ACdreamliner
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Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:25 am

hi all,

i've just booked on a flight in March (27th from EDI-LHR-YYZ rtn on the 10th of april).

flying out on a A321/A340 and comeing back on a B767/A321 (BD codeshare on EDI-LHR leg).

what service should i expect on these flights?

all comments welcome...

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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:33 am

I find with Air Canada its ussually (for me atleast) Executive = pretty good; Hospitality = aint that great but it does the job; Jazz = Dash-8s are alright, CRJ705s I havn't heard any complaints, CRJ200s everyone hates.



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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:43 am

Here is the seatmap of your flight to YYZ:
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Air_Canada/Air_Canada_Airbus_A340.php

Are you travelling hospitality class (economy)?

No PTV's in hospitality class, just main TV screens in the cabin!

Hope you enjoy your flight, I enjoy flying the A340's!  Smile

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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:47 am

The 340s are not bad if considering leg-room, seats, and overall interior. I have taken seats in differrent parts of Hospitality and there does not seem to be much difference - although the exit rows are the best. What I think would make or break it for you is the service that you get on board, and those across the Atlantic on AC are filled by senior FAs who are usually cheerful and chatty (their age does show however).
 
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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:52 am

Hi,

You can read some of my trip reports to get an idea. The first two are BOS-YYZ-LHR-GLA return (so, similar to what you'll do), but Executive First on AC (the transatlantic legs were on ex-CP B767s), Economy on BD (but this was before BD totally screwed up their service levels):

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/58691/
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/58837/

The third one is BOS-YYZ-FRA return all on Economy (the transatlantic legs were on A330s; so similar to the A340s).

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/trip_reports/read.main/55114/

I also did YUL-FRA last Sunday on A340. I generally tend to lean towards Boeings (you just can't beat the B767 2-3-2 config!), but that was an awesome flight and the A340 very very quiet; so my hat's off to Airbus (I was in Executive First, though, towards the front).

If you need anything else, please get in touch directly.

Hope you have safe flights! And, something that you will notice is that AC is generally more generous with legroom than other carriers.

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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 6:59 am

yeah, thanks for the feedback.

flew AC 762's GLA-YYZ september past. just wondered if there was any other differences...
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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:54 am

AC's longhaul service is still a great product. The food is good, service is friendly, seats are very comfortable (especially on the A330/A340) and despite no PTV's, the monitors are constantly playing good movies.

Quoting ETStar (Reply 3):
and those across the Atlantic on AC are filled by senior FAs who are usually cheerful and chatty (their age does show however).

I've noticed that in the last 4 years the trans atlantic crews are very young on the A330/A340's, most of the older F/A's seem to be on the trans Canada runs. Mind you, I fly out of YVR and YYC to Europe so maybe the YYZ based crews are older.
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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:27 pm

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 6):
The food is good

Actually, my main complaint with AC's long haul product is that the economy food during my last few flightswas really bad. The breakfast last September was inedible (the "fresh" fruit absolutely stunk with chemicals).

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 6):
playing good movies.

Ahem. Chariots Of Fire?  rotfl 

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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:00 pm

Quoting SNATH (Reply 7):
Actually, my main complaint with AC's long haul product is that the economy food during my last few flightswas really bad. The breakfast last September was inedible (the "fresh" fruit absolutely stunk with chemicals).

Mine has been exeptionaly good, last real bad meal on AC was back in December 2001 when I had chicken that didn't seem to be cooked all the way through. Plus they have a great beer selection ...  drunk  .

Quoting SNATH (Reply 7):
Ahem. Chariots Of Fire?

I feel sorry for you ....  Wink . Last trip out, we had 2 new blockbusters and "A Fish Called Wanda".
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RE: Air Canada A340

Sun Nov 27, 2005 11:57 pm

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 6):
I've noticed that in the last 4 years the trans atlantic crews are very young on the A330/A340's, most of the older F/A's seem to be on the trans Canada runs. Mind you, I fly out of YVR and YYC to Europe so maybe the YYZ based crews are older.

In spite of rumour, there just aren't that many "older F/A's" left kicking around. Of the 6000 or so F/A's in AC, more than half have less then 10 years with the airline. It appears now that the older ones like the one day, long transcon turnarounds, like YYZ-LAX-YYZ and YYZ-YVR-YYZ.

Over the last few years, AC has had a "buy-out" allowing early retirement for the F/A's. Most of the "older" ones left. I find, the ones that stayed are the ones that should stay. While (ahem) "seasoned" they do a great job that only experience allows.
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RE: Air Canada A340

Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:07 am

Quoting SNATH (Reply 7):
Actually, my main complaint with AC's long haul product is that the economy food during my last few flightswas really bad. The breakfast last September was inedible (the "fresh" fruit absolutely stunk with chemicals).

On my last Transatlantic the food was amazing!! YYC-LHR was the routing, and the food going out was great, a big chocolate brownie for desert. On the way back, we got tubs of ice cream, and then a couple of hours before landing we got pizza! I was quite impressed.
On Domestic Executive class flights, the food has been a mixed bag for me really. Had one flight where the meals where amazing, but on the return I got the weird greek salad type deal and it was terrible. My suggestion is if you can fly from somewhere other than YYZ on AC you'll be ok, the western based crews tend to be younger, and from my experience very friendly.
 
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RE: Air Canada A340

Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:54 am

The last time I flew AC transatlantic was YOW-YYZ-FRA and return in October 2001. They forgot to pack my vegetarian meal, so I didn't get to eat anything but crackers. No PTVs was a bummer. The F/A's were ancient and bitter. Pressing the service button meant you might get service....before the end of the flight...maybe.

I love AC for patriotic reasons, but I sure as hell hope things have improved since then!
 
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RE: Air Canada A340

Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:48 pm

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
Mine has been exeptionaly good,



Quoting ACYWG (Reply 10):
On my last Transatlantic the food was amazing!

I feel I need to revise what I said earlier. I flew FRA to YYZ yesterday on AC economy and I have to admit the food was much much better than what I had earlier in the year. I had the lamb and it was very good. Everything loooked like it was supposed to (lamb, vegetables, potatoes) and it was not the big mash that the economy food is usually like. The lamb tasted great too and it was very tender. We then got big biscuits with beverages half-way through and the pizza before landing (I still think LH's pizza is better though).

I hope that this was not an one-off and I hope they keep this quality up in the future!

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 8):
Quoting SNATH (Reply 7):
Ahem. Chariots Of Fire?

I feel sorry for you ....

Don't get me wrong; there's nothing wrong with Chariots Of Fire. BUT, when I'm on a plane I'd like to see something lively and entairtaining... Yesterday the movies were Fanastic 4 (better) and Gossford Park (again a very good movie but not really what I want to see on a plane).

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RE: Air Canada A340

Tue Nov 29, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting ACdreamliner (Thread starter):
Don't get me wrong; there's nothing wrong with Chariots Of Fire. BUT, when I'm on a plane I'd like to see something lively and entairtaining... Yesterday the movies were Fanastic 4 (better) and Gossford Park (again a very good movie but not really what I want to see on a plane).

Tony

Given that AC does not YET have AVOD, they've had a long standing policy of wall to wall or non-stop entertainment. On a typical transatlantic flight, most (if not all) non-AVOD carriers offer news, 1 full length feature film, and some shorts. AC does the same, and IN ADDITION, shows a Classic movie feature. Their current run feature is virtually from the same shopping list as all other carriers.
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RE: Air Canada A340

Wed Nov 30, 2005 12:49 am

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 13):
Given that AC does not YET have AVOD, they've had a long standing policy of wall to wall or non-stop entertainment. On a typical transatlantic flight, most (if not all) non-AVOD carriers offer news, 1 full length feature film, and some shorts. AC does the same, and IN ADDITION, shows a Classic movie feature. Their current run feature is virtually from the same shopping list as all other carriers.

Yes, and I believe LH only offers one movie on comparable flights. BUT, there are much more appropriate classic movies to show on a plane (A Fish Called Wanda would have been great!). But, Chariots Of Fire and Gossford Park? Come on...

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RE: Air Canada A340

Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:27 am

Quoting SNATH (Reply 14):
Yes, and I believe LH only offers one movie on comparable flights. BUT, there are much more appropriate classic movies to show on a plane (A Fish Called Wanda would have been great!). But, Chariots Of Fire and Gossford Park? Come on...

You guys want great movies? KLM shows by far the best for any carrier. You name it, they show it, I've even seen Con Air, Alive (  Wow! ), lots of Stephan King movies on board. AC shows lots of great movies as well. LH, well, lets just say, I'll always have a book with me because I find their movies somewhat boring.

Just checking AC's website for this month, it sounds pretty good....
Fantastic 4
The Island
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Batman Begins
Mr. & Mrs.Smith
The Longest Yard

plus lots I've never heard of.
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