ruslan
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Query On LH A343 & AF A332 Missed Approach @ ATL

Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:13 am

Hey all,
I just had a couple questions based on observations I made while plane-spotting at Hartsfield-Jackson Int'l last Tuesday.

1. The weather was mostly cloudy with no rain, but not among the worse days I have seen and visibility was pretty good. There was moderate build-up to the west and arrivals and departures were to the west because of WSW winds of about 15 knots. I was mostly waiting for the European arrivals and on that day, the Air France A330-200 joined final for the runway that was being used for departures and did a spectacular overshoot (with landing gear still disengaged), banked to the right, did the "go around" and then came in as usual in regular sequence. I thought that they hadn't missed the runway because of the exact way the approach was carried out. I was further convinced when 45 minutes later the Lufthansa A340-300 did the same thing, also over the runway being used for departures.
I thought that maybe both crews were unfamiliar with the airport and opted for the go-arounds like I've seen done before with visual approaches but that explanation didn't satisfy me because there is such a thing as the glide slope and the ILS which facilitate landings in FAR worse weather conditions or simply if the crew is unfamiliar with a runway. Contrary to common sense, is this practice an option by the captain or could the ATC have requested that they do this for spacing or sequencing? (that explanation doesn't sit well with me either). Can anyone shed some light on this kind of situation?? I know that missed approaches occur all the time but it just seemed like a coincidence for both flights to "opt??"/ "ordered?" to do it.
I didn't mind of course because I had great views of two magnificent airplanes and their wingspans right over my head..

2. Also, an Allegiant MD-83 departed at around 4:30 PM and since ATL isn't on Allegiant's regular schedule, does anyone know if this aircraft was on a charter flight/ emergency stopover/ in for maintenance etc..? If so, can you provide the reg??

Thanks in advance and happy spotting,
Ruslan
 
tu154m
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RE: Query On LH A343 & AF A332 Missed Approach @ ATL

Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:03 am

I came into ATL on a South African A340-600 last week and we were too high and did a go around. Must be an Airbus problem.
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khenleydia
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RE: Query On LH A343 & AF A332 Missed Approach @ ATL

Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:15 am

Quoting Tu154m (Reply 1):
I came into ATL on a South African A340-600 last week and we were too high and did a go around. Must be an Airbus problem.

I come in on the same flight on Wednesday this week. I'll let you know if I am that lucky!  Smile

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ikramerica
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RE: Query On LH A343 & AF A332 Missed Approach @ ATL

Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:18 am

Quoting Tu154m (Reply 1):
I came into ATL on a South African A340-600 last week and we were too high and did a go around. Must be an Airbus problem.

3 events without knowledge of others does not an Airbus problem make.

We have no knowledge of other types that may have had to do the same thing at ATL.

That's why he asked...
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pensacolaguy
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RE: Query On LH A343 & AF A332 Missed Approach @ ATL

Sun Nov 20, 2005 6:29 am

Quoting Ruslan (Thread starter):
2. Also, an Allegiant MD-83 departed at around 4:30 PM and since ATL isn't on Allegiant's regular schedule, does anyone know if this aircraft was on a charter flight/ emergency stopover/ in for maintenance etc..? If so, can you provide the reg??

On November 15 2005 (Tuesday) a Allegiant Air MD-83 arrived into ATL from IFP LAUGHLIN/BULLHEAD INTERNATIONAL, BULLHEAD CITY AZ, as flight number 5151...Then Departed to SDF as flight number 5152. Most likely charter flights. No idea on the aircraft registration number though.

[Edited 2005-11-19 22:31:06]
 
tu154m
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RE: Query On LH A343 & AF A332 Missed Approach @ ATL

Sun Nov 20, 2005 8:09 am

In case you didn't realize, I was kidding about the Airbus problem. Our flight did do a go-around though, because they were to high. Looked cool on the tail camera!!
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brokenrecord
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RE: Query On LH A343 & AF A332 Missed Approach @ ATL

Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:46 pm

I'm surprised you didn't have a scanner out there listening to tower... That would have helped because the crew would have certainly advised the tower to the issue.