Lufthansa747
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Air Canada B767-275

Sun May 21, 2000 7:17 am

How did the two Boeing 767-275s make their way to AC fleet (having the Canadian customer number 75)? Registrations of these a/c are C-GPWA and WB, line numbers 36 and 52.

Did CP order 767-200s with PW engines back in the eighties and never took delivery? I believe these are the only 275s around, CP only has 300s with GE engines, right?

Thanks in advance.

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ramprat
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RE: Air Canada B767-275

Sun May 21, 2000 7:29 am

I believe they were owned by Canadian Pacific and then sold to Air Canada somewhere about the time that Pacific Western and Canadian Pacific and Wardair were combined. Thst's what I was told anyway.
 
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RE: Air Canada B767-275

Sun May 21, 2000 7:31 am

Those two airplanes are ex: Pacific Western airplanes, which were sold to AC just before PWA joined up with CPair to create Canadian Airlines International


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RE: Air Canada B767-275

Sun May 21, 2000 8:37 am

This pair of aircraft were Pacific Western aircraft, and were sold to Air Canada, as Slawko said, just before the merger as part of fleet standardization. The -x75 designation has always been Pacific Western, CPAir was -x17. Don't forget that it was actually PWA that bought out CP, this is why the -x75 designation was retained for the newly formed Canadian Airlines International way back in 1987.

CPAir also ordered 767-200's back in the early '80's, but never took delivery. The 767 orders were changed to 737-300's (I don't believe the 767-217's ever reached the production line), and the 733's subsequently saw 3 different liveries and then were sold before PWA bought out CPAir, so they never went into service with Canadian Airlines.
 
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RE: Air Canada B767-275

Sun May 21, 2000 8:41 am

Thanks a lot for the info. I flew C-GPWB recently YYZ-YUL. And AC183 thanks for the correction about the designations, I had no idea about that.

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RE: Air Canada B767-275

Sun May 21, 2000 9:20 am

Hey all,

One other thing about the B767-275's in AC's fleet. These two a/c are the only two 767's in AC's fleet that have the regular forward cargo door instead of a pallet door.
The regular forward cargo door is smaller (the same size as the rear cargo door) than a pallet door. A pallet door allows for pallets with larger/heaver cargo to be loaded in the forward hold.
Take a look at the following examples. The American Airlines 767 pic has a regular forward cargo door, and the Malev Hungarian Airlines plane has a pallet door.

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Just an extra little tid-bit about the 275's.
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