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RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:19 am

I was looking through the Myaviation database and I found this image of CN-RGA at Tokyo Haneda. It seems the 744 is in newer refined colours than it had been previously:

New Colours

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Old Colours

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Why was the aircraft in Haneda, possibly D Check and/or repaint?

The winglet that was previously missing has been replaced  Smile

Where does the CN-RGA fly to? I've seen her in ORY, AMS and BRU quite often!

BTW - Why did AF get rid of the 744, it was previously F-OGTG?

Does RAM have any plans to get rid of their only 744?

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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:23 am

Could it be on "Royal" business in Japan, perhaps for the royal wedding?

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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:29 am

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
Where does the CN-RGA fly to? I've seen her in ORY, AMS and BRU quite often!

In January it is only flying MXP/CMN, ORY/RAK, CDG/RAK, CDG/CMN, and RAK/CMN. Not much flying at all during the week.
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:37 am

Thanks for posting. CN-RGA looks more like one of the UAE private jets now.
 
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:58 am

AF bought the aircraft so RAM would get a better price. LH does this too- it annoys Boeing, but they can't say anything as they don't want to upset AF/LH.
 
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:24 am

Quoting ETA Unknown (Reply 4):
AF bought the aircraft so RAM would get a better price. LH does this too- it annoys Boeing, but they can't say anything as they don't want to upset AF/LH.

hehe, thats pretty neat! So I guess AF/LH has to keep the aircraft for a certain amount of time before they can "sell" it or how does that work?
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:34 am

Does RAM really warrant the use of a 747-400 on its European routes?

Great to see it in RAM colours! Does anybody know off hand the layout of this aircraft? If it is sold to AF first does AF fit the aircraft out and then pass it on to RAM? Do they go anywhere else apart from Europe with this plane?
 
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:10 am

I flew on it from JFK-CMN-JFK. Granted it was a couple of years ago, but it did not have a Air France interior. Standard Econ and marginal J and F. Although I think they may have dropped First Class now.

They also operated a 742 for many years that I believe was used primarily for Haj flights.

When they flew the 744 to JFK is only operated 3 or 4 times a week. Sat on the ground the rest of the week in Casablanca or occasional flights to Paris. Shame.

Correction, looking at the photo database these J seats look very similar to the AF old J seat. However I flew them in 1989 so things might have updated by then.




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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:23 am

RAM also use their B744 on the CAS-CAI-JED route during the Hajj months.

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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:29 am

Quoting Aussiestu (Reply 6):
Does RAM really warrant the use of a 747-400 on its European routes?

Yes, between local and leisure traffic routes such as Milan and Paris have made more than enough money to warrant the 747-400 operation.

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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:52 am

It has been repainted at Orly by Air France , about one month ago.
Yes probably , was at Tokyo for a Royal family flight.
Except Europe and Mideast , very difficult to see elsewhere.
Its future fate is obscur , but certainly will leave the fleet when all 787s will be delivered.In fact it is a too much capacity machine for RAM .
 
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 12:15 pm

How that must be the most drastic change in livery I've seen in my whole entire life !!!!

No come on....RAM could have done a bigger chanhge and take away that rather retro looking livery
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:11 pm

Quoting ETA Unknown (Reply 4):
AF bought the aircraft so RAM would get a better price. LH does this too- it annoys Boeing, but they can't say anything as they don't want to upset AF/LH.



So AF ordered the aircraft and received it then immediately sold it to RAM?? any other airlines have this practice?? Maybe EK since they are getting a boatload of aircraft in the next few years  wink  I know FI lease some aircraft but anybody else?
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:36 pm

Air Gabon did the same with their now retired 747-200.
 
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:49 pm

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
BTW - Why did AF get rid of the 744, it was previously F-OGTG?

This aircraft was initially for Air France, as F-GITG.
It was never taken up to AF and went from Boeing factory straight to the Marana desert to be stored in January 1993.
Remember that at that time, AF was almost bankrupt and in a very bad situation.

F-GITG was finally dlivered to R.A.M as CN-RGA in October 1993.

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 1):
Could it be on "Royal" business in Japan, perhaps for the royal wedding?

This picture was taken last week.
The King of Morroco Mohammed VI (M6 as we call him ...) got married in March 2002 ...
 
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:07 pm

I've also seen this plane at Amsterdam multiple times earlier this year.
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:14 pm

Not much have changed between the old and the new color scheme. I think that those cheatlines are a little old now.
 
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RE: RAM 747-400 In New Colours Here

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:32 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 14):
Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 1):
Could it be on "Royal" business in Japan, perhaps for the royal wedding?

This picture was taken last week.
The King of Morroco Mohammed VI (M6 as we call him ...) got married in March 2002 ...

I guess he wouldn't be going to Japan for his Wedding  Yeah sure

There was a royal wedding in japan in November.

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