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EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:19 pm

Last Thursday easyJet celebrated it's 10th Anniversary. EZY's maiden flight took of from London Luton Airport on November 10th, 1995. easyJet has placed the biggest order for 1 type of Airbus ever seen in history. Is easyJet planning to keep on flying a mixed fleet of Boeings and Airbusses or will they head for a full Airbus fleet?


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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:46 pm

Quoting Boeing777/747 (Thread starter):
Is easyJet planning to keep on flying a mixed fleet of Boeings and Airbusses or will they head for a full Airbus fleet?

Easyjet is moving to an all airbus fleet.
 
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:54 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
Easyjet is moving to an all airbus fleet.

Mixed fleet of 737-700s and A319s. The 737-300s are being retired however
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:58 pm

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 2):
Mixed fleet of 737-700s and A319s. The 737-300s are being retired however

i knew the B733s were being retired first but wern't the B737-700s being retired afterwards? In till then some routes could be operated by both aircraft, depending on customers etc?
 
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:00 pm

IIRC They have annouced that they will be getting rid of the 737s and should only have 3 in their fleet by the end of next year.

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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:17 pm

According to their website there will still be plenty of 737's in their fleet until 2007, but with the A319 being the main type. http://www.easyjet.com/EN/About/Information/infopack_fleetinfo.html

Year - A319 ---- 737---- Total
2003 --- 1 ---- 73 ---- 74
2004 --- 21 ---- 71 ---- 92
2005 --- 55 ---- 53 ---- 108
2006 --- 86 ---- 35 ---- 121
2007 -- 115 ---- 32 ---- 147

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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:20 pm

Personally I see a future for both aircraft which fit excellent in their concept.
In my eyes it would be a mistake to move to an all airbus fleet and they have a lot of 737 so why get rid of them?
 
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:03 pm

Quoting Boeing777/747 (Thread starter):
easyJet has placed the biggest order for 1 type of Airbus ever seen in history.

Really? I thought jetBlue are the record holder with their 160(?) A320s...

Or do you mean biggest number of airplanes ordered at one go? If so, you are right, EZY ordered 120 at one go, while B6 has ordered theirs in bulk (I think...)

To me it seems that having two different aircraft types is not that much of a drawback, I think the "fleet commonality" concept only applies if you have a small fleet of aircraft. EZY has around 40 x 73Gs - that's not a small fleet to me... EZY is also very profitable despite having a mixed fleet...
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 9:08 pm

I hope they will keep both. I really like the 737-700.
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:01 pm

The 32 737s they will have flying in 2007 will be the 737-73Vs, with all the 737-300s having gone by that point.
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:03 am

Quoting Boeing777/747 (Thread starter):
Last Thursday easyJet celebrated it's 10th Anniversary. EZY's maiden flight took of from London Luton Airport on November 10th, 1995

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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:06 am

Hmm, thats fair number of 737s to retire in one go. Why don't they like the 737?

So does the Swiss easyjet fly the 319s exclusively and the British U2 flies both?
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:17 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 11):
So does the Swiss easyjet fly the 319s exclusively and the British U2 flies both?

That's exacly the case, they've got 8 A319, from HP-IZF to HP-IZM
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:52 am

Well they retrofit their 73G's with winglets?
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:11 am

I believe they have options to change some of their A319 options into A320's/A321's.

This is what I heard just after they placed their first order for A319's

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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:19 am

Quoting Boeing777/747 (Thread starter):
Last Thursday easyJet celebrated it's 10th Anniversary.

And they were so kind to give all passengers an orange-chocolate bar. So I can say I had frills on an EZY flight  Wink

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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:30 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 5):
According to their website there will still be plenty of 737's in their fleet until 2007, but with the A319 being the main type. http://www.easyjet.com/EN/About/Information/infopack_fleetinfo.html

Year - A319 ---- 737---- Total
2003 --- 1 ---- 73 ---- 74
2004 --- 21 ---- 71 ---- 92
2005 --- 55 ---- 53 ---- 108
2006 --- 86 ---- 35 ---- 121
2007 -- 115 ---- 32 ---- 147

That ties in quite well with what you'd expect.

They currently have 32 737-700s, the first of which was delivered in October 2000. Leases on new aircraft are usually signed for 7 or 10 years, so the earliest easyJet could be expected to start retiring the bulk of the 73G fleet would be from late 2007.

The final decision will probably be made in early 2007 based on the market at the time. The A319s will continue rolling in; if the company is growing very strongly the new A319s arriving from late 2007 will be used for growth and the 73Gs will be retained for a few more years. If the arriving A319s would provide more capacity than easyJet thinks they would need then the 73G leases will not be extended and the arriving A319s will allow the company to transition to an all-Airbus fleet.

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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:34 am

Aren't EZS due to get a 9th aircraft this winter as new Geneva routes open?

Its only the B737-300's that are going, in fact the B737-700's are relatively new. I believe the last one was delivered last year!
 
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbu

Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:42 am

The plan is to get rid of all Boeing eventually. The last airport to get rid of them will be LTN. If I am not in wrong there is just one Boeing left at STN (my base) and some bases that didn't have Airbus are starting to slowly get them. Any new bases (such as MXP) will have Airbus only.
All European bases are Airbus only and crew there is only Airbus trained (they are actually dual trained but never did their familiarization flights on Boeing, so after six months they are not allowed to operate Boeing).
I just heard today that soon all recurrent training (you are suppose to do refresher every ten months) are going to be Airbus only.
Speaking from crew side I now that 99,99% of crew prefer to work on Airbus as it is much more crew friendly (wider aisles, FAP, doors...).

It is just rumor going around at LGW that EZY will get some A330 to do longhaul but I personally find hard to believe it. Also some rumors were that new deliveries will have 25 instead of 26 rows so they can get rid of one crew member.... but until I see it, I don't believe it.

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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:43 am

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 14):
I believe they have options to change some of their A319 options into A320's/A321's.

This is what I heard just after they placed their first order for A319's

you heard wrong. They work like WN and standardise on aircraft size. Larger aircraft would need larger cabin crews.

Their plan is to eliminate all the 737-700 aircraft as and when their leases expire. EZY does an aircraft trading system where new frames are sold to lessors on delivery, then operated under lease by Easyjet. Those leases will obviously have an endpoint, and will not be as long as some comparable leases with legacy carriers to maximise secondary lease value to the lessor.

The trading system makes EZY money as they sell for more than they pay at the Boeing and Airbus factory gate due to discounting. FR does something similar with their 738 deliveries.
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:55 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 11):
Hmm, thats fair number of 737s to retire in one go. Why don't they like the 737?

Airbus gave EZY a deal to good to resist when EZY were hunting for either A319s or B737-700s
 
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbus?

Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:52 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 19):
you heard wrong. They work like WN and standardise on aircraft size. Larger aircraft would need larger cabin crews

Actually what he is right, they do have the option to change the A319 orders into A320's/A321's, whether they do or not is up to them, and like you said, it isn't likely.
 
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RE: EZY 10 Years! Mixed Fleet Or Changing To Airbu

Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:39 am

Quoting Planesarecool (Reply 21):
Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 19):
you heard wrong. They work like WN and standardise on aircraft size. Larger aircraft would need larger cabin crews

Actually what he is right, they do have the option to change the A319 orders into A320's/A321's, whether they do or not is up to them, and like you said, it isn't likely.

And besides on A320 you need same number of crew as on A319, that is 4. With four crew you can have 200 seats.

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