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Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:14 am

The first interior upgrades were on the MD-88s. Then upgrades were made on the 757s.

Does anyone know which aircraft will have their interior upgraded next, after that, and so on? I would think that the 767-300s or 767-300ERs would be next. I would guess that the 737-800s, 767-400s, or 777s will probably be last, as they are newer aircraft.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 6:52 am

At this point I think it might be up in the air. Although the domestic 763's really need an upgrade, they are slated to be upgraded with PTV's as DL moves toward a song-style service on all flights over 1750 miles. In that case, I would assume they would wait until they decide how to integrate that onto them.

I will say that I flew 4 segments on DL the week of thanksgiving SEA-ATL-AUA-ATL-SEA. SEA-ATL and AUA-ATL were on 757's that had the new interior. Honestly, I wasn't too impressed. While the cabins certainly looked much better than before, the seats weren't very comfortable (however the brighter interiors were welcome). ATL-SEA was on a domestic 763 that looked very old and could use a new interior ASAP. ATL-AUA was on a 738 which in my opinion had the nicest interior. Even though the seats were cloth, they were much more comfortable than the 757. DL could take a cue from AS, which in my opinion has very comfortable leather seats.

I do hope that when DL upgrades the widebody interiors, that they will put in the winged headrests. Those make a big difference when trying to sleep, especially given that they no longer have pillows.
 
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:39 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 1):
Honestly, I wasn't too impressed. While the cabins certainly looked much better than before, the seats weren't very comfortable (however the brighter interiors were welcome).

The last time I flew DL a few months back it was on an 88 that had the new interior. While it certainly looked nice - and that may have been simply because it was new and anything new generally looks good - I wasn't that impressed. And, like you, I too thought the seats weren't as comfortable.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:50 am

I was recently on a Delta MD-90 with the new interior. I don't know if they've done them all yet, but I know N911DA has been done.

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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:04 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 1):
I do hope that when DL upgrades the widebody interiors, that they will put in the winged headrests. Those make a big difference when trying to sleep, especially given that they no longer have pillows.

That would require a replacement seat frame. The upgrades simply add a new enclosure and new cushions. BTW the 767-400ERs and 777-200ERs have winged headrests.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:06 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
That would require a replacement seat frame. The upgrades simply add a new enclosure and new cushions. BTW the 767-400ERs and 777-200ERs have winged headrests.

Right. I guess my point is that I'd rather see them wait and do it right than do a cheapo half-assed fix. Additionally, since PTVs are coming to the 757s and domestic 763s, they will probably need new seats anyway. This would be a good time to upgrade them.
 
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:53 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
BTW the 767-400ERs and 777-200ERs have winged headrests.

i'm pretty sure some 738s and 757s have them too.
 
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:31 pm

Quoting WidgetBoi (Reply 6):
i'm pretty sure some 738s and 757s have them too.

I am not sure about that. I have heard that some of the newest 767-300ERs have them.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:39 pm

I was on a MD88 with the new seating last week.... terrible, IMO.

Ugly - They looked like they were for flying tourists off some caribbean island while still wearing their wet bathing suits from the beach. We had a little A/C problem just before take-off and it was HOT in there. Don't like the colors either.

Comfort - They are ok IMO. It sticks to you, especially when hot. And they feel like rubber, not leather.

I liked the old B762 I flew on my way to LGA better.

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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 2:59 pm

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 7):
I am not sure about that.

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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:56 pm

I flew ONT-ATL two weeks ago on a DL 763 Domestic with the new interior (not that song-style interior). It was a nice surprise.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:14 pm

Quoting WidgetBoi (Reply 9):
knew i wasn't crazy

For the 738s and 757s headrests its hit or miss and from experience, i think a fair amount of 738s do, but very few 757s, ive only flown 1 or 2 that had them out of 20-30 757 flights.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:23 am

With 1 billion in losses just posted they need to put their finances in order before experimenting w/onboard concepts. Song's interiors are great and the "new" MD80s cabin(s) look nice too. It seems DL needs to make up its mind on what it wants to implement rather than "hitting or missing the point"...which is costing them money (alleged money they cry not having)

You could have all the enhancements you want onboard but take care of your people (employees) too...look at their latest battle w/the pilots! I am not guessing who's right or wrong but that doesn't help either...employee morale, like in most US carriers, is not in good shape and that is critical for long-term survival. Some passengers do care for amenities, especially on long-haul but bottom line is paxs want a low fare and somewhat decent service or to a level of what you paid for...most average travelers do not want luxury but the lowest fare (at least US domestically).
 
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:05 am

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 11):
For the 738s and 757s headrests its hit or miss and from experience, i think a fair amount of 738s do, but very few 757s, ive only flown 1 or 2 that had them out of 20-30 757 flights.

I think all 737-800s do. With 757s, I think only aircraft reg. N6700-N6716C have the adjustable headrests, all of which are currently with Song.

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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:35 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 13):
I think all 737-800s do.

No, I flew on a 737-800 last summer, and it did not have the headrests.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sun Dec 04, 2005 11:54 am

I flew on 4 MD-88s in First Class last week, all had the new interior. I must say that I did find it a little more comfortable than the old interior on an MD-88's First Class.

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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:34 pm

I've been on several short Delta flights with the "new and improved" interiors. Eh. The interiors are definitely brighter, the seat are not as dingy, but the scuffed, battered look is still there. And while the pseudo-wood floor in the toilets, complete with urine droplets, impressed my 17 year old last week, it didn't impress me.

Considering the billions of dollars Delta loves to blow quarterly (please, don't hand me this garbage about fuel costs, they have added a fuel "supplement" to their fares to more than cover the cost of gas), why not blow just a little bit more, fix up those dilapidated jets, give the passengers some real creature comforts, put back the friggen tables cloths in first, along with a real glass (god forbid!), and provide food rather than the half oz of peanuts or 1 bag of sunchips (not bad, actually), even if it has to be bought in economy, and pretend you are actually providing your customers with a service they aren't going to get with Southwest, or Continental, or AirTran, and MAYBE, just maybe, passengers might actually WANT to fly with you again, rather than be stuck with you. But then again, Delta never misses an opportunity to piss off their best paying customers.

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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:37 pm

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 13):
I think all 737-800s do.

I flew last week on a 738, ATL-AUA, and it didn't have the winged headrests. That said, the plane was in great condition and I thought the interior looked better than the "new" interior.
 
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:32 am

Next up is the 737-800. The first one comes in about two weeks from now. The later delivered -800 and 757's had the new winged headrests. I don't know if they are planning on retrofitting them all to that style.
 
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:43 am

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 12):
With 1 billion in losses just posted they need to put their finances in order before experimenting w/onboard concepts.

That's a commonly held concept which is keeping these people in bankruptcy.

They need to be differentiating, increasing brand value and loyalty, and increasing revenue. NOT just cutting costs.

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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:04 am

Quoting WidgetBoi (Reply 6):
i'm pretty sure some 738s and 757s have them too.

The headrests were removed from the 738's when the thinner seatbacks were installed. All of the 757's that had them were converted to Song and they were removed.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting Dl_mech (Reply 20):
The headrests were removed from the 738's when the thinner seatbacks were installed.

For the life of me, I can't understand why they would do this. I would rather see all the new seats have headrests than have leather seats. DL does need to stop fooling w/ their brand...they need to find something that works and stick w/ it. What are they going to do w/ the Song 757 seats?? Are they going to keep the multi-colors or replace those too? That seems like a huge waste of money to me if they are going to replace them also with the all blue seats.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Mon Dec 05, 2005 11:35 am

While probably unlikely, lets just hope they keep them on the 767-400ERs and 777s.
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RE: Timeline For Delta Interior Upgrades

Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:07 pm

DL's new interiors make the cabin look a lot brighter and is most definately an improvement. I was on 2 MD-88s in April that had them and I found the seats to be comfortable. The wooden floors in the bathroom I never understood, but thats cool I guess.....

Winged headrests for me make all the difference when flying. CO and AA have them, and for taller people the headrests are a godsend for long flights. I'm not sure why DL got rid of them in favor of thinner seatbacks (cost maybe? or Song PTV installation)

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