fbm3rd
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ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:20 am

I can see a plane landing as well as what looks like an air tran about to land that is over hte parking lot... are'nt these landings kinda close together or am i dead wrong??? maybe these pics were taken on different days b/c the grass looks green in one and brown in the other.. is that what happen here or again, am i dead wrong??

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=atl&ll...41&spn=0.004498,0.012802&t=k&hl=en
 
Daleaholic
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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:25 am

It's the same Aircraft, just the satellite image has some sort of delay, this can be seen at MCO on Google Earth!
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Indy
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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 4:30 am

Are you sure its the same one. This guy is quite a bit south of the runway considering how close he is. Right? Compare the two images and look at the correction he would have to make to be in the position he is on the runway.
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timz
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RE: ATL Aerial Pic

Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:29 am

They're much too close to be in the same picture, so there must be a seam between them. Apparently the camera aircraft (or possibly satellite) was not directly overhead when it shot the aircraft over the parking lot; it was north of the runway, so the aircraft that's few hundred feet in the air will align a spot on the ground south of the runway.
 
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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:34 am

Look at how close together the jets are in the pic. How long does it take to travel that distance? How much would the satellite have moved in those seconds to throw the image off that much. Depending on the orbit and whether it was being repositioned you would think the angle would only change east/west not north/south.
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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:45 am

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 1):
It's the same Aircraft, just the satellite image has some sort of delay

This must be the reason because if you look at RWY 8R, there are 3 MD-80's very close to each other using the same runway. The first is rotating on take off, a lil bit further down, there is another one maybe a 100ft in the air and the third is a lil bit further down than that just crossing the road a few hundred feet in the air.

I don't think ATL practices those types of aircraft separations.
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timz
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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:29 am

Quoting Indy (Reply 4):
you would think the angle would only change east/west not north/south.

The angle hasn't changed-- an aircraft on the runway will appear on the runway, but an aircraft above the runway will appear to the south side, if the camera is north of the runway.

As it happens the satellites do travel pretty much N-S, but I'm guessing that's irrelevant-- no reason to assume this is a satellite pic.
 
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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 7:33 am

They are indeed the same aircraft. In fact if you look further down the runway at the last taxiway, you can see where he has turned off. Also, if you look on the other runways you can see several simular cases. Infact on 8R you can see a Delta MD-80 through its take-off roll and just after it became airborne. These are not satellite images, but done from an overflying aircraft.

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md80fanatic
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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:12 pm

There are no seams that are visible. It looks like an overlay of two images taken 12 or so seconds apart. The Airtran 717 on approach to 9R and the (single) Delta MD-80 moving into position for takeoff on 9L.
 
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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 3:36 pm

Would anyone happen to know how much separation there is on arrival at ATL on a typical clear-weather day?

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RE: ATL Landings?

Tue Nov 15, 2005 6:42 pm

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 9):
Would anyone happen to know how much separation there is on arrival at ATL on a typical clear-weather day?

5 miles or so.
 
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RE: ATL Landings?

Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:40 am

Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 10):
Quoting SESGDL (Reply 9):
Would anyone happen to know how much separation there is on arrival at ATL on a typical clear-weather day?

5 miles or so.

Which equates to pretty much 1 minute per takeoff and landing.

And that goes on all day long, all week long ...

Absolutely amazing choreography. If you have Airnav (or another flight tracker) zoom in on KATL some time and just watch. Jaw dropping.

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