thegooddoctor
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TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:28 pm

Speaking of unfortunate experiences with TSA...

Last summer I went through Security at LGA. There was no traffic at the FC security line, and I rushed to empty my pockets, remove my shoes, etc. After going through the metal detector I realized my phone was still in my pocket. I have a bad habit of forgetting my phone and have set off more than a couple metal detectors. Realizing that the metal detectors had not gone off, I told the TSA agent who was standing on the other side. He looked at me a little funny, then tested the metal detector I had just passed through. When nothing happened, he looked up at the top and flipped the power switch on... I was concerned that I had just become "that guy" who caused the terminal to be evacuated and rescreened, delaying a hundred flights, etc. However, I was horrified when he just told me to proceed to my gate.

I have no idea if they normally turn the detectors on/off during the day, but it concerned me that at least for some period of time people had been entering a high profile airport through a metal detector that wasn't on. The worst case senario was that this had been occuring all day (it was mid afternoon at this point).

Although it made me happy not to be delayed because of a rescreening process, and knowing that the chance of the event being intentional or people with the intention of commiting a terrorist act on my flight was small, the fact that I knew I could be getting on a plane with unscreened people did make me think twice.
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:34 pm

Ahhh, my favorite subject . . . the losers that are the TSA. The Morons that are our protectors. The idiots that can't identify a Clarinet . . . (that one's personal).

So, not that thiks escapade is behind you, have you written anyone? Did you alert the TSA? Did you do anything except post here?

You need to write your Congressperson, your Senator, your State Legislators, the Airport Police, the TSA, the President, the Secretary of Homeland Security. Every Damn body. Oh, don't be foolish enough to put your name on the letter - but be sure to state the reason your NOT revealing your name - you don't want ramifications later . . . .

But make it public - put it in the paper . . . if you simply tell A-Net . . . what's the use. You get an anonymous user like me - that despises the TSA with every breath I take - providing sympathy and that's the end of it . . .

How about it TSA morons . . . anyone want to respond to this?


I asked this question in another thread and got no answer?


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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 1:54 pm

I think that TSA is a bunch of idiots. You, gooddoctor, are an idiot, too.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with security discrepancies to the world. It's not like any Muslim extremist in the Biqa' Valley has access to the internet and airliners.net.

So, please....go on, tell us how easy it is to infiltrate the sterile side of an airport. You moron. You're no smarter than the TSA.

You need to do what ANCFlyer said....write to the DHS. Write to your Congressman. But don't put it on the internet.
 
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:32 pm

I do have to say that the TSA is far better than the outsourced people working the airports before. They couldn't speak english, didn't give a darn about their job, etc. That is how however many hijackers made it on board planes. Now I am not saying that the TSA is great, or really good for that matter, but I do believe that it is an improvement from what there was before. Even though they may be a pain at times, slow at times, and appear to be "idiots" at times, at least they are doing their job. I have never had an experience like this at any airport I've gone through. All airports I've gone through, the TSA has been professional and appeared competent.
 
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:36 pm

speaking of Cell Phones at LGA. My flight was the last flight of the night out of LGA...so I ran to the WHSmith, the only WHSmith open was outside of security. So I had to go back through, but nobody was in line since my flight was about to board. The mechine went off I realized I had my phone in my pocket...they didn't mind...accidents happen, they let me put my phone on the belt and head back. It would be interesting to see what would happen if i had all my bags with me, but I guess since they figured I had gone through already and only had the WHSmith bag (WHSmith is right outside of securty at concourse A) they didnt have to give me extra screening.

In 18 years of my life, still the only time i've ever set off the detector!
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:39 pm

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 2):

How is what Thedoc said a threat to security? He's exposing a TSA screw-up, hopefully now said screw-up will be fixed pending a letter to the TSA, thereby eliminating the possibility for said screw-ups and security breaches in the future.

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 3):
I do have to say that the TSA is far better than the outsourced people working the airports before. They couldn't speak english, didn't give a darn about their job, etc.

You do know that the government hired back all the old privatized security guards to run the checkpoints, right?
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:44 pm

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 2):
I think that TSA is a bunch of idiots. You, gooddoctor, are an idiot, too.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with security discrepancies to the world. It's not like any Muslim extremist in the Biqa' Valley has access to the internet and airliners.net.

So, please....go on, tell us how easy it is to infiltrate the sterile side of an airport. You moron. You're no smarter than the TSA.

You need to do what ANCFlyer said....write to the DHS. Write to your Congressman. But don't put it on the internet.

Now lets get one thing straight here buddy. If it is really that easy to infiltrate the sterile side of an airport and the TSA guy did NOTHING about it, who is the bigger idiot? The TSA guy, or the guy who writes about it afterward, and probably will try his best to make sure that it never happens again. Who cares who has internet access. I doubt anyone learned anything new today ( the TSA does not appear to give a $hit, in case you need it spelled out for you). If I were you I would climb off your High horse and write a letter to someone about it too. Don't just sit there and complain that someone had an experience and wrote about it. Get a life man. ( By the way I would not be making religious Intolerant statements. It is bad form and shows you have no class. It is this sort of attitude that gives the rest of your country a bad reputation.) here's YOUR sign.

And Now I have gone and done what I most hate people doing on this board.

  

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:44 pm

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:46 pm

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 5):
You do know that the government hired back all the old privatized security guards to run the checkpoints, right?

I believe that your statement is untrue. They did not hire back ALL of the old employees. They also provided training that they probably had not had before. I don't think any of us know the exact inner workings of the TSA, unless someone happens to work for them. There are still holes, but I just thought I'd point out that there have been some improvements made.
 
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:47 pm

That was great! lol. I bet they can find anything with that big magnifying glass!

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:59 pm

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 2):
I think that TSA is a bunch of idiots. You, gooddoctor, are an idiot, too.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with security discrepancies to the world. It's not like any Muslim extremist in the Biqa' Valley has access to the internet and airliners.net.

Hmm. I think the only response I will give to this is to state that I have told two TSA officials at different stations (one was a supervisor at my home airport - PHX). Therefore I'm not trying to use the forum as a substitute for appropriate channels of reporting. It is merely an interesting story. As far as telling terrorists about a metal detector that was off a year ago, I'm not sure there is a lot they can use there...

Finally, the issue at hand was the attitude of the TSA agent(s) at LGA that I alerted to the problem. There was no concern that 1) the metal detector may have been turned off intentionally to let someone through and 2) the passengers should be rescreened (in the event that it was just an oversight).
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:09 pm

My friends, any serious terrorist cell knows far more about TSA security and screening than anyone on this board. I doubt that a member of the general public can tell them anything they don't know.

My two cents are done.
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:13 pm

Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
you don't want ramifications later . . . .

= That's sad. Where are we ... Soviet Union?

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 3):
They couldn't speak english,

= So much hate. So now if something terrible happens, what would be the excuse ... I don't know ... if speaking English is correlated to your abilities as a screener. Geez, those damn Israelis managed to pull that off then pretty well  Wink ...

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:20 pm

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 3):
I do have to say that the TSA is far better than the outsourced people working the airports before. They couldn't speak english, didn't give a darn about their job, etc.

Well, now they speak english and don't KNOW their jobs . . . . lose/lose.

Quoting Flypdx (Reply 3):
All airports I've gone through, the TSA has been professional and appeared competent.

You need to get out more.

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 14):
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 1):
you don't want ramifications later . . . .

= That's sad. Where are we ... Soviet Union?

Nope. Not even close . . .

Not even close . . . . the TSA, as f(*#edup as they are, have never summarily executed anyone . . .
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:36 pm

I do have to say that except in rare instances, I've thought the TSA screeners were also professional and alert.
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:11 pm

The one in CVG was especially alert...the one with down's syndrome in diapers wearing the "Jesus Saves" keychain laynard.
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 5:30 pm

In hindsight, I overreacted A LITTLE. I apologize to gooddoctor for calling you a moron and an idiot. It wasn't necessary or professional.

I still don't think anybody should post info like that on the internet, no matter how obsolete or trivial they think the information is. What you think is "not a big deal" could be a huge bit of intelligence to the wrong person. Especially at a port like LGA.

"Muslim extremist" is not an insensitive term, any more than "Catholic extremist". Turn off your CNN and pick up Robert Baer's latest release.

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 7:26 pm

Loisencroach

 rotfl 

What a complete assclown!

Do you honestly, honestly think that terrorists are reading A.net for tips on how to beat TSA? You think they're sitting here going, "Wow! I had no idea that they left the metal detectors off for five minutes once! Now we can attack!", having never scoped out an airport or sent people through the whole process?

Get real! Jebus! They have one chance in their miserable existences to kill us (since, alas, they tend to be suicide attackers) — they're going to be a lot more prepared than a friggin' forum post will let them be!

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:55 pm

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 18):
In hindsight, I overreacted A LITTLE. I apologize to gooddoctor for calling you a moron and an idiot. It wasn't necessary or professional.

Apology accepted.

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 18):
I still don't think anybody should post info like that on the internet, no matter how obsolete or trivial they think the information is. What you think is "not a big deal" could be a huge bit of intelligence to the wrong person. Especially at a port like LGA.

True, but as has been stated, those who are perpetrating acts of terrorism (at least those that occured 9/11) had very sophisticated knowledge about Aviation as well as airport security. Information of the sort contained in my anecdote could be found by reading any of the news stories that have been published globally about similar incidents (the newsworthy event being, of course, the massive delays that were caused in rescreening pax).
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:58 pm

Many of the TSA employees came from Border Patrol. The pay is much better and they no longer get shot at. Of course...we have now left our borders wide open and this is where our government is saying now that terrorists will enter the country, instead of international airports.

Since staffing the areas of lower terror risk (airports) with agents who previously worked in areas of higher terror risk (the border), it has become painully clear the the government has everything under control.  Yeah sure
 
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:16 pm

Quoting Symphonik (Reply 19):

I don't think you know anything about Civil Aviation Security. I think the majority of your time is spent switching between KSJO and some techno station while stuck on 280. The reason I know this is because you used the word "assclown". Who says that anymore?

One more thing to point out. I read the initial thread too fast to see that the incident took place last summer, so, again I apologize for overreacting, gooddoctor. Part of my job is to look around the airport and keep an eye out for unattended baggage and suspicious activity. That, coupled with the fact that I am reading some pretty heavy sh*t in my Aviation Security class has made me somewhat of a paranoid. But I'm not going to be complacent and "get over it".

But, I still think people should report TSA discrepancies through the appropriate channels, because, YES, I do believe that people in terrorist organizations read A-net. Assclown.

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Mon Nov 14, 2005 2:51 am

This sort of stuff dates back to when these screeners were employees of contracted companies (A good number of the TSA screeners previously worked for the contractors that previously handled the security screening process). I was flying out of BOS a little more than 5 years ago. I had gone through the security to get onto DL's concourse at the time to check in for my flight (I was on a non-rev daytrip, so no bags to check in). When I went through the detector, I set it off (belt buckle). I go to check in and then go to the nearest newsstand to get a magazine (which was just outside of the security checkpoint for that terminal). I go back through the same metal detector I had gone through maybe 15 minutes earlier and didn't have it go off (I hadn't taken my belt off either). At the time, I didn't think much about it. Now on and after 9/11/01, that incident reflected in my mind greatly.
 
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:01 am

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 22):
I don't think you know anything about Civil Aviation Security. I think the majority of your time is spent switching between KSJO and some techno station while stuck on 280. The reason I know this is because you used the word "assclown". Who says that anymore?

Wow. That is a stretch of logic there. Deducing my level of knowledge from a word in a post... you've got nothing, do you? I think my term for you was pretty apropos.

I stand by my original stance, which is that you must not know anything about civil aviation security (none of that needs to be capitalized). This post would not provide any terrorist organization with any information beyond what they already know or can learn through passive observation at an airport. That is where we need your sharp eyes, Loisencroach, not in all these bits and bytes!

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:38 am

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 16):
In hindsight, I overreacted A LITTLE. I apologize to gooddoctor for calling you a moron and an idiot. It wasn't necessary or professional.

I also must apologise. I over reacted as well. I am not sure about the domestic issues that you refer to however.
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:30 am

Hope you all don't mind if I take liberties here. The title of this thread  mischievous  reminded me of a story an acquaintence relayed to me recently.

He's employed by TSA at LAX, working T-5. And, to put it kindly, TSA does attract quite a menagerie of folks. Anyway, he's inside the TSA office preparing for his shift. There are other screeners and admin staff there as well busily performing various duties.

Suddenly, the clatter of keyboards and the cellphone chatter come to an abrupt halt. Seems a 'co-worker' walked in to the office a bit in a rush to avoid being late. Just so happens she was wearing a see through top which displayed a pair of DD's.

Talk about TSA and poor screening!  Smile
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:04 pm

Quoting Thegooddoctor (Reply 18):
those who are perpetrating acts of terrorism (at least those that occured 9/11) had very sophisticated knowledge about Aviation as well as airport security

= Curious. What sort of "very sophisticated knowledge" did they really possess?

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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:09 pm

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 25):
Curious. What sort of "very sophisticated knowledge" did they really possess?

-A.

Well, for starters, they had some pretty specific knowledge about the 757 and 767, including familiarity with the avionics as well as the knowledge necessary to fly a commercial airplane into a building with relative precision.

Secondly, they understood some simple, but important, nuances of airport security proceedures at the time.

I think the most important was the first statment. Most A.nutters would probably take a statment like "very sophisticated knowledge" for granted since the majority of us can sit down in a cockpit and identify (and probably operate) everything you find in the cockpit of a modern airliner.
Though many average people may be able to tell you what a transponder or flight management computer is, I'm willing to bet that 99% of them would not know what it looks like or how to operate it. Watch video footage of the south tower being struck - the 767 approaches at an angle and with a speed of 512 kts. To hit something that's only 200 feet wide at under 1000 feet with an airplane travelling at almost 600 miles an hour would probably take some experience. I'd agree with one of the professional pilots who wrote a commentary the night after the strike - these are manuevers which take both knowledge and training in the handling of a large jet. Turns out they did recieve large jet training, including simulator time.

I'd say there is also a fair comparison by analogy. I work in healthcare and I take it for granted that when I talk about a patient with an infection having a low SVO2 and a lactic acid of 8, everyone in the room understands that the patient is most likely septic. I can draw an arterial blood gas to find these to values. The knowledge of physiology and biochemistry necessary to understand the correlation is very simple. Drawing and running a blood gas IS very simple. To everyone in medicine it's simple. To most people, however, it's sophisticated knowledge - because most people do not make critical care their hobby  Wink Aviation is unique because guys like me take an interest in it and learn a lot of things that might be considered "sophisticated" or professional knowledge along the way.
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Tue Nov 15, 2005 1:30 am

Quoting Thegooddoctor (Reply 26):
Well, for starters, they had some pretty specific knowledge about the 757 and 767, including familiarity with the avionics as well as the knowledge necessary to fly a commercial airplane into a building with relative precision.

Secondly, they understood some simple, but important, nuances of airport security proceedures at the time.

I think the most important was the first statment. Most A.nutters would probably take a statment like "very sophisticated knowledge" for granted since the majority of us can sit down in a cockpit and identify (and probably operate) everything you find in the cockpit of a modern airliner.
Though many average people may be able to tell you what a transponder or flight management computer is, I'm willing to bet that 99% of them would not know what it looks like or how to operate it. Watch video footage of the south tower being struck - the 767 approaches at an angle and with a speed of 512 kts. To hit something that's only 200 feet wide at under 1000 feet with an airplane travelling at almost 600 miles an hour would probably take some experience. I'd agree with one of the professional pilots who wrote a commentary the night after the strike - these are manuevers which take both knowledge and training in the handling of a large jet. Turns out they did recieve large jet training, including simulator time.

I'd say there is also a fair comparison by analogy. I work in healthcare and I take it for granted that when I talk about a patient with an infection having a low SVO2 and a lactic acid of 8, everyone in the room understands that the patient is most likely septic. I can draw an arterial blood gas to find these to values. The knowledge of physiology and biochemistry necessary to understand the correlation is very simple. Drawing and running a blood gas IS very simple. To everyone in medicine it's simple. To most people, however, it's sophisticated knowledge - because most people do not make critical care their hobby Aviation is unique because guys like me take an interest in it and learn a lot of things that might be considered "sophisticated" or professional knowledge along the way.

= I agree that they required training. But this is something anyone can get going to an aviation school and observing airport security. I guess I was more drawn to the sensationalist comments by LOISENCROACH that state no one should post "info like that" (see below). I did not think your info would be anything that cannot be found in most places.

Quoting Thegooddoctor (Reply 18):
Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 18):
I still don't think anybody should post info like that on the internet, no matter how obsolete or trivial they think the information is. What you think is "not a big deal" could be a huge bit of intelligence to the wrong person. Especially at a port like LGA.

True, but as has been stated, those who are perpetrating acts of terrorism (at least those that occured 9/11) had very sophisticated knowledge about Aviation as well as airport security. Information of the sort contained in my anecdote could be found by reading any of the news stories that have been published globally about similar incidents (the newsworthy event being, of course, the massive delays that were caused in rescreening pax).
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:13 pm

Quoting Abrelosojos (Reply 27):
= I agree that they required training. But this is something anyone can get going to an aviation school and observing airport security. I guess I was more drawn to the sensationalist comments by LOISENCROACH that state no one should post "info like that" (see below). I did not think your info would be anything that cannot be found in most places.

Agreed! However, I don't the two things I said were mutually exclusive. The fact that they could find the information easily does not necessarily mean it isn't sophisticated, detailed, or "professional grade" knowledge. The analogy I used regarding medicine stands up the same way - anyone with a library card has access to that information, very few actually go out and find/use it.
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RE: TSA And Poor Screening

Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:37 pm

Quoting Loisencroach (Reply 2):
I think that TSA is a bunch of idiots. You, gooddoctor, are an idiot, too.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with security discrepancies to the world. It's not like any Muslim extremist in the Biqa' Valley has access to the internet and airliners.net.

So, please....go on, tell us how easy it is to infiltrate the sterile side of an airport. You moron. You're no smarter than the TSA.

This is just the kind of stupid thinking that gets us the TSA. Do you really think that terrorists now have the KEY to TSA screening becasue the gooddoctor put his complaint up?. Don't be a fool The bad guys are very adept at taking as many trips as possible to learn the ins and outs strengths and weaknesses of the screening. Simply making a complaint is NOT going to lead terrorist to jump at that one hole becasue they don't have to there are hundreds of holes.

I agree that TSA screening is a joke. I think the screening is uneffective and unnessasarily long. I think the TSA security procedures were designed by beuracrats who didn't want to have lawsuits on thier hands so they created a toothless slinking petty agency instead of the effecive tiger we wanted.

How toimprove security and speed up screening.

1) ban carry-on bags. The largest bag a person should be able to carry on the plane is a breifcase or computer bag. All garment bags, rollerboards, dufflebags, and backbacks that are not bookbags, should be checked.

This will not happen because TSA doesn't enforce any FAA regulations even though they are right at the front lines to do so. Additionally, they don't want to piss off the travelling public, they want the airlines to make those rules so that people get mad at the airlines not them.

2) Screen real threats. We have 40 years of history with terrorists. We know who gets involved, who doesn't. Stop screening 80 year old grandmas and Military personel in uniform, and "Randomly" searching small children and start looking for people who are suspicious. Fact is, is that TSA is so scared of an ACLU lawsuit they would rather compromise security an hide behind thier technology and their regulatioins rather than do real security work.

3) hire REAL people who want to do the job. TSA has become the place were anyone who signs up can collect a paycheck. TSA Ought to hire ex-military, retired cops, or cops who have been hurt on the job and can no longer work the beat. They ought to hire criminal justive majors as they are going through school and offer tuition incentives to CJ majors to get as many as they can. TSA ought to get considered an entry level law enforcement position. Right now it is just entry level.

I have more but I have to go to work stay tuned for more.
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