sevenforeseven
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Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:09 am

Hi fellow a/netters please can someone advise me if it is possible to visit Mojave aircraft graveyard as I would love to go there and pay my respects.
I thank you all for your input.
 
B742
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:53 am

Yep its possible to visit the Mojave Aircraft graveyard, but you cannot get into the actual airport  Smile

I visited Mojave last summer, it was great  Smile

You can drive around the airport, but cannot access where the aircraft are kept.

If you want to do photography then you must have a long range lense (300mm+) as the aircraft can be far away!

There is a cafe where you can stand on the apron and take shots, but the aircraft are quite a way away!

If I was you I would either rent an airplane and see Mojave from above or just take a car and drive around the airport!

It is possible at some places to get quite close to the aircraft!

If you cross the railroad then you can get quite close to some of the larger aircraft such as the VS 742's  Smile

There are more topics on Mojave in the past, take a look  Smile

Have fun!  Smile

Also if you are in the area you could also visit Kingman (AZ) where some aircraft are stored such as TWA L1011's  Smile

You should also take a look at Tuscon (AZ), there is a military graveyard with bus tours and a museum with civil and military aircraft including the Air Force One 707 and Blackbird  Smile
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sk601
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:59 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 1):
but you cannot get into the actual airport

I have been to MHV last year, and you CAN get in. We just went to the administrative office next to the ATC tower and asked about it. For $5,- p.p. we got a 1,5 hour tour with a minivan.
 
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:03 am

Quoting SK601 (Reply 2):

I have been to MHV last year, and you CAN get in. We just went to the administrative office next to the ATC tower and asked about it. For $5,- p.p. we got a 1,5 hour tour with a minivan.

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I couldn't get in when I went  Sad Although that was 2 yrs ago

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leelaw
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:09 am

I understand that airport management is no longer encouraging the practice of the fuelers giving tours in their "spare time." I'd call ahead before making the trip up there.
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jumbojet
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:11 am

I had gone a year or so ago. The staff at Mojave were very friendly and I got a guided tour of the facility in a van. No charge. Took me around in a van, lasted about an hour or so. Check it out, call ahead or just show up. good luck
 
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:16 am

I had no problem getting a van tour (two adults, two kids) this past September. It is subject to the fueler's availability, so be prepared to wait. Having a bite to eat in the Voyager Restaurant is highly recommended.
 
vegasplanes
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:18 am

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 5):
Check it out, call ahead or just show up. good luck

Do you have the phone number for MHV to post, it would be great to call ahead and make reservations.  Wink
 
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 5:19 am

As has been said, most all of the aircraft storage facilities are restricted access and do not allow you on the grounds. If you look at nearly all the photos in the data base they are either taken from great distance, or from a fly over. Some lucky few have gain access, but that seems to be few are far between. But of all of them, I think MHV is the only place that does allow tours, but as has been said it sounds like they are getting away from doing them. Even with the van tour last I remembered reading you are not allowed off the van. Recently a few members of the company I work for had to go out to the Mojave on business and even then they were restriced to where they could go... and they held SIDA badges..!!

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ALB2ATL
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:04 am

I visited Mohave July 04. I was in LA for the Airliners Int'l (?) convention and toured Mohave (up close and personal). It was a good time, but we kept getting in trouble for getting too close to the a/c. There were a lot of US, KLM & Hawaiin a/c.
 
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:26 am

When I went in Dec 03 I was taken around by security . Even got to go up in the tower.
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BigOrange
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:26 am

I got a tour in July when I was there. Just stopped by the admin office and some guy took me out in a van.

The charge was $5 and took you all round the airport. Unfortunately they no longer allow the drivers to go off the taxiways, so you can't get up close to the aircraft any more.

If you go to www.mojaveairport.com you will find the following information.

Tours of the main flight line are periodically available. Reservations in advance are required, and may be made by calling the airport administration office (661-824-2433) or by email tours@mojaveairport.com.
 
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:29 am

I plan on visiting MHV this winter. I will be at IFP for almost 3 months so I will be making visits to IGM too! Anyone want to meet up drop me a line.
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leelaw
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RE: Mojave Visits

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:15 am

Quoting BigOrange (Reply 11):
Tours of the main flight line are periodically available. Reservations in advance are required, and may be made by calling the airport administration office (661-824-2433) or by email tours@mojaveairport.com.

Out of curiosity, I just called the phone number and was told the procedure remains the same despite what's indicated above:

-No advance reservations are accepted, tours are still conducted on an ad hoc basis, dependent on the availability of the staff. Those seeking a tour should check in at the administration office upon arrival and be prepared to wait until staff (most likely an aircraft fueler) is available to conduct a tour in an airport vehicle.

-Hours are approximately 8:00AM to 3:30PM 7 days a week. (Lunch is 12:00PM to 1:00PM).

-Charge is $5 per person payable to the staff member conducting the tour (a nice gratuity will probably enhance your experience  Wink).
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BigOrange
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RE: Mojave Visits

Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:08 am

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 13):
Out of curiosity, I just called the phone number and was told the procedure remains the same despite what's indicated above:

Maybe the airport manager realized it wasn't working that way and backed down on it.

-Charge is $5 per person payable to the staff member conducting the tour (a nice gratuity will probably enhance your experience

You pay for the tour at the end, so the gratuity doesn't make any difference.

The drivers have to take a set route, because of insurance reasons, but it's still worth doing. I gave the driver a tip equal to the tour cost, because I felt that if this ever became a commercial tour the cost would probably increase to 4 times that amount, plus the fuelers don't get paid that much anyway!
 
leelaw
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RE: Mojave Visits

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:19 am

Quoting BigOrange (Reply 14):
You pay for the tour at the end, so the gratuity doesn't make any difference.

The drivers have to take a set route, because of insurance reasons, but it's still worth doing. I gave the driver a tip equal to the tour cost, because I felt that if this ever became a commercial tour the cost would probably increase to 4 times that amount, plus the fuelers don't get paid that much anyway!


I gave the driver a twenty upon entering the van and indicated no change would be necessary (he was elated), we got off the taxiways onto the paved and gravel roads close to the aircraft parking areas, but that was in September 2004 and the drivers may no longer have as much flexibility as to which areas are accessible for tours.
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pgtravel
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RE: Mojave Visits

Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:01 am

I was there a couple of weeks ago with a friend (flew in from VNY) and we had no trouble getting a tour. On the east side of the airport, the guy apologized for not being able to take us closer because of some military training exercises going on that day. But he made up for it on the west side by cutting down through the aircraft and giving us an up close view of the AA F100s and a couple of Zip 732s. So they still do have some leeway.
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