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8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:49 am

Does anyone know what the deal is with the 8000s flight numbers for United Mainline flights? At first i thought it was PS service, but i heard them in ORD no PS service to ORD i think. Anyone?
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:52 am

For one reason or another they are assigned different call signs. UA142 might be 'United 8142' in the air... possibly because some UA flights are different aircraft. For instance UA 922 is ORD-IAD-LHR, but ORD-IAD is an A319 and IAD-LHR is a 777 or 763. If the A319 is delayed and the 767 takes off, all of a sudden you have 2 flights with the same callsign in IAD's airspace. So one of them is changed. Thats the way i understand it at least. To prevent things like that from happening with 'change of gauge' flights which UA has a lot of.

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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:56 am

They are the domestic leg of a flight that continues internationally, or vice-versa. The aircraft may be different but the flight is called the same number.

I do not understand the reason for this practice. US Airways does it with flights going into PHL. USA 2 from FLL to PHL and then USA 2 from PHL to FCO. Different airplanes, different pax, different gates. Additionally, every time the first flight is delayed, the international one gets a letter tacked onto its callsign, such as USAir Two Papa Heavy.

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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:56 am

For most any airline, 8000 or 9000 flight numbers are charter, ferry or repositining flights.
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:59 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
For most any airline, 8000 or 9000 flight numbers are charter, ferry or repositining flights.

I flew a Delta flight to MSY for Mardi Gras once on a 9000 series flight number since it was additional capacity just for the final weekend.
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:05 pm

GoBoeing is pretty right there...the 8000 series are normally the domestic leg of an intl flight...either inbound or outbound from the gateway...and normally different equipment from the intl leg. Other carriers will add a A or a P or a letter to the flight number. Different carriers different procedures but it is to keep from having two aircraft airborn at the same gateway with the same radio callsign.
 
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:11 pm

I have frequently been assigned 8 in front of our regular flight number out of ORD due to other aircraft in the air with the same active flight number. I talked to a pilot and he said this was the reason for the added number. Always funny to see the F/A's try to get it right when working with CH 9 during their flight operations.

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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:28 pm

In most cases the 8000 series of flight numbers are LH code-share flights!!!
The rest are charters, unscheduled flights, etc...

However most are codeshare flights!!!
 
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 12:43 pm

Or tack on 'Delta' for delay flight.
Or tack on 'November' for next.
 
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:08 pm

Here is some insight into United's flight numbering system.

0001-1299 UA Mainline
1300-1399 Test Flights
1400-1699 UA Mainline
1700-5199 Codeshare
5200-8099 United Express Passenger Flying
8100-8299 Radio Flight Numbers
8300-9770 Codeshare
9785-9814 Passenger Extra Section
9815-9824 Cargo Extra Section
9842-9866 Military Contract - Passenger
9867-9872 Military Contract - Cargo
9873-9877 Civil Air Movement - Passenger
9878-9882 Civil Air Movement - Cargo
9883-9907 Passenger Charters
9780-9782 Unpaid Publicity Flights
9783-9784 Unpaid Courtesy Flights
9825-9834 Test Flights
9835-9836 Familiarization/Demonstration
9997-9999 Scheduled Freighter in Passenger Equipment
9908-9923 Maintenance Ferry
9924-9927 Maintenance Ferry
9928-9967 Operational Positioning Flight
9968-9987 Paid Charter Positioning Flight
9993-9996 Scheduled Positioning
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:27 pm

I know on December 4th there is a Delta flight 9700 from ATL to IND. Instead of the typical MD-80 its a 757. Anyone know why?
 
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Sat Nov 12, 2005 2:55 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
For most any airline, 8000 or 9000 flight numbers are charter, ferry or repositining flights.

But not UA.

Quoting OOer (Reply 7):
In most cases the 8000 series of flight numbers are LH code-share flights!!!
The rest are charters, unscheduled flights, etc...

However most are codeshare flights!!!

Ignore all of that.
 
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:47 am

i recently flew UA839 Jfk-Syd and the first leg from Jfk-Lax was with the callsign UA 8122, was due to the flight operating 2 split sectors the captain said. So to avoid confusion for controllers our 1st leg was given the 4 digit flight number.
 
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:58 am

Quoting TWA902fly (Reply 1):
For one reason or another they are assigned different call signs. UA142 might be 'United 8142' in the air... possibly because some UA flights are different aircraft. For instance UA 922 is ORD-IAD-LHR, but ORD-IAD is an A319 and IAD-LHR is a 777 or 763. If the A319 is delayed and the 767 takes off,

What????? I don't think so.

Quoting GoBoeing (Reply 2):
They are the domestic leg of a flight that continues internationally, or vice-versa. The aircraft may be different but the flight is called the same number.

Possibly, but i think the following is a more accurate explanation.

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 4):
flew a Delta flight to MSY for Mardi Gras once on a 9000 series flight number since it was additional capacity just for the final weekend.

They are called "extra sections", which are extra flights added during times of peak demand.
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:13 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 9):
Here is some insight into United's flight numbering system.

0001-1299 UA Mainline
1300-1399 Test Flights
1400-1699 UA Mainline
1700-5199 Codeshare
5200-8099 United Express Passenger Flying
8100-8299 Radio Flight Numbers
8300-9770 Codeshare
9785-9814 Passenger Extra Section

There you go.
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RE: 8000 Flight Number UAL Mainline Flights

Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:45 pm

Quoting OOer (Reply 7):
In most cases the 8000 series of flight numbers are LH code-share flights!!!
The rest are charters, unscheduled flights, etc...

However most are codeshare flights!!!

Why would a Lufthansa flight used a United call sign? Code share numbers
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