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New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:02 am

With a pending announcement tomorrow a new widebody route may be available............but what will it be?????
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:14 am

An announcement on a weekend?

Really?

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:20 am

well maybe no announcement tomorrow, but it will be available for sale tomorrow!!!
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:22 am

IAH-MAN with 767-200s perhaps?
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:41 am

CALMSP, share your knowledge!

I can't handle this anxiety....

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:42 am

sorry, can't do it, not until it is available to the public tomorrow!!!!!
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:52 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 5):
sorry, can't do it, not until it is available to the public tomorrow!!!!!

I can respect that, what about a hint though?

From EWR or IAH?

Europe, Asia, or S. America? Or maybe even Africa?

Anything?

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:30 am

I would bet a substantial amount that the new route is EWR-DME. It has been rumored for a long time, and CO is soliciting Russian-language F/A's on their website.

However, it could also be something completely different. It wouldn't be the first time CO did something totally unexpected.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:40 am

well I believe DME is having some problems and have heard it is pushed back until 2007............but the other two that I have heard on the hit list is ATH/MUC...and it is only feasible with a 762/4/777...........so..............
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:49 am

Munich before Prague? Wow!

Even with the LH BBJ from EWR or the Skyteam alliance?

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:55 am

well it could very well be PRG as well..........I believe Czech is pulling out of EWR if I'm not mistaken.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:58 am

ATH would be cool, if anything.... would that be doable with a 767?
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:24 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 2):
well maybe no announcement tomorrow

Ok, so if there is no announcement, where shall we look for the new city?


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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 10:57 am

PVG? SEL? And on a wild wish.....JNB or CPT? LOS was rumoured......
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting AirPortugal310 (Reply 11):
ATH would be cool, if anything.... would that be doable with a 767?

Talking range-wise, doable from both EWR and IAH with a 767, -200 or -400 (though IAH-ATH is on the outer edge of 767-400 range, but most likely the flight would be from EWR)

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 13):
LOS was rumoured......

Well, that was announced, but I though CO gave up because they refused to pay the bribes the corrupt officials wanted.

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 5):
sorry, can't do it, not until it is available to the public tomorrow!!!!!



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 8):
but the other two that I have heard on the hit list is ATH/MUC...and it is only feasible with a 762/4/777.



Quoting CALMSP (Reply 10):
well it could very well be PRG as well

So do you know for sure, and just stringing us along, or do you not know, based on listing 3 possibilities?  liar   spin 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:40 pm

i'm not sure of what will be announced, (i have a hunch though)...but the change will be quite a surprise....................and i'll key you in once it go's on sale for the public.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:08 pm

Watch it be something like EWR-LAX lol

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:14 pm

Hooray, Tripple 7 service between Dallas and Houston!!!!

Okay, I'll stop wishing now.

I am seriously pulling for Domodedovo, because I've got a friend that lives there and needs a ticket home... And Conti's 762/764 offering is far nicer than Delta's 763. And now he's a OnePass member, so.... come on, Conti, go to Moscow!

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 4:15 pm

CAL,

Are you referring to OGG-LAX(-IAH) with a 75B/(738) starting Feb 16th (CO136)?

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 5:00 pm

Give us a hint CALMSP. Looks like I'll have to plan another inaugural flight. Did EWR-DEL-EWR earlier this month. Think that makes 6 that I've done.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:09 pm

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 18):
Are you referring to OGG-LAX(-IAH) with a 75B/(738) starting Feb 16th (CO136)?

Wow--has that been announced? I sure see CO136/137 on the schedules LAX-OGG with a 757-200.

So Continental is extending Hawaii ops.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:13 pm

Drerx7,

Flight 136/137 seem to be fairly new, though there are numerous bookings on them so ?? Most of us in the office that work the Pacific flights didn't see this until tonight. Seems the OGG-IAH will run through LAX post Feb.? freeing up a 764, from what we see.

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:16 pm

CO got rid of the non-stop IAH-OGG 764 starting in mid-February and is now sending everyone through LAX on a 75B. It's wreaking havoc with our reservations for our trip to Maui in February (the flight now arrives 5 hours later than the nonstop), and I'm on hold with reservations to sort things out.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:11 pm

I see nothing new... what is it!?
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:12 am

any news on the Accra or Lagos route?
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:15 am

It's probably something like EWR-FLL or EWR-MCO since B6 now flies the route like 4 or 5x daily.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:20 am

Quoting Cory6188 (Reply 22):
CO got rid of the non-stop IAH-OGG 764 starting in mid-February and is now sending everyone through LAX on a 75B. It's wreaking havoc with our reservations for our trip to Maui in February (the flight now arrives 5 hours later than the nonstop), and I'm on hold with reservations to sort things out.

Ohh--well that sucks, all so they can take another widebody from IAH to send across the pond from EWR. Ahh well...
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:21 am

okay...........now it has been said...........yeah we are dropping our IAH-OGG service and replacing it with a 757 service LAX-OGG..........now we are going to utilize the widebody elsewhere..............
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:28 am

I will still love to see additional 757 service to Hawaii, including KOA and LIH, from the West Coast.

Back to topic, I cant wait to see what gets added with the 767 from the OGG route.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:29 am

So my question is, why start a thread about a new route and then say "oh I can't say anything?" Why not just wait until it is announced?  eyebrow 
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:31 am

I didn't say we were positively announcing a new route, I was stating that an announcement of a change was happening with the intent of the possiblity of a new route in the near future.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:31 am

CLE-AMS, probably adding a new destination like the ones of Berlin...Stuggart
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:32 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 30):
I didn't say we were positively announcing a new route, I was stating that an announcement of a change was happening with the intent of the possiblity of a new route in the near future.

What?! You're kidding me, right?

For all we know, it could just be an upgrade to something else, it doesn't necessarily have to be another new route...

[Edited 2005-11-19 16:33:34]
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:33 am

Quoting TrijetFan1 (Reply 31):
CLE-AMS

As much as I would absolutely love this, I just dont see it happening with a 764. In fact, I could see CLE-HNL before I could see CLE-AMS with a widebody.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:35 am

what would we upgrade??? We continually strive to fly to new international destinations, and we are starting to reach into eastern europe, however the 75E can no longer fly any further, its stretched to its limit. With an extra widebody to deploy now, we can possibly reah ATH/MUC/PRG which we are interested in.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:37 am

IMHO, PRG should be top of the list to help fill out the gap in eastern europe, followed by MUC and then ATH.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:40 am

Damn you CALMSP! Silly This change is being annouced today (saturday)?
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:43 am

i'm not sure of a big announcement, but it is going to be available to book today. I'm not sure how A340Spotter found out!! I just think its a somewhat big deeal, only b/c now we most likely would open up a new widebody route........would prefer IAH but most likely it will be EWR.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:46 am

Quoting CALMSP (Reply 37):
I'm not sure how A340Spotter found out!!

Found out what?! What is it?
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:20 am

Quoting Diesel33 (Reply 38):
Found out what?! What is it?

Seems to me to be the IAH-OGG service being changed to 1-stop via LAX, freeing up a 764 for a new destination.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:59 am

Quoting Mbm3 (Reply 33):
As much as I would absolutely love this, I just dont see it happening with a 764. In fact, I could see CLE-HNL before I could see CLE-AMS with a widebody.

It's probably safe to assume that CLE is not involved
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:09 am

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 20):
So Continental is extending Hawaii ops.

Just adjusting them downward after the busiest season is over...

Quoting Mbm3 (Reply 28):
I will still love to see additional 757 service to Hawaii, including KOA and LIH, from the West Coast.

If they do it with red-eyes, I could care less. Last thing I want as an LA resident is to end a nice vacation in Hawaii, then take a short red-eye back home bringing me home tired and stressed, negating the whole vacation purpose to begin with.

HAs schedule is far more relaxing for me, even if it means connecting in HNL.

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 39):
Seems to me to be the IAH-OGG service being changed to 1-stop via LAX, freeing up a 764 for a new destination.

Might this just be a changeout for maintenance of the 764 fleet over a period of time? Was this a 20 or 35 BF 764 flight?
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:10 am

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 25):
It's probably something like EWR-FLL or EWR-MCO since B6 now flies the route like 4 or 5x daily.

CO's 757-300s offer more seats than their 767-200s and just about the same amount as their 767-400s albeit with a lower CASM.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:22 am

no...........I think the IAH-OGG portion is over........maybe until we receive more widebodies........but we can utilize the widebody from this route to a much better served route. Better J fares and more cargo opportunities.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:36 am

I like the LAX-OGG flight, how about in addition to that flight IAH-OGG-KOA-IAH with a 757-200?

3,800 miles.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:45 am

yeah I was very surprised we did not move in that direction, with the way we have out of EWR.
 
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:05 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 44):
I like the LAX-OGG flight, how about in addition to that flight IAH-OGG-KOA-IAH with a 757-200?

Indeed, or perhaps service to several Hawaiian destinations from IAH

IAH-KOA 3332 nm
IAH-LIH 3450 nm
IAH-OGG 3325 nm
For comparison:
EWR-TXL 3458 nm

Seems like it might be possible w/ winglets, though tech stops at LAX might be forced on windier days. Unless winds US-HI are worse than EU-US.

So we've deduced that it will likely be a 767-400, using the one freed up from the IAH-OGG flight. So what will it be?
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:08 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 44):
I like the LAX-OGG flight, how about in addition to that flight IAH-OGG-KOA-IAH with a 757-200?

if they do it this way, i'll fly it (on the LAX portion):

IAH 7:45AM -- LAX 9:30AM (already flight 495, roughly)
LAX 11AM -- OGG 2:30PM
OGG 3:30PM -- KOA 4PM
KOA 4:30PM -- LAX 11:30PM
LAX 1AM -- IAH 6AM (already flight 1794, roughly)

logistically, it might be better to swap KOA and OGG, I don't know, since it would allow CO to use partner HA to get pax from KOA-OGG (flight 179) to then connect home to OGG-LAX should there not be enough seats freed up that day getting off on KOA.
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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:09 am

" I'm not sure how A340Spotter found out!! "

Shares...was available to book...and actually was showing up as a 738 IAH-OGG which caught my attention! Doubt we'll see any press release on this as it's just a slight change in aircraft and route scheduling (Sorry Cory, see that did change your plans)

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RE: New CO Widebody Route?

Sun Nov 20, 2005 4:16 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 47):
IAH 7:45AM -- LAX 9:30AM (already flight 495, roughly)
LAX 11AM -- OGG 2:30PM
OGG 3:30PM -- KOA 4PM
KOA 4:30PM -- LAX 11:30PM
LAX 1AM -- IAH 6AM (already flight 1794, roughly)

What I was thinking was they keep the LAX-OGG flight, in additon to that they also launch a nonstop flight from IAH to OGG with a 757-200 the return portion of which makes a stop in Kona because OGG's short runway would probably mean the 757 would not be able to take off with enough fuel requiring a stop in Kona. Although if the 767-400 could do OGG-IAH nonstop perhaps the 757 could aswell.
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