Venezuela747
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AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:05 am

As the topic says it looks like Alitalia flew their B777 to CCS back in September, not sure if it was from MXP or FCO since it does not say which day it was. Amadeus still list as the schedule aircraft a B767. Does anyone know if this was a one time deal or is AZ looking to make a permanent change?

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btw, what's going on with S3 B767, is it flying yet?
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lamedianaranja
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:38 am

I'm sure this was a one-time occurrence if you haven't seen it back since.
Maybe they were short of B767's for a reason and had a spare T7 hanging around. Or maybe the flight of the day before had been cancelled and they had to increase capacity for one time to accommodate all the passengers, who knows?
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:21 pm

Nice! How is AZ doing on the CCS-route? Is demand (very) high from Italy to CCS/Venezuela? AZ used to operate the 742 to CCS with VA also flying the route with the DC-10-30. Now AZ is the only airline flying to CCS and they now use a much smaller aircraft, the 763. If the flights are always fully booked can we expect any expansion plans for AZ to CCS? Maybe more capacity on existing flights (772) or more flights to CCS?

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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 2:55 pm

An AZ airliner seeking refuge before AZ goes under...
 
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Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:37 pm

Quoting IL96M (Reply 3):
seeking refuge

Better go to a place like say HNL then! Venezuela doesn't have a very good track record in its airline survival and the country is turning into a communist haven.
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Chiguire
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 6:54 pm

Since everybody seems to be checking the picture data daily in search of the S3 767 a lot of interesting other things come up.....except the S3 767 itself.

But this T7 from AZ was really an exception, as all reservation systems still show the 767.

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 4):
the country is turning into a communist haven.

Thank you for reminding me, you made my day !  yell 

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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:12 pm

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 5):
Thank you for reminding me

At least you're in Margarita  Cool, a bit better off than the rest in say CCS. You get the tourists, their planes, you've got the beaches and the sun shining year round. Make the best of it. We'll try to visit your beautiful island again next year, BTW.
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:19 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
Is demand (very) high from Italy to CCS/Venezuela?

in Venezuela ís a big big Italian cumiunty.

AZ loads to CCS seems very good, and the 767 seems to be the perfect aircraft for the mxp/fco - ccs route on daily basis...

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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:23 pm

Quoting Avianca (Reply 7):
AZ loads to CCS seems very good, and the 767 seems to be the perfect aircraft for the mxp/fco - ccs route on daily basis...

Thanks for the information. So it's comparable to the Portuguese population there? TP also has a good load factor as far as I've heard. The Portuguese population in Venezuela is also quite big.

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Avianca
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sat Nov 19, 2005 11:53 pm

I would say Italian group is even bigger than the Portuguese. + many of them has still strong relationships with Italia and there relatives in Italy.

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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:09 am

Quoting Venezuela747 (Thread starter):
btw, what's going on with S3 B767, is it flying yet?

One of the Venezuelan A.netters (BA747) went to the tourism show at "La Esmeralda" here at CCS. I was suposed to go with him, but traffic stopped me...
He went to Santa Barbara's desk at the show and asked about the supposed 763. They responded that their first aircraft is already flying, an ex-Icelandair 767-300ER, and the second one is being painted and fitted with the asked configuration. So, the answer to your question is: Yes, they are flying one of them in supposed Icelandair colours...

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 4):
Better go to a place like say HNL then! Venezuela doesn't have a very good track record in its airline survival and the country is turning into a communist haven.

Quoting Chiguire (Reply 5):
Thank you for reminding me

At least you're in Margarita , a bit better off than the rest in say CCS. You get the tourists, their planes, you've got the beaches and the sun shining year round. Make the best of it. We'll try to visit your beautiful island again next year, BTW.

As I can see, you do love our country! BTW, Chiguire is not in Margarita, he lives in Frankfurt and he is almost 100% German... So shame on you Lamedianaranja, a less venezuelan guy loves our country more than you!

Quoting Avianca (Reply 7):
Quoting A388 (Reply 2):
Is demand (very) high from Italy to CCS/Venezuela?

in Venezuela ís a big big Italian cumiunty.

AZ loads to CCS seems very good, and the 767 seems to be the perfect aircraft for the mxp/fco - ccs route on daily basis...

Yes, a few months ago there was a thread saying that one of AZ's best routes was MXP/FCO-CCS because there were a lot of connections here to Peru, Colombia and Ecuador, and in fact, when I flew MXP-CCS, the aircraft was full of Peruvians and Ecuatorians. I wouldn't mind at all having an AZ 777 here at CCS! I love them! (Flew EI-DBM MXP-MIA)

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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sun Nov 20, 2005 3:56 am

Quoting 797 (Reply 10):
that their first aircraft is already flying, an ex-Icelandair 767-300ER

Hmmmmm....maybe that explains why I saw an Icelandair 767-300ER parked on the south apron at MAD this morning when I went there to drop a friend who had to catch an IB flight to OVD.

About 1 hour later I was out of a shopping center in the north part of Madrid when I saw the 763 taking off and making the usual left turn to head west, and another left turn to head southwest afterwards...following the same route that all IB's A340s do after leaving MAD. It was clearly going towards the Atlantic Ocean.
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797
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:03 pm

Quoting IBERIA747 (Reply 11):
About 1 hour later I was out of a shopping center in the north part of Madrid when I saw the 763 taking off and making the usual left turn to head west, and another left turn to head southwest afterwards...following the same route that all IB's A340s do after leaving MAD. It was clearly going towards the Atlantic Ocean.

That explains it all... It's not a confusion, it means that S3's actually using a 763 but in not full colours!

Now I've to wait to see the real S3 763!!!

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lamedianaranja
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:10 pm

Quoting 797 (Reply 10):
So shame on you Lamedianaranja, a less Venezuelan guy loves our country more than you!

Excuse me? I never said I don't like Venezuela! It's the way the people are treating it that make it a little bit less than perfect place.
BTW, not a drop of criolla in me either... So I wouldn't presume to criticize.
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Mon Nov 21, 2005 2:21 am

Quoting 797 (Reply 10):
Yes, a few months ago there was a thread saying that one of AZ's best routes was MXP/FCO-CCS because there were a lot of connections here to Peru, Colombia and Ecuador, and in fact, when I flew MXP-CCS, the aircraft was full of Peruvians and Ecuatorians. I wouldn't mind at all having an AZ 777 here at CCS! I love them! (Flew EI-DBM MXP-MIA)

I think it the same way the LH flight is working, a big part of the passengers are for final destinations in Colombia/Peru/Ecuador. I would say at least 35-40 of the LH passengers are conecting passengers to the above mentioned countrys, with AZ I do not kow exactly but they should have also at lest 25-30% of the passengers as conecting passengers on the ccs flights.

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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Mon Nov 21, 2005 4:48 am

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 13):
Excuse me? I never said I don't like Venezuela! It's the way the people are treating it that make it a little bit less than perfect place.
BTW, not a drop of criolla in me either... So I wouldn't presume to criticize.

No problem, just had to make it clear.
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RE: AZ B777 In CCS

Mon Nov 21, 2005 6:21 am

So this is what is flying for S3, do they have Venezuelan crew operating the aircraft and maintenance?


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