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Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:37 pm

Finally they have done it.

The airline has made commitments for 16 advanced wide-body Boeing 777-300ER aircraft with purchase rights for 20 more.

It also made commitments to acquire three Airbus A330-300s to operate regional routes.

The 777-300ER's will be acquired through a combination of 12 direct purchases from The Boeing Company and four operating leases from International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC). The three new A330-300s will also be acquired via operating leases from ILFC.

The 777-300ER will be powered by General Electric GE90-115B engines and the Airbus A330-300 by the Rolls-Royce Trent 700. The 16 777-300ERs will be delivered between September 2007 and July 2010. All three Airbus A330-300s will be delivered in 2008.

Cathay Pacific's fleet currently totals 95 aircraft. Its long-haul fleet comprises 22 Boeing 747-400, 15 Airbus A340-300 and three Airbus A340-600. The regional fleet comprises 16 Boeing 777-200/300 and 26 Airbus A330-300 aircraft. The airline also operates 13 Boeing 747 freighters.

http://www.cathaypacific.com/intl/ab...utcx/press/0,,31342-132261,00.html

[Edited 2005-12-01 09:59:50]
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Option

Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:43 pm

Official link?

Great news for the 777 program.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:49 pm

Quoting Bjornstrom (Reply 1):
Official link?

Congratulations to CX, Boeing and Airbus.

It is interesting to note that 5 out of top 10 world's best go for 773ER. Hope the rest will follow soon, Particularly QF.

http://www.cathaypacific.com/intl/aboutcx/press/0,,,00.html

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[Edited 2005-12-01 10:02:26]
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 5:55 pm

congrats for both boeing and Cathay pacific... as they already stated earlier, it will be the leading aircraft in the fleet wich will replace the A340-300's (also think 600's at the end) and 747-400's....

although airbus plans to come with a much better A340-600, by the time they have designed it the 777-300ER will be even better... thus the fact that it has 2 engines makes it cheaper for maintenance.... the 777 won in this sector..
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:02 pm

Great news for CX. However I still like the 2 seats that Airbus offer over the 3 in a Boeing.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:07 pm

Finally! Great news for Cathay Pacific and Boeing. The 773ER is having a great year, Improved performance statistics since EIS have given the program a massive order boost.

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:20 pm

Great news for Boeing indeed!

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:25 pm

Does this mean a strategic change?
Long haul on two engines? If the 340 goes this will be the case.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:31 pm

Way to go Boeing and CX. Now when will boeings annoucement come?
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:32 pm

AC is already the precedent in replacing quads (A340s) with their B777 order.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:37 pm

Fantastic news wonder if they will replace 343/744 on JNB route with 773
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:52 pm

Great news!

So I wonder what the main routes will be and what sort of seating configuration they will have?
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:54 pm

Quoting Sq212 (Reply 2):
Particularly QF

Agreed!

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:04 pm

This is definitely great news for the 777-300ER program!

Rising fuel costs and improved fuel efficiency will make the -300ER even more appealing.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:41 pm

This is great for the 777-300ER program. Like the 777-300, Asia-Pacific is turning out to be the primary market for the 777-300ER.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:52 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 14):
This is great for the 777-300ER program. Like the 777-300, Asia-Pacific is turning out to be the primary market for the 777-300ER.
EK, QR, AI, PK, 9W, SQ, CX, BR, JL, NH and maybe QF.

That is a pretty impressive list of carriers, isn't it?

Quoting Aerosol (Reply 7):
To add: no hardware differentiation from singapore airlines on longhaul.

Differentiation is fine as long as it isn't going to increase your cost of owning and operating aircraft or as long as it brings additional revenue.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:15 pm

I´m disappointed. Should they replace the 744 on the FRA route with the ugly long sausage CX has just lost a client.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:16 pm

Quoting Aerosol (Reply 7):
To add: no hardware differentiation from singapore airlines on longhaul.

Think SIA has a few A380-800s on order that should fly by the time those 777-300ER join CX's fleet.

Great news for Boeing and Cathay. The 777-300ER is truly an early 747 replacement and comes close to being a 747-400 one.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:35 pm

Quoting NA (Reply 16):
Should they replace the 744 on the FRA route with the ugly long sausage CX has just lost a client.

I don't think this should come very soon. My guess would be that the 747-400 will fly to FRA until at least 2010 due to the slot problems FRA is facing. If CX biggest bird will turn out to be the 773ER(which we don't know), yes then after 2010 i think we can expect the 773ER. In my opinion, the 773ER is a beautiful airplane anyways but thats just personal opinion.

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:33 pm

Looks like the A340 is indeed on the green mile at Cathay Pacific.

So the fleet will look like 777-300ER/777-300/777-200/A330-300 in a not too distant future. I'm a bit surprised they are adding A330-300s rather than 777-200s though. A330s must have been dirt cheap.

Remains to be seen whether they will buy a few 747-8 Intercontinental or A380s although I really only see LHR as being a candidate route.

Yet it seems they have decided to go the frequency way since they're adding a 4th daily run on LHR these days. 4 daily 777-300ER surely can fill in for 2 daily 747-400 and 2 daily A340-300. Guess they think they can grow with even more frequency in the future.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:38 pm

Congrats 777-300ER, Cathay, Boeing and ILFC. I would really like to know what goes on in the final 2 weeks of an aircraft procurement process at an airline. It must be crazy.

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:01 pm

I don't think the A330-300s were "dirt cheap" as quoted by BrightCedars. If you refer to any CX related articles involving the A330 you will note that they are very happy with this aircraft.

The A330 provides CX with ideal economics on routes throughout the Asia Pacific region as well as from memory, excellent belly cargo capabilities for night-time cargo only flights.

Anyway, congratulations to Boeing on securing this order for the B777-300ER which has proven to be an ideal aircraft for long haul operations.

[Edited 2005-12-01 14:10:49]
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:02 pm

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 19):
Remains to be seen whether they will buy a few 747-8 Intercontinental or A380s although I really only see LHR as being a candidate route.

FRA would also need one. When I flew CX744s they were always full.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:08 pm

I wonder if any of the optons will be for the 772???
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:09 pm

Quoting Jakob77 (Reply 9):
AC is already the precedent in replacing quads (A340s) with their B777 order.

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, SQ took the first step by replacing their A343s with B777-200ERs back in 1999.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:10 pm

When CX gets the 777-300ER, I expect them to replace the 747-400 on all non-transpacific long-range flights except HKG-LHR. The 744's will then be assigned primarily on transpacific flights plus HKG-LHR.

As for future larger airliners, I think CX wants to find out how well the A380-800 does in fuel burn now that by the end of this year we'll probably have four test planes flying. If Airbus can demonstrate 8,000 nautical mile still-air range at standard MTOW for the A388, don't be surprised that CX works out a deal with ILFC on a long-term lease to get as many as 4-5 A388's for use on the routes from HKG to LAX, YVR/YYZ, maybe SFO and LHR.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:30 pm

Another link form the newswires:

http://money.iwon.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt...eed=dji&date=20051201&cat=INDUSTRY

Great news, but I was a little surprised they didnt order the A-350 or 787 and went for the 330 instead. Was this expected?
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:35 pm

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 26):
Another link form the newswires:

http://money.iwon.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt...eed=dji&date=20051201&cat=INDUSTRY

Great news, but I was a little surprised they didnt order the A-350 or 787 and went for the 330 instead. Was this expected?

It's just a supplemental order, not a replacement or major expansion order.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:45 pm

>> Great news, but I was a little surprised they didnt order the A-350 or 787 and went for the 330 instead. Was this expected? <<

Note: they also didn't order the 777-200LR along with their GE-powered -300ERs.

They want new Airbuses in their fleet for a reason. i.e. Perhaps to lead-into an eventual A350 purchase, and, who knows -- a 10,000nm A340 ULR around 2011 timeframe?

Certainly, as things stand right now, Boeing's 777-300ER is on a roll at the moment. No doubt about it. But these things go in cycles, and I wouldn't count Airbus out just yet.

Also note that CX's existing B777-200 & -300 'classics' will be averaging an age of 12 years in 2011 -- with the oldest being 17 years by then, so they will need to be replaced at around that time, -- when the B777 just might not 'cut it' any more.  Wink

Oh, and there's also the A380, which I'm sure we'll see one day in Cathay's colours (esp. since practically every other operator in the region will have them).

[Edited 2005-12-01 15:02:01]
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:58 pm

Quoting Zeus419 (Reply 28):

They want new Airbuses in their fleet for a reason. i.e. Perhaps to lead-into an eventual A350 purchase, and, who knows -- a 10,000nm A340 ULR around 2011 timeframe?

Don't get your hopes up...3 airplanes is just an add-on as was already stated. They have (at least publically) no plans to replace the 777-200A/A330-300 at this time.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:58 pm

Quoting N754PR (Reply 4):
Great news for CX. However I still like the 2 seats that Airbus offer over the 3 in a Boeing.

Couldn't agree with you more !
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:03 pm

I believe that CX in 2 to 3 years time will be looking at replacing the 772/A330s with the 787/A350. Look for another order then. Boeing may have the upper hand in that contest on the virture of today's order.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:04 pm

Congratulations to Cathy Pacific, Boeing and Airbus. But the big winner here is GE, who has made a significant inroad into what is traditionally a big RR customer.
Nice order for all concerned. I think this bodes well for Boeing as this may shed some light into what we can expect from Qantas next week. Time will tell. The 777-300ER is simply a gorgeous aircraft and will look terrific in both CX and QF livery!

[Edited 2005-12-01 15:07:59]
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:08 pm

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 19):
Looks like the A340 is indeed on the green mile at Cathay Pacific.

In my opinion, it's far more likely that CX will get rid of their B772 than the A343. The A343 is a far more important part of their fleet than the B772 is. They've got 15 A343s and only five B772s.

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 19):
I'm a bit surprised they are adding A330-300s rather than 777-200s though.

Firstly, they have many more A333s than B772s in their fleet already. Secondly, I think I read somewhere that CX isn't too happy with their B772. In my opinion, the B772 was never meant to be a regional airplane, but a long-range airplane.

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 26):
Great news, but I was a little surprised they didnt order the A-350 or 787 and went for the 330 instead.

Read the press release again. The A333s will be delivered in 2008. I'm sure that even Dhefty (are you reading this?) would agree with me that Airbus does not have any slots available for A350 deliveries in 2008!  Wink
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:11 pm

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 19):
I'm a bit surprised they are adding A330-300s rather than 777-200s though. A330s must have been dirt cheap.

CX loves A330s for their regional routes. Regional routes in Asia are mostly high density, medium range routes, which is perfect for A333, even better than the 772/773s CX currently have, IMHO.

CX made a smart choice to go with 773ERs, but I'm surprised they didn't order more. The new 773ERs will definitely replace the A346s they leased, what other planes will they replace? A343s? How many A343s does CX have? Plus, 773ER is not exactly in the same market segment as A343 as 773ER carries a lot more passengers and flies longer than A343s.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:12 pm

Quoting Zeus419 (Reply 28):
Note: they also didn't order the 777-200LR along with their GE-powered -300ERs

What routes do they need them on? As far as I knew, ULH aircraft were not on the horizon for CX.

Quoting Zeus419 (Reply 28):
They want new Airbuses in their fleet for a reason. i.e. Perhaps to lead-into an eventual A350 purchase, and, who knows -- a 10,000nm A340 ULR around 2011 timeframe?

Yes, I'm sure those 3 leased A330s are a huge indicator of things to come, more so than the 26 that CX already operates, 23 of which they own.   

If anything, leasing aircraft is a sign of less commitment to the aircraft type. That said, with the huge existing commitment to the A330 and A340, CX has a lot of pilots who will be able to jump relatively easily to the A350. That will be a factor in the A350/787 competition.

Quoting FlyingHippo (Reply 34):
CX made a smart choice to go with 773ERs, but I'm surprised they didn't order more

Well they have options for 20. No doubt they will be looking at what the competition is up to. A lot of long haul capacity is entering the region, and no one wants to get caught with too much capacity.

[Edited 2005-12-01 15:18:00]
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:13 pm

I hope I get a chance to visit Everett, Washington again in the next couple of years. The sheer variety of 777 customers will make the ramp by the Boeing plant a very cool sight to see. In the war between Airbus and Boeing (and war is the right analogy), Boeing has won a major battle. With the exception of a handful of (respectable size) A346 fleets, the 773ER has become dominant in its class.

Quoting NA (Reply 16):
I´m disappointed. Should they replace the 744 on the FRA route with the ugly long sausage CX has just lost a client.

Since it has fewer seats...that may just work out for everyone.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:15 pm

So why is CX going to lease 4 777-300ER's and buy 12. Is that because ILFC has access to earlier available production slots?

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:21 pm

Quoting Atmx2000 (Reply 35):
CX has a lot of pilots who will be able to jump relatively easily to the A350. That will be a factor in the A350/787 competition.

Same could be said about CX has a lot of 777 pilots ready to jump into 787 as well, I believe the transition was 5 days?

After reading a few more replies in this thread, I do believe the classic 777s in CX's fleet will be replaced first, and A343 will be around for a while for long/thin routes that CX operates.

So, CX fleet will look like this in a few years:

A333/343, B773ER, B747/F. (Maybe 747-8I)

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:28 pm

In my opinion, it's far more likely that CX will get rid of their B772 than the A343. The A343 is a far more important part of their fleet than the B772 is. They've got 15 A343s and only five B772s.


wouldnt make sense... the 777-300ER's arent orderd for regional routes, but for europe, midle east , and other long haul flights... Since the 777-200 are only used for domestic routes (most if not all are non ER) and rairly go to japan or other asian country's. the A330 will take over the role of the 777 domestic eventually where the 777-300ER will do the same with A340 and 747..

but dont think this prder will replace lots of aircraft, since there hasn't been talking about CX ordering it for replacement.. China is a grow market wich needs more aircraft..
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:28 pm

Quoting Zeus419 (Reply 28):
They want new Airbuses in their fleet for a reason. i.e. Perhaps to lead-into an eventual A350 purchase, and, who knows -- a 10,000nm A340 ULR around 2011 timeframe?

They don't need a 10k+ nm aircraft. A 773ER can basically fly everywhere they want from HKG. With this 773ER order, CX is already set on setting the 773ER as the primary long-haul aircraft down the road.

Quoting RedChili (Reply 33):
Firstly, they have many more A333s than B772s in their fleet already. Secondly, I think I read somewhere that CX isn't too happy with their B772. In my opinion, the B772 was never meant to be a regional airplane, but a long-range airplane.

The 772As CX have are non-ER versions and thus are only limited to regional flights.



I think the A330s will continue to be the regional workhorse with the handful of 3-class A333s continue to be deployed onto Australian routes. B772/773As on Middle East and regional trunk routes that needs to extra capacity over the A330s and the ERs taking over the 744s/346s/343s eventually to simplify the long-haul fleet.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:52 pm

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 39):
wouldnt make sense... the 777-300ER's arent orderd for regional routes, but for europe, midle east , and other long haul flights... Since the 777-200 are only used for domestic routes (most if not all are non ER) and rairly go to japan or other asian country's. the A330 will take over the role of the 777 domestic eventually where the 777-300ER will do the same with A340 and 747..

Actually, the B772 is not used on any domestic routes. It's mostly used on routes to India and the Middle East. The A333/A359 would have almost the same capacity as the B772 on those routes. I really believe that CX won't be holding on to those five frames for a very long time.

Quoting Jakob77 (Reply 40):
The 772As CX have are non-ER versions and thus are only limited to regional flights.

Yes, that was what I implied in my reply also. And in my opinion, the A333 does that job much better. And CX apparently agrees, since they're adding A333s the whole time, but no follow-up orders for the B772.
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Option

Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:05 am

I remember that some of the analysts were saying that this was going to be the easiest order (out of CX, QF and SQ) for Airbus to land since CX already had a fair number of 340s, QF is eyeing the 772LR greedily and SQ is already the world's largest operator of the 777.

Between EK's comments last week about Airbus missing targets (which might be about the A380 or might be about the A340) plus the defection of another bellwether client in CX, Airbus must be realizing that 4 engine jets with their higher maintenance costs and fuel costs are no longer practical.

On Boeing's side, the order for 3 333s (leases) really should make them greenlight a 787-10 order. The 773ER and 772LR have done the heavy lifting for the 777 and are quite sufficient in itself to keep the line open. Putting a large 787-10 option out there will lock down more sales from the international carriers.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:06 am

Quoting RedChili (Reply 41):
Actually, the B772 is not used on any domestic routes. It's mostly used on routes to India and the Middle East. The A333/A359 would have almost the same capacity as the B772 on those routes. I really believe that CX won't be holding on to those five frames for a very long time.

CX doesn't have any "domestic routes" much like SQ doesn't neither. Even though HK is part of China, HK and China are 2 totally separate entities when negotiating for traffic rights.

Quoting RedChili (Reply 41):
Yes, that was what I implied in my reply also. And in my opinion, the A333 does that job much better. And CX apparently agrees, since they're adding A333s the whole time, but no follow-up orders for the B772.

CX did contemplate selling the 772s but the 772s are fitted with small cargo loading doors thus limiting their residual value. They've since decided to keep them and CX has found a use for them on Middle East routes.
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:14 am

Quoting RedChili (Reply 33):
In my opinion, it's far more likely that CX will get rid of their B772 than the A343. The A343 is a far more important part of their fleet than the B772 is. They've got 15 A343s and only five B772s.



Quoting Jakob77 (Reply 40):
With this 773ER order, CX is already set on setting the 773ER as the primary long-haul aircraft down the road

According to CX, Jakob is correct:

“Whatever we choose will become the core of our long-haul fleet,” [COO Tony Tyler] says. “They will eventually replace the [Boeing] 747-400s and the [Airbus] A340-300s and that in itself is about a 40-aircraft replacement task. We’ll also need some growth. Therefore, whoever wins this order has that potential sales stream locked in for years.”

http://www.flightinternational.com/A...y+Cathay+Pacific+order+battle.html

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:18 am

Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 19):
I'm a bit surprised they are adding A330-300s rather than 777-200s though. A330s must have been dirt cheap.

Why? Otherwise Cathay wouldn't have bought them? These three make Cathay the second biggest (after NW) operator of the A330 in the world. They like the A333!

Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 26):
I was a little surprised they didnt order the A-350 or 787 and went for the 330 instead.

Why would they add a new type when they already have a large fleet of a plane they're very happy with? No doubt the 787 or A350 will come in time. But there's no rush.

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 32):
But the big winner here is GE, who has made a significant inroad into what is traditionally a big RR customer.

True.

Quoting MauriceB (Reply 39):
Since the 777-200 are only used for domestic routes

Like HKG to, er, HKG???
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Option

Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:19 am

Im so glad boeing lovers aren't shoving any anti-A340 sentiment in anybodys faces. You guys are being really good about this. ^__^

Thanks, and CONGRATS TO BOEING!

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:38 am

Quoting USAF336TFS (Reply 32):
But the big winner here is GE, who has made a significant inroad into what is traditionally a big RR customer.

Absolutely !  cheerful 

Makes me wonder if having more GE engines in there inventory may increase the chases for CX to go for the 747-8 someday ?

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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:47 am

will they go with 6 or 7 across for bizclass??
 
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RE: Official CX Orders 16 777-300ER Plus 20 Options

Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:49 am

Quoting RedChili (Reply 33):
Quoting BrightCedars (Reply 19):
Looks like the A340 is indeed on the green mile at Cathay Pacific.

In my opinion, it's far more likely that CX will get rid of their B772 than the A343. The A343 is a far more important part of their fleet than the B772 is. They've got 15 A343s and only five B772s.

This is obviously why they ordered so many 777 today...they are an "unimportant" component of the fleet....  Yeah sure

Quoting AirFrnt (Reply 42):
Between EK's comments last week about Airbus missing targets (which might be about the A380 or might be about the A340) plus the defection of another bellwether client in CX, Airbus must be realizing that 4 engine jets with their higher maintenance costs and fuel costs are no longer practical.

One would think so. That is likely the reason for the 350-900 size, to more effectively compete with the 777.
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