BA84
Topic Author
Posts: 184
Joined: Thu Aug 05, 2004 2:36 am

KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 3:54 am

KLM 663 is at Gander. Can anyone find out why?

It's a scheduled flight from AMS to IAH.
 
dogfighter2111
Posts: 1867
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:02 am

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 4:02 am

Medical or MX emergency?

Maybe even just re-fuelling.

Thanks
Mike
 
ACDC8
Posts: 7172
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:56 pm

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:21 am

That's the PrivatAir B737 flight operating for KLM. I would think that it would be a tech stop or medical stop.
A Grumpy German Is A Sauerkraut
 
dutchjet
Posts: 7714
Joined: Sat Oct 14, 2000 6:13 am

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:37 am

This flight was just launched.......and it seems that we already have our first unscheduled fuel stop?!
 
klmcedric
Posts: 696
Joined: Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:19 pm

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:42 am

Or maybe it was denied to US airspace for another passport data problem?
 
MH017
Posts: 1473
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:17 am

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:10 am

All I know HB-JJA/KL0663 left around 50 minutes late ex AMS for technical reasons: guess the passengers will be VERY happy, first departing late and now with the stop in Canada as well  Wink
don't throw away tomorrow !
 
Checo77
Posts: 1263
Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:39 am

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:40 am

Quoting MH017 (Reply 5):
guess the passengers will be VERY happy, first departing late and now with the stop in Canada as well

More if they paid like USD4000 for their ticket. I would get angry as well. I guess KLM has to give them some kind of compensation.
Regards,
Adam
Czech Boeing lover living in Lima
 
ACDC8
Posts: 7172
Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2005 6:56 pm

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:46 am

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 6):
More if they paid like USD4000 for their ticket. I would get angry as well. I guess KLM has to give them some kind of compensation.

Why should an airline give one compensation for having to make an unplanned stop somewhere so the aircraft can continue safely onwards? So what if the aircraft was delayed 50 minutes in AMS, it happens, live with it.
A Grumpy German Is A Sauerkraut
 
cedarjet
Posts: 8101
Joined: Mon May 24, 1999 1:12 am

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 6:50 am

Since when did airlines give J class pax any compensation for a flight that arrives 2 hours late?
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
 
schipholjfk
Posts: 521
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:11 pm

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:12 pm

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 8):
Since when did airlines give J class pax any compensation for a flight that arrives 2 hours late?

Didn't EU pass some type of a law stating that passengers have to be compensated if their plane arrived so many hours late? I was even compensated for a Thalys ride from AMS to Paris Nord for being 3 hours late.
The fun of flying... love it !!!
 
spl
Posts: 156
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2003 7:55 am

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 1:22 pm

Now expected back at Schiphol from IAH today the 30th of November with around 1 hour and 20 minutes delay.


Groeten Martijn
 
sk601
Posts: 896
Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 11:46 pm

RE: KLM At Gander

Wed Nov 30, 2005 11:37 pm

Quoting Schipholjfk (Reply 9):

Didn't EU pass some type of a law stating that passengers have to be compensated if their plane arrived so many hours late?

Yes, there is indeed some kind of law..., however it's hardly possible to get a compensation for a delay or cancellation. There is something called SMALL PRINT. Airlines don't have to pay in case it's beyond the airlines control and according to the "small print" almost EVERYTHING is beyond the control of the airline. I had an issue with KL about a cancelled flight to AUA and got NO compensation, because the airplane had a technical problem (caused due to a lightning strike) and KL's small print states that it is beyond their control. Too bad....I must say though that I think that it's a kind of childish to demand all kinds of compensation for a delay....Whatever the airline will pay, you can never turn back time...it's and will always be lost...
I rather prefer a delay or rebooking (in case of cancellation) than an accident...

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 3):
This flight was just launched.......and it seems that we already have our first unscheduled fuel stop?!

It was NOT unscheduled. Before departure from AMS it showed the stop in Gander; so I guess it must have been a fuel stop.
 
romeomike
Posts: 35
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:06 pm

RE: KLM At Gander

Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:16 am

The aircraft actually went into Goose Bay(CYYR), not Gander. It was a medical emergency and required a brief fuel dump in order to facilitate landing
 
N1120A
Posts: 26467
Joined: Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:40 pm

RE: KLM At Gander

Thu Dec 01, 2005 1:22 am

Quoting RomeoMike (Reply 12):
required a brief fuel dump in order to facilitate landing

There is no fuel dump on the 737
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
 
User avatar
airbuseric
Posts: 3560
Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:24 am

RE: KLM At Gander

Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:14 am

It's now standing with some technical problems on a remote stand at AMS. Could this have something to do with this case? KLM Line Maintenance is working on it...

Rgds
Eric
"The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going"
 
romeomike
Posts: 35
Joined: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:06 pm

RE: KLM At Gander

Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:09 pm

Ahh, sorry... I misread. There was 747 flight that was in Goose for a medical diversion, I thought it was the same flight.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 33lspotter, 817Dreamliiner, 910A, AT72, Bing [Bot], CRJ900, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], jamesontheroad, jetblastdubai, jetmatt777, KarelXWB, lakeeffect, MGA86, msycajun, OldAeroGuy, Polot, quic330, seahawk, speedbored, StTim, tcaeyx, tjh8402, WIederling and 303 guests