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viasa
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Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Mon Dec 05, 2005 12:51 am

All commercial used planes from Venezuela had the registration YV-xxxC (in 2, 3 or 4 digits).

Now I have found a lot of re-registrated aircraft, they wear now YVxxxT registrations

Here is the list of the aircraft I found:


  • YV115T: DC-9-30 of Aserca (red cs)
  • YV130T: MD-80 of Aeropostal (old cs)
  • YV131T: MD-80 of Aeropostal (old cs)
  • YV133T: MD-80 of Aeropostal (new cs)
  • YV134T: MD-80 of Aeropostal (new cs)
  • YV137T: DC-9-50 of Aeropostal (old cs)
  • YV138T: DC-9-50 of Aeropostal (new cs)
  • YV142T: DC-9-?? of Aeropostal (old cs)
  • YV167T: DC-9-30 of Laser


Why they change the registrations?
 
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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:53 am

I can't come up with an abbreviation, can you? C is for commercial, P for private (a lot of those in Venezuela). Did they run out of numbers maybe?
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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:11 am

I have no clue. Maybe T stands for Tourism? Just a wild idea.. Maybe CivilAv can shed a light on this.


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viasa
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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Mon Dec 05, 2005 2:43 am

Quoting Luisde8cd (Reply 2):
Maybe T stands for Tourism? Just a wild idea..

Or it could stand for Transport...

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 1):
Did they run out of numbers maybe?

No, all new T-Birds were former registrated with a C.
 
Chiguire
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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Mon Dec 05, 2005 5:15 am

T is for "temporal", afterwards it changes to the correct ending, C, P, CP etc. Most of the above mentioned VH aircraft already have the "C" ending, except 134T. The rest is 01C to 06C. Don't know about the others.

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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:53 am

I told the "T" is used when an aircraft is leased before being registered in Venezuela itself. I took this photos in CUR a while ago:


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It's funny to see this registration type if you're used to the "C" ending. Howl long ago has this "T" registration been used. I've never seen this until now.

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757MDE
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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:41 am

So it's like the analog to the Colombian "X"
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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:52 am

VIASA,

Quoting 757MDE (Reply 6):
So it's like the analog to the Colombian "X"

Venezuela civil aviation directorate changed, effective January 1975, its system of registering aircraft. Many of you may recall the typical "YV-C-VIA" for instance of Viasa's first Convair-88022M. To make things more orderly, a number was subsituted after the YV-prefix followed by any of the following letters:
C: Commercial (intended for public service)
CP: Commercial but for private service only (like a company plane)
P: Private
G: Government
E: For training from the Spanish "Escuela"
X: Experimental

There was never a T considered then.

With so many aircraft leased, (like occurred with VIASA's 1 DC-10 which, for many years until it was finally totally paid, flew as PH-DTG) it has become apparent that it is necessary to have them with a Venezuelan "Temporary" registration pending either full purchase or else, a return to the lessor.

So, to address the issue, yes T is analogous to the Colombian "X" suffix in use since the early 70 when Avianca began a fleet procurement plan with leased aeroplanes.

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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:49 am

Quoting Civilav (Reply 7):
So, to address the issue, yes T is analogous to the Colombian "X" suffix in use since the early 70 when Avianca began a fleet procurement plan with leased aeroplanes.

Thanks for the confirmation!
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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:02 pm

Quite a few countries have their official aircraft register online to access, does Venezuela have one? I can't find it anywhere.

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RE: Venezuela: From YV-xxxC To YVxxxT

Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:17 am

I post my answer a second time - it was deleted by a forum moderator. Now it's without a (single) link to JP.net....

Here we go:

Here are all registration with links:

YV115T:
MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © Daniel Roa


YV130T:
MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © e.wolff


YV131T:
MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © Alexander Calderon Angulo


YV133T: picture you can see on JP.net

YV134T:
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Photo © Roger Cannegieter


YV137T:
MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © E.WOLFF


YV138T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Daniel Roa


YV142T:
MyAviation.net photo:
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Photo © Manuel Ernesto Silva


YV167T:
MyAviation.net photo:
Click here for bigger photo!
Photo © Manuel Ernesto Silva



I'm sure that all this aircraft had a C-registration before. It make no sense to change the registration to a temporary regi and than switch back to YV-xxxC.

And by the way, all the T-registration are seen between October 2005 and now.

The thing about the Viasa DC-10 are an other story. This planes (5 aircrafts, not sure) were leased from a dutch company (linked with KLM) - sorry I can't remember the name of this company.

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