ei a330-200
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DL EMB170s

Wed Nov 16, 2005 5:14 pm

I am looking at taking a flight on Delta OAK-SLC-CLE-SLC-OAK. THe OAK-SLC and SLC-OAK segments are going to be flown by the MD-90s. The SLC-CLE-SLC will be operated by DLs EMB170. Any body have any news on these aircraft? I'm excited to get to fly one. How is the comfort level? What about inflight entertainment? I know most of you discourage the focus of IFE, but to me (being a hyper-active kid), its important. Is there even sound on the plane? Any comments are welcome.
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:34 pm

These aircraft are not flown or owned by Delta, but by Shuttle America. Also, if you want IFE bring your own as the Embraer 170 is not equipped with any.
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RE: DL EMB170s

Wed Nov 16, 2005 8:46 pm

I have flown on the EMB170 from SLC to DTW and back. NIce aircraft, but my feeling is is was a bit cramped for a flight that long (far better than the Barbie Jets (crjs) though) The service is about what you would expect on any US carrier these days. All the soda or juice you want and a bag of "Plane Chips". No IFE so you better take a double dose of benedryl to put a cap on your hyperactivity, or bring your own entrainment with you.
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:19 am

Quoting SunValley (Reply 2):
my feeling is is was a bit cramped for a flight that long

Compared to what???
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 3:50 am

I recently flew on an AC E175. You can read about it here:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/65184/a

Yes, different company / different services / etc. But, you'll get an idea of the confort level of the plane. For what it is worth: I loved it.

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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 4:56 am

Shuttle America's E170s are fantastic... when they work. The seats are all leather and larger with more leg room than just about any other coach product. I just flew CLE-SLC-CLE, it's not cramped at all and I'm 6'. The only problem is the E170s have some teething problems. In the past week 2 of our flights have been cancelled for computer problems. My flight home from SLC was 4 hours late thanks to computer problems on the inbound and sucking in a rock on the outbound.

What time are you flying? I work for Delta at Cleveland, I'll look out for your flight.

(Oh, btw, no IFE... but c'mon you don't really need it on a 3 hour flight, do you?)
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:05 am

They are great a/c. I think that the E-jets are more comfortable than the 319 family. JB has proven that with the addition of the E190 into their fleet. I will admit that we do not have any IFE on our a/c, but I bring my laptop and CD player to while the time away.


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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:27 am

I cant believe anyone would say they are cramped...More generous space than any other standard coach product out there,including all airbus and boeing..Some people here just freak me out with their comments!!!
 
ei a330-200
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:45 am

OK, another question. With the flight out, I'll have enough flyer miles to upgrade. Would it be worth it for the flights back? Or would you reccomend that I save my upgrade for a transcon?
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:47 am

Quoting EI A330-200 (Reply 8):
Would it be worth it for the flights back? Or would you reccomend that I save my upgrade for a transcon?

Not worth it. First class is nothing more than a slightly wider seat and more pitch. Service is exactly the same. I didn't even get a drink before takeoff like I do on DL first class. SAVE IT!
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:43 am

N766UA..........how have the loads been on the SLC-CLE flights?


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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:51 am

Decent. They're picking up. Initially it was maybe 0 F and 20-25 Y, now it's getting to be closer to 2 or 3 F and 40 or 50Y.. just depends on the days. The other day it was full... 70 people.. and they had to kick off 50 bags because it was overweight. We had to re-route the bags through ORD, CVG, DTW, etc. etc. much to the pax dismay.
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 6:53 am

Quoting Chrisjake (Reply 10):
how have the loads been on the SLC-CLE flights?

Too early to tell, especially since the route started during a less busy travel season.
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 11):
Decent. They're picking up. Initially it was maybe 0 F and 20-25 Y, now it's getting to be closer to 2 or 3 F and 40 or 50Y.. just depends on the days. The other day it was full... 70 people.

Out of curiousity how are the SLC-CMH/PSP/MEM/PSP/IND/DTW routes doing?
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 7:46 am

Why in God's name would anyone want to go to Clevelamd in the late Fall / Winter? LOL
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:26 am

Quoting EI A330-200 (Reply 8):
OK, another question. With the flight out, I'll have enough flyer miles to upgrade. Would it be worth it for the flights back? Or would you reccomend that I save my upgrade for a transcon?

Delta miles are only good for upgrades on Y/B/M fares (the three unrestricted fare brackets).

As for using them for an upgrade, don't...it's a three hour flight in coach, so it's more than bearable...save the miles up for an award ticket or something...the only times I fly Delta's first class is when I'm upgraded (as a Medallion)...I wouldn't think about paying cash or miles for it on a flight that short.

Also, I don't know how true this is for G inventory (the bracket that Platinum Medallion upgrades and miles come out of), but I know that the V bracket (Medallion upgrade) is V0 in advance (which means that everyone has to play the gate lottery).

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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:47 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 11):
The other day it was full... 70 people.. and they had to kick off 50 bags because it was overweight.

That's the only problem I see running these planes on the longer routes. A direct flight is great, but as a customer, if I don't get my bag on that same flight, it's not really worth it.
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 8:49 am

Quoting Markus (Reply 15):
Why in God's name would anyone want to go to Clevelamd in the late Fall / Winter? LOL

...to see LeBron and the Cavs!  Big grin
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 2:44 pm

Tomorrow 11/17 (coach):

SLC-CLE:
64/64
60/64

SLC-CMH:
64/64
53/64

SLC-PSP:
64/64

SLC-IND:
60/64
37/64

SLC-MEM:
44/64

SLC-DTW:
46/64

Return (Tomorrow):

CLE-SLC:
33/64
60/64

CMH-SLC:
58/64
63/64

PSP-SLC:
33/64

IND-SLC:
50/64
64/64

MEM-SLC:
54/64

DTW-SLC:
52/64
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Thu Nov 17, 2005 10:07 pm

I have some questions regarding Delta's EMB-170s also.
1, How many aircraft are currently flying for Delta, and what are their registration numbers?
2, How many more aircraft are on there way? (If any)
3, Any chance the EMB-170 will replace some CR7 routes out of ATL?
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:24 am

Quoting N766UA (Reply 5):
In the past week 2 of our flights have been cancelled for computer problems.

Yeah, same problems that have been seen on the US side. We had heard the problems were resolved, but apparently there's some way to go. Will be a great airplane once the computer issues are resolved.
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:12 am

Hi Guys

The E-170 is an incredibly comfortable aircraft to fly on. The pitch is very generous in both First and Economy. Also, the seats in Economy are one inch wider than Economy seats on mainline Delta aircraft.

Shuttle America follows the same service guidelines as Delta mainline. A flight such as CLE-SLC gets two beverage services and two snack services, plus a water service every half-hour per our guidelines on service. And on our SAT-JFK flights, First Class gets a meal servive (currently this is our longest DL flight and the only one that meets DL's criteria for meal-service).

Their is currently no IFE on the aircraft, however, our President and CEO has been telling recent upgrade classes to S5 that it is forthcoming, so we shall wait and see!

As for the teething problems, the software on this aircraft is continually being updated and revised by Embraer as they gain more operational knowledge of the aircraft. With every new update, it takes time to adjust to it, and like in all things, it always adds the potential to uncover something else being affected in the software arena!

Overall, passengers on my flights have overwhelmingly agreed that the aircraft is a winner. Is it a 767? No. But for a narrow-body jet operating these kinds of stage-lengths, it does the job incredibly well. I truly love to work on it, and 99% of our passengers love flying on it!

-Tony

PS - For those of you experiencing some of our teething-problems. Why do our crews lovingly refer to the E-170 as the Embraer 180? Because it keeps having to turn around  Wink
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RE: DL EMB170s

Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:17 am

Quoting Iowaman (Reply 13):
Out of curiousity how are the SLC-CMH/PSP/MEM/PSP/IND/DTW routes doing?

I haven't the slightest  silly . I can check the computer at work this weekend.
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RE: DL EMB170s

Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:45 am

OK, just a concern. If DL has been having teething problems and been having to turn the aircraft around, what are the chances that one of my flights will have probelms? This is my first time flying Delta, so I'm a little concerned.
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:50 am

Anybody know the chances that I'll have a teething problem with my flight? The dates are sorta important.
 
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RE: DL EMB170s

Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:00 am

Your flights will most likely be fine. Airlines go through this all the time when putting new aircraft types into service. Our completion factor at S5 with the 170s is close to 99%, so don't worry.

Worst case scenario, if the aircraft does go mechanical, DL rebooks you on other flights.

-Tony
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RE: DL EMB170s

Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:18 am

I just flew Shuttle America's (Delta Air Lines) E170 3 days ago from SLC to IND. One word is all the aircraft needs to describe it - Amazing. The legroom is very generous. The seats are all leather and extremely comfortable. I managed to take a shot of the interior, this should give everyone an idea....



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