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1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:07 am

Hello all,

I hope it is okay to post this message.

I have spent some time working on a web page some of you may be interested in. I am listing flight schedules from the July 1, 1983 Official Airline Guide.

It is completely non-profit and the only reason I am posting the link is because I thought some of you may be interested.

The link is:

www.geocities.com/departing1983/index.html

Thanks.

Greg
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:11 am

NICE WORK!--very interesting, appreciate it.
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Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:10 am

It's a great web page and I really enjoyed it.  bigthumbsup 

Also, I do have some questions about it:
Do you plan to show only flights operated by US airlines, or you will include foreign airlines as well?
Do you plan to add other years?
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:30 am

Really nice site!

i like the links to the pics, there were some great shots of airlines I didn't know about.
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 5:41 am

Very nice, I like the CLE-STL on TWA with a 767-200. I flew this route myself once, the plane was brand new.
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:14 am

Hey CLE757,

Always nice to hear from someone from my hometown. What is there from CLE to STL these days? 737s and RJs? Far cry from that 767!

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 4):
Very nice, I like the CLE-STL on TWA with a 767-200. I flew this route myself once, the plane was brand new
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:20 am

I'm wishing we could get some of those heavies back here in Houston
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:25 am

Nice page. Can you add ROC and BUF?
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 7:34 am

N702ML,

Thank you for sharing all your hard work and research. Time permitting, I look forward to the updates.

Jack
If not now, then when?
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:05 am

Great work! Thanks for posting that!
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 8:46 am

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 7):
Nice page. Can you add ROC and BUF?

Thanks for the compliment, LHMARK. Also, thanks for helping me realize I didn't have a link to BUF on the page! Its there now!

Working on CMH, then (per request) MSY, and then ROC just for you.

Enjoy
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Tom in NO
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:55 pm

N702ML,

Great website!!! It's obvious you've put quite a lot of work into it.

In July of 1983, I was a student at Embry-Riddle in Daytona Beach, FL. One of my regular things to do was to jog from my dorm over to the airport terminal. When you get some time, could you post up the schedule for DAB? I'm sure those in school down there now would be greatly interested in comparing what we had 22 years ago with the little bit they get these days.

Thanks much.

Tom at MSY
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 1:59 pm

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 11):
When you get some time, could you post up the schedule for DAB? I'm sure those in school down there now would be greatly interested in comparing what we had 22 years ago with the little bit they get these days.

Will do, Tom. As I said, CMH is almost done, to be followed by MSY and then ROC and then I will get to work on DAB just for you.

By the way, I think you are a fellow WN-er. I will be sure to look for you the next time I work a flight through there, although I have yet to work a MSY flight since before Katrina. Maybe with the increased service, I will be through there soon.

Regardless, sitting reserve over this weekend, I am sure I will have plenty of time to get all of these requests done.
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:22 pm

N702ML,

Im sorry if I have a request for you, is there anyway you could get the schedules in/out of Salt Lake City for me?
Check out my blog at fl310travel.blogspot.com!
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:30 pm

Awesome website man. As usual, I'm really impressed.

Let me know if you get an MSY layover anytime soon.
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 2:45 pm

Great job Greg. We e-mailed a few times and the last I heard you were working on a Midway website. I like this idea though...what a great reference for everyone to access to. Did you have to get any type of permission from OAG to do this? I have a feeling you're going to get a lot of requests.
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:21 pm

Kick ass!

On the Denver page, you do not have a DH-6 picture for Rocky Mtn. May I suggest this one?


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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:29 pm

It was very interesting, it appears that Republic Airlines
had a hub/focus city in Atlanta....did not know this....
anyone know about their operations? gates? how long?
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 9:58 pm

Thanks for the compliments, all. I appreciate them. I figured there would be some of y'all who appreciated the site.

CMH is now up on the site. I will start work on ROC tonight and hope to get to MSY and SLC this weekend.

Quoting N200WN (Reply 15):
Did you have to get any type of permission from OAG to do this? I have a feeling you're going to get a lot of requests.

Hmmmm....something I did not think about. I guess since it was something that started off just to humor me and pass the time I didn't think about that....hmmmm.....

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 14):
Let me know if you get an MSY layover anytime soon.

Steve, I don't think we even have any MSY overnights yet. At least none that I have heard of. Maybe as we re-build our service there, they will be returning soon. (You know how much I miss that great hotel we stayed at there - HA!) I will let you know when I get there, though. Glad YOU are okay.
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:10 pm

Thanks for the post. That was interesting reading for me. My home airport is ALB and it is interesting to see the changes in the past 20 years.

There are more flights to more distant locations now. What we lost were the short hop jet flights. In '83 ALB-BUF was 5 daily DC-9s. Now the route is flown by Beech 1900s. Also it's interesting to see all the flights to JFK (including 2 by 727) which is currently not served from ALB.

Cool stuff. Thanks

Dan
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:56 pm

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 17):
it appears that Republic Airlines
had a hub/focus city in Atlanta....did not know this....
anyone know about their operations? gates? how long?

Atlanta was a remnant of the old Southern. The peak was in the neighborhood of 120 daily flights around 1979 or so; I have the exact info, I just need to find it.

Southern never operated at the new terminal, Republic operated from Concourse D. In the old terminal building, Southern operated from Terminal C. (Since demolished)

Since the birth of Southern, Atlanta was the primary city on the network. It served as a tertiary airline when compared to the trunk carriers of DL and EA.
Southern flew from Atlanta to such places as Tuscaloosa, Moultrie, Muscle Shoals, Greenville/Spartanburg, Eglin AFB etc; small cities within a 200 mile radius.

Then as the airline grew, more far flung destinations began to appear, and the competition at ATL became very heated. Remember too, In the 70's United had a focus city of sorts in Atlanta, so did Piedmont, on routes that competed with Southern...
Airlines that served Atlanta, usually did so with several destinations over multiple daily flights. And this was before the current airport design; back then the photos of Atlanta are incredible with aircraft squeezed into every available square inch of property.

To avoid all this competitive congestion, Republic shifted their SE operational center to MEM...where it remains today; as Northwest.
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 10:58 pm

Oh, I got so carried away with the Atlanta stuff forgot why I was here!

To the OP: Nice work on the website! Look forward to your future enhancements and additions.
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:09 pm

Nothing like the Air One flights on DFW-STL   Very impressive!

Texan

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[Edited 2005-11-23 15:22:33]
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:51 pm

Quoting N702ML (Reply 12):
By the way, I think you are a fellow WN-er. I will be sure to look for you the next time I work a flight through there

I'm actually in airport management here, primarily doing contract maintenance coordination, which these days takes up almost all my time. I do know quite a number of WN's people here, as my office is within spitting distance of WN's ticket counter. Let me know next time you come down here, and I can at least meet you at the plane.

Quoting N702ML (Reply 18):
Steve, I don't think we even have any MSY overnights yet. At least none that I have heard of.

None yet. Dependant upon.....

Quoting N702ML (Reply 18):
(You know how much I miss that great hotel we stayed at there - HA!)

The hotel in question took in a great deal of roof damage from what I can tell. It might be a while before it opens up. I imagine that there are other airport hotels making overtures to WN for crew overnight rooms.

Tom at MSY
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Thu Nov 24, 2005 2:04 am

This was alot of work that you had to do - and it is much appreciated!

My requests for adds:

EWR
SYR
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:03 am

San Antonio please??

Great work...
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:03 am

Awesome job and very interesting!

If you get a chance, my requests are:

PHX
EVV
CHA
SFO
.......
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sat Nov 26, 2005 7:29 am

Were these schedules derived from the Pocket OAG I would surmise, correct?
I am in BOI and have been for 34 of 35 years and know that there were additional flights to/from here in 7/83. For example, Transwestern Airlines (WZ) had 1 nonstop to each Sun Valley and Twin Falls w/ SWM,Frontier had flights also from BOI to either Pasco, Eugene, or both. As well as others.
Thanks for putting this stuff on a site, makes me even more upset I tossed my full size and pocket OAG collection out during moves!!
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:33 am

Many things to address here...

First off:

Quoting LHMARK (Reply 7):
Can you add ROC and BUF?

Done!

Quoting Tom in NO (Reply 11):
When you get some time, could you post up the schedule for DAB?

Unfortunately, Tom, DAB is one of those cities where for some reason the schedule is not complete. For example, it shows service only to Atlanta and Miami. Yet, many of the MIA flights are listed as making 1 or 2 stops. Yet...there are no other cities or flights listed. I ran into the same problem with MHT. It shows only service from MHT to LGA but many of the flights stop someplace else. No other city is listed as a destination, though!

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 13):
is there anyway you could get the schedules in/out of Salt Lake City for me?

I shall begin working on that tonight, my friend.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 16):
On the Denver page, you do not have a DH-6 picture for Rocky Mtn. May I suggest this one?

The only issue is, the photos I am using are what the planes would have looked like in 1983. I don't know that Rocky Mountain Airways were painting their aircraft in Continental Express colors yet. Anyone know?

Quoting N62NA (Reply 24):
My requests for adds:

EWR
SYR

SYR is done! EWR will come after SLC.
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:34 am

Quoting N702ML (Reply 28):
SYR is done! EWR will come after SLC.

I take that back! SYR will be done soon!
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:21 am

N702ML,

Great Page, appreciate all the time and effort you have put forth in this. Just a question, not a request, but do you plan on doing this with any other OAG catalogues?

Thanks for you work.
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:33 am

Looking for info on old AA schedules online. Anyone have any?
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:20 am

Great job!

To me, its so interesting to see how this was right in the middle or towards the end of the legacies (now questionable) move to a pure hub and spoke philosophy.

Look at routes like Delta flying from IAH to ORD or from MSY to DEN. In those days, people used to fly Delta (and other legacies) because they took them straight to where they wanted to go, instead of through ATL, CVG or SLC...but this brings up a whole other discussion of what is wrong with legacies today.

Anyway, great job!

Cairo
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:32 am

Looks like a lot of work.

High quality.

Thank you.
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:12 am

Quoting N702ML (Reply 28):
I don't know that Rocky Mountain Airways were painting their aircraft in Continental Express colors yet. Anyone know?

Fair enough.

May I suggest this one?

I'm poking around for another...
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:24 am

Quoting N702ML (Reply 28):
SYR is done! EWR will come after SLC.



Quoting N702ML (Reply 29):
I take that back! SYR will be done soon

Fantastic! I've bookmarked your excellent website. Thanks!
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:32 pm

Quoting WDBRR (Reply 17):
It was very interesting, it appears that Republic Airlines
had a hub/focus city in Atlanta....did not know this....
anyone know about their operations? gates? how long?

It also appears that Republic had a hub/focus city in LAS at the time with 41 flights daily, they kept a lot of the old Hughes Air West system intact out west.
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Sun Nov 27, 2005 3:42 pm

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 6):
I'm wishing we could get some of those heavies back here in Houston

Sheesh, YOU are??? I just looked in the schedules for service to CRP and... *gasp* NARY A PROP NOR AN RJ!! Oh man, do I miss THOSE days. All mainline, all the time. *sigh* Ever since CO pulled their "widebody" out of here (otherwise known as a 737) we're RJ heaven.

Quoting Nosedive (Reply 34):
Fair enough.

May I suggest this one?

THAT ONE is accurate. I flew RA numerous times as a kid during that time period.

And... to my original point for posting, N702ML welcome to my RU list! The site ROCKS! Taught me a few things too. F'rinstance I NEVER knew who Emerald Air was as a kid... we never flew PA. I completely forgot about 'em. If you wouldn't mind, could you put CRP on the list for when you get time?? I recall service from UA when I was a kid but can't remember for sure... and would love to finally have proof!
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:28 am

Quoting Kanebear (Reply 37):
If you wouldn't mind, could you put CRP on the list for when you get time?? I recall service from UA when I was a kid but can't remember for sure... and would love to finally have proof!

Just checked my July 1976 OAG and the only airlines serving CRP appear to be BN, EA and TI with a mix of 727-100, 727-200 and DC9-10 series aircraft.

[Edited 2005-11-27 16:29:10]
 
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Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:21 am

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 27):
Were these schedules derived from the Pocket OAG I would surmise, correct?
I am in BOI and have been for 34 of 35 years and know that there were additional flights to/from here in 7/83. For example, Transwestern Airlines (WZ) had 1 nonstop to each Sun Valley and Twin Falls w/ SWM,Frontier had flights also from BOI to either Pasco, Eugene, or both.

I don't have a 7/83, but the 6/83 full-size OAG does show the WZ nonstops from SUN and TWF (including some BE9s) and WA and FL from PSC. No direct flights from EUG.
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Tue Nov 29, 2005 5:39 pm

Just a question, and sorry for the pessimism, but, didn't SLC have more deps/arr than the ones currently listed? Or is it still a work in progress? BTW, I love the site!
Check out my blog at fl310travel.blogspot.com!
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:51 pm

Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 40):
Just a question, and sorry for the pessimism, but, didn't SLC have more deps/arr than the ones currently listed? Or is it still a work in progress? BTW, I love the site!

WesternA318, believe it or not - that's it for Salt Lake City unless there were some very small commuter flights not listed. As TimZ pointed out, some flights are not listed in the pocket guide, but they seem to be on small commuter carriers. However, I included everything listed for SLC on the site. I admit - I was suprised at how few flights there were as well!

Just FYI....Newark should be done soon.
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 30, 2005 9:33 am

Okay y'all Newark is DONE!

I have to tell you....I love the People Express schedules out of Newark.

Just an example...three daily nonstops from Saint Petersburg to Newark and the departure times are: 2:00pm, 11:55pm, and 3am!

Enjoy!
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N62NA
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:44 am

Thanks for putting EWR up!

How are you doing this? Is it a database or are you just typing these into an HTML document?
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:23 pm

Thanks for doing my hometown airport EWR !!!
Loved seeing Eastern A300 flight between EWR and BDL.
I did fly an Eastern A300 from BOS to EWR around the
same time which continued to BDA, I remembered it was
"open seating" and I was amazed by that. everyone was
so spread out on that flight.
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:13 pm

Quoting N62NA (Reply 38):
Just checked my July 1976 OAG and the only airlines serving CRP appear to be BN, EA and TI with a mix of 727-100, 727-200 and DC9-10 series aircraft.

Now that is an OAG that I would like to see - something pre-deregulation. Maybe N702ML could give you a franchise...lol.

[Edited 2005-11-30 05:14:23]
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:18 pm

Quoting N200WN (Reply 45):
Now that is an OAG that I would like to see - something pre-deregulation. Maybe N702ML could give you a franchise...lol.

Oh, how I wish I had the time to do what N702ML is doing! Well, maybe when I retire --- just 25 more years to go!
 
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:33 pm

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 2):
It's a great web page and I really enjoyed it

  

Wow, I didn't know you could fly from:
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to:
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via:


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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:36 pm

Forgot to request: If you could do an OAG section from 1963 and 1973!

Imagine schedules with long haul flights on the early jets and the twilight of those classic props and propjets!
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RE: 1983 OAG Web Site

Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:50 pm

Quoting Vegasplanes (Reply 30):
Just a question, not a request, but do you plan on doing this with any other OAG catalogues?

This is the oldest OAG I have, thats why I chose to work on it. I may later work on one of the eary 90s editions later on. For now, though, there is still a lot to add from the 83 edition.

Quoting N62NA (Reply 43):
Is it a database or are you just typing these into an HTML document?

I'm typing it ALLLLLLL out. That's why it takes so long for each city to get finished.
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