airplanetire
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Delta's ATL-LIM Service

Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:10 am

In June I will be flying on Delta flight 335 (ATL-LIM) and flight 274 (LIM-ATL) and I have a few questions about the flight. First of all, Delta sends their 764, the plane with the most seats in their fleet, to LIM. Is there high passenger demand to LIM or is it mostly cargo demand that justifies such a large plane? I remember that just about two years ago Delta was still sending the 757 to LIM. Second, is there much premium traffic? There is a very small first class cabin on Delta's 764 since they are currently configured for domestic operations, but my mom would like to use Skymiles to upgrade me and her if it is possible. Lastly, when will Delta begin reconfiguring the 764s and will LIM get an internationally configured aircraft by June? Thank you for your input!
 
flypdx
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RE: Delta's ATL-LIM Service

Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:12 am

Quoting Airplanetire (Thread starter):
Lastly, when will Delta begin reconfiguring the 764s and will LIM get an internationally configured aircraft by June?

They aren't exactly configuring them for international service right away. No Biz seats, international flights will be sold as all coach.
 
airplanetire
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RE: Delta's ATL-LIM Service

Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:12 am

Are the LIM flights sold as all coach now, or is that going to be something new for that flight? I thougth it was only going to be done for the new Ireland flights out of JFK and the new ATL-SNN flight.
 
dutchjet
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RE: Delta's ATL-LIM Service

Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:32 am

My understanding is that DL will use the 764ERs on select European routes and sell the flights as all Y since the 764s do not have a Biz Elite cabin....the domestic first seats will be allocated to premium Frequent Flyers and those paying full or close-to-full coach fares. (similiar to AA's approach on BOS-MAN with its 752s) This arrangement will be in effect for the near-term future (for as long a domestic configured 764s are flying transatlantic) and will be eliminated once the 764s are equipped with a BizElite interior (its also possible that the 764s will return to domestic flying after the summer schedule and not be re-configured.....some of the new DL transatlantic routes many only operate during the summer and/or DL will cut capacity over the Atlantic for the winter timetable as most airlines traditionally do - too soon to tell exactly what the plan is.)

As for ATL-LIM.....DL has always used domestic configuration aircraft on that route (as you point out, first the 752 and now the 764) and has never offered Biz Elite on the medium range ATL-LIM service. Thus, DL sells the domestic F seats as either F or J class (not sure which code they assign) and sitting in the front cabin requires a higher fare. Is it worth it (regardless of whether you pay for the upgrade in cash or miles)? Not really; while F class is always nicer that Y class, the F cabin on Delta's 764s only offers marginally more room that the Y class seats......its 6 across instead of 7 across and 38-39 inches of pitch compared to 31-33 inches of pitch. Inflight service is better in F (of course), but nothing special. DL's 764s, in their present configuration, are designed to move a lot of people over short to medium haul routes, and its eveident when you are on board. A look at seatguru.com may help you make a decision.

DL upgraded the ATL-LIM route to a 764 mainly due to high cargo demand, but pax numbers on the flight (from what I hear) are also rather good.
 
md90fan
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RE: Delta's ATL-LIM Service

Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:47 am

So there (DL) LIM flights have all economy seating?
http://www.devanwells.blogspot.com/
 
SJU767
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RE: Delta's ATL-LIM Service

Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:48 am

Delta sells seats as C class meaning business. Not to be confused by BizElite

1DL 335 C9 D9 I9 O9 Y9 ATLLIM 453P 1123P 764 0 T630
B9 M9 H9 Q9 K9 L9 U9 T9 N9
 
dutchjet
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RE: Delta's ATL-LIM Service

Mon Nov 28, 2005 3:51 am

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 4):
So there (DL) LIM flights have all economy seating?

No. They fly a 764 with a domestic style F class cabin and a Y class cabin.

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