at some point and try again later.
 
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:52 am

I agree,
I would love to work with a HUGE airline like United. What a route network they have. A little larger than the small Charter I work for  Smile

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Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:58 am

It's good to see UA hiring again. I wonder what these "new" destinations include?

I couldn't tell you how many UAX F/A's I've met over the last few weeks who were eagerly awaiting this announcement. Good luck
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:09 am

Well, I wouldn't mind getting in with United Airlines. But the first airline that calls me wins, whether it be AirTran, United, or Republic (Chautauqua)
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:42 am

I was thinking about doing this, my only worry is will it cover my bills? Car payment, house payment? How often will I be home? What is the pay scale? How do you chose where you'd be based at?
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:46 am

It's too bad they cannot pay 'living wages'. You would have to consider a 2nd job with flexible hours and availablity to afford to live in the early years. You will also not get the quality of help you want or need at these low wages and in turn get lousy service to the customers, which hurts your business...its a terrible circle.
 
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:47 am

The thing I find truly sad is that I started at United in 1995 at a beginning rate of 19.05 per hour. It is now ten years later and because of the market correction going on in this industry, starting pay is now $17.22 per (flight) hour. Still, with FlyI on the verge of collapse, I am sure United will have no problem lining up a hefty pool of applicants, especially in the Washington, D.C. area. It certainly isn't the job it once was, but nevertheless, best of luck to those who choose to apply. United appears to be well positioned for the future...and new hires will be a welcome addition to the not-always-so-friendly friendly skies.
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Sat Nov 12, 2005 1:49 am

Let's hope some of the laid-off Indy F/As get a chance at some world travel from IAD too. After the roller-coaster they must have been through they deserve a break!  yes 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:32 am

After taxes and including per diem, new UAL flight attendants can expect between $1500 and $2000 a month. Not a lot of money but raises come every year. After five years the hourly rate goes to $29.00/domestic $34.00/international. Also keep in mind that there are additional pay opportunities such as purser pay, understaffing pay, night pay, holiday pay, reserve override (about $200.00 a month extra for anyone who sits reserve). The job isn't what it used to be.... but it's still a great gig.

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 3:56 am

Here it is, UA to hire 2000 flight attendants. LInk to the the story.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051111...p/uscompanyairualjobs_051111182005
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 4:54 am

Quoting Adh214 (Reply 25):

How do people live on that? If you pay $500 a month for an apartment, plus $100 a week for food and other expenses, that does not leave much to keep the lights on. Of course this assumes you can actually find an apartment for $500 a month.

They marry Captains.  Wink Most flight attendants have multiple roommates. You do get pay increases later on, but if anyone on here is going to try and become a career flight attendant in this day and age, you are insane. This is one of the most volatile industries out there. There isn't one major airline out there that hasn't had some major downturn. It wasn't fun working for any airline after 9/11. What about working for CO in 1993 to 1996? US for the past five years? Ditto for UA. NW employees don't exactly have a secure working environment at this place in time and neither do DL flight attendants. What about AA right after 9/11 or in mid 2003? AS after Alaska 261? ValuJet after 592? TWA was a great airline to land (no pun intended) in 1985. Guess where the TWA flight attendants are now? On on an airplane. Wouldn't you have been excited to start flying for Pan Am in 1980? Or what about Eastern in 1975? Most flight attendants agree that it is a nice job to have for a few years, but after a while it is time to move on.

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:11 am

Quoting FA4UA (Reply 4):
you'll never get rich in this job, but if you don't need the money, the lifestyle is amazing!

Very true, nor will you get rich working for anybody but yourself.

Quoting Junction (Reply 8):
Does anyone know if all the new hires will be based at a particular domicile, or will they be spread out?

700 in IAD to start.

Quoting RDYNYC (Reply 22):
One reason that UAL is hiring is because of the MANY flight attendants who have quit! UAL needs replacement! I think that people should know that........

Most importantly to put an end to IndyAir, they are beefing up IAD to finish them once and for all. Very good article posted today, if anybody wants to read it, I will post it. Smile

Quoting Flightopsguy (Reply 24):
It's been reported elsewhere that it's rumored UA will increase flying at IAD post BK, both domestic and international.

Good news for UAL.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:42 am

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 38):
You do get pay increases later on, but if anyone on here is going to try and become a career flight attendant in this day and age, you are insane.

I prefer to think of them as adventurous people with a passion for life. This is the best job on earth, we have so much fun!

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 38):
Most flight attendants agree that it is a nice job to have for a few years, but after a while it is time to move on.

WHAT?!?! Totally untrue. We may say that when we first get hired. But once you start flying it gets in your blood. I would never voluntarily go back to a ground job no matter how much pay I was offered, and neither would a majority of my coworkers.

By the way, if you let the size of your paycheck determine your happiness in life(as so many people do) then that's just sad. Life is what you make it.

Anyway, good luck to anyone who applies. Yeah its hard at first, but so is anything worth doing.  bigthumbsup 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:06 am

Quoting Kevi747 (Reply 40):

I prefer to think of them as adventurous people with a passion for life. This is the best job on earth, we have so much fun!

I'm sure it is a very fun job. Flight attendants do have to the chance to see the world and travel for leisure for next to nothing. But, it can't be fun wondering if your airline is going to exist in a month, a year or a decade.

Quoting Kevi747 (Reply 40):

WHAT?!?! Totally untrue. We may say that when we first get hired. But once you start flying it gets in your blood. I would never voluntarily go back to a ground job no matter how much pay I was offered, and neither would a majority of my coworkers.

First of all, it must be hard to be a parent while being a flight attendant. True, once you amass enough seniority you can fly turns or weekend trips, but what about when your airline faces huge layoffs and you're back on reserve? Or back with long, four and five day trips? And not to offend any flight attendants, but you aren't really helping anyone but yourself. True, there are occasional medical emergencies and evacuations, but the helping others factor comes no where close to that of a nurse, doctor, social worker, physical therapist, etc.

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:03 am

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 41):
But, it can't be fun wondering if your airline is going to exist in a month, a year or a decade.

I don't think most UAL employees have that fear in their minds now.

Besides, you can sit at home and live in fear, or apply with a company that can give you a chance to see Hundreds of cities and all of UAL's Alliances at your finger tips.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:11 am

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 41):
And not to offend any flight attendants, but you aren't really helping anyone but yourself. True, there are occasional medical emergencies and evacuations, but the helping others factor comes no where close to that of a nurse, doctor, social worker, physical therapist, etc.

Did you find it necessary to tell us F/A's that our job is less important then a doctors or social workers? If it makes you feel better to point that out then I'm glad we could help to make you feel better. See there, we do help people.... I can't imagine any other reason for you to have pointed this out since you were the one that brought it up.

Incidentally, our job is no more or no less important than many jobs. We help connect people with people. We help to reunite long lost family members, console grieving family members on the way to a funeral of a loved one, carry a mother and fathers precious children away to college, carry children from one parent to another parents so that they may share custody, transport business men/women to very important business meetings, take families on much needed vacations, evacuate families from areas that are wrecked by natural disasters, transport very sick passengers from remote towns to major cities for care. The list goes on and on and on and this is all stuff we do on a regular basis. So to incinuate, as you have, that our job is not important is ignorant. Next time you're sitting their in your F seat, all comfy, sipping on your glass of wine and eating your meal, thank whatever higher power you believe in that you haven't had to avail yourself of the many skills and attributes that we were hired for.

[Edited 2005-11-12 01:12:56]
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:16 am

Wait a sec. . .

I'm curious about something. I can understand the attraction of flying all over the world practically for free.

But with those salaries, there's not much discretionary income to spend as a curious tourist! You can barely afford staying at a B&B or 2-star hotel.

Unless that's a perk covered by the airline as well?

Please enlighten me if I'm off-base here.

BTW, I am always very courteous to the FAs, I sympathize with their situation. They are near the bottom of the totem pole in the whole airline industry yet they have a very tough gig. As a support analyst in the IT sector, I have to deal with stupid computer users everyday, but I get paid well for it. I couldn't imagine dealing with passengers full of themselves all the time for less than $35/hr. . .  Wink

[Edited 2005-11-12 01:27:10]
 
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:35 pm

Quoting UAORD2000 (Reply 36):
After taxes and including per diem, new UAL flight attendants can expect between $1500 and $2000 a month. Not a lot of money but raises come every year. After five years the hourly rate goes to $29.00/domestic $34.00/international. Also keep in mind that there are additional pay opportunities such as purser pay, understaffing pay, night pay, holiday pay, reserve override (about $200.00 a month extra for anyone who sits reserve). The job isn't what it used to be.... but it's still a great gig.

-J in Chicago

1500-2000 a month is enough for me! i live at home with my folks and grandparents! i dont have a lot of bills! im very customer service friendly(even though i work for tsa i have a very nice attitude lol)

united is really trying to get the word out! it was in the suntimes business section about the hiring of f/a's! im going to apply!! im 22! this could be good for me! ill apply and see what happens! BUT, i read training is 7 weeks! good lord! and im assume its not paid traning either!?

lots to consider!!
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:43 pm

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 41):
But, it can't be fun wondering if your airline is going to exist in a month, a year or a decade.

You could say that about any company. Why would someone torture themselves like that?

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 41):
First of all, it must be hard to be a parent while being a flight attendant.

Not everyone was meant to have kids, I sure as hell don't want any.  Wink This job certainly isn't for everyone, or most people even, but for those of us who do it, it's great.

Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 44):
But with those salaries, there's not much discretionary income to spend as a curious tourist! You can barely afford staying at a B&B or 2-star hotel.

I live very cheaply and make $50,000 a year. I spend all of my disposible income enjoying myself.

Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 44):
Unless that's a perk covered by the airline as well?

Please enlighten me if I'm off-base here.

You do get discounts at most hotels/resorts/cruise lines with an airline ID.
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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:49 pm

Quoting UAcosCS (Reply 42):
I don't think most UAL employees have that fear in their minds now.

But will they in a year? Five years? Ten years? There is a lot instability in the airline industry.

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 43):
Did you find it necessary to tell us F/A's that our job is less important then a doctors or social workers? If it makes you feel better to point that out then I'm glad we could help to make you feel better. See there, we do help people.... I can't imagine any other reason for you to have pointed this out since you were the one that brought it up.

Some people like a career in which they do good for society. Believe it or not, most doctors do like to help people. It may not be the only reason they become doctors, but it is a major factor. Ditto with nurses. That is probably the sole reason social workers become social workers. Few, if any, doctor or nurse recruitment sites fail to mention the "helping others" element. There is one flight attendant recruitment website that does so and it is buried in between "Free airline travel," and "Exciting layovers."

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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:56 pm

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 47):
Some people like a career in which they do good for society. Believe it or not, most doctors do like to help people. It may not be the only reason they become doctors, but it is a major factor. Ditto with nurses. That is probably the sole reason social workers become social workers. Few, if any, doctor or nurse recruitment sites fail to mention the "helping others" element. There is one flight attendant recruitment website that does so and it is buried in between "Free airline travel," and "Exciting layovers

Oh brother, I'm debating this with someone that is between 13-15 years old? Forget it, conversation over. Get some life experience and come back in 10-20 years and we'll continue this discussion. I should have checked out your profile before I suggested it was possible to sit in your First Class seat with a glass of wine debating anything other than what video game you want to play next.

For the record though, I am not debating about what Doctors, Nurses or Therapists of any kind do or don't do. This post is about United Airlines F/A's. For reference, here are some websites that list the things we do to "help" people as they travel (please note that not one says one only have a desire to enjoy free travel and fun, exotic layovers. Some list the opportunity to travel as a benefit and nothing more.):

http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,51395,00.html
http://alaskaairlines.recruitmax.com...&szSearchWords=&szReturnToSearch=1
http://www.continental.com/company/career/flightattendant.asp
http://www.southwest.com/careers/flight_attendant.html#description





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RE: United Is Hiring Flight Attendants.

Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:27 pm

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 14):
If NW has it's way with us, I wouldn't expect to make more than 9,000 a year.

This will happen..??? You going to let this happen???? Why stay??

Quoting Gman3 (Reply 15):
1600-2000 a month after taxes

Cant afford a home for that... Silly thing to consider

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 13):
About $14,500.00 a year.

Make more almost anywhere..!!!

Quoting Uaord2000 (Reply 16):
Who really works for an airline because the money is great?

Back in the day.. An airline career was worth it.. Now you fly for free and you have no money once you get there... Wake up!

Quoting Gman3 (Reply 20):
We get meals. All international trips provide us with crew meals. Domestically, depending on certain criteria, a meal is provided as well.

Good thing because you are broke!!!!

Quoting Jamake1 (Reply 34):
The thing I find truly sad is that I started at United in 1995 at a beginning rate of 19.05 per hour. It is now ten years later and because of the market correction going on in this industry, starting pay is now $17.22 per (flight) hour.

Do the math with inflation... Airline work is one sorry move these days...

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 41):
I'm sure it is a very fun job. Flight attendants do have to the chance to see the world and travel for leisure for next to nothing.

But have no money once they get there... Not much of a benefit if you ask me... Wake up...

Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 44):
But with those salaries, there's not much discretionary income to spend as a curious tourist! You can barely afford staying at a B&B or 2-star hotel.

You hope UA feeds you before you layover... Otherwise you will have no problem meeting the weight standards.. (if there are any these days).. no money.. no fun.. forget it...

Quoting Tsaord (Reply 45):
1500-2000 a month is enough for me! I live at home with my folks and grandparents!

For someone like you this will work... Sorry state of affairs if you ask me..
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