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Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:38 am

Memories of Airlines that passed away: Any (nice) memories you would like to share?


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:41 am

...apparently Avensa should have merged with Pan Am - not much overlap in liveries that's for sure!!!
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:48 am

I don´t remember if SABA ever flew! - In case you never heard of it, well here you are  Smile

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Quoting PVD757 (Reply 1):
...apparently Avensa should have merged with Pan Am - not much overlap in liveries that's for sure!!!

True! - They had a better livery before that:


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:09 am

For me the best two airlines the continent have ever had:


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Ladeco-Chile and Aces-Colombia. (AV is getting close of what Aces was)

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I miss ACES, I am proud of AVIANCA & I am loyal to AMERICAN
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 7:49 am

How about the original Air Panama?
The short-lived Aero Costa Rica?
Lanica from Nicaragua?
Dominicana de Aviación?
Saeta from Ecuador?
Peruvian Faucett?
I don't work for COPA Airlines!
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:04 am

or TAN SAHSA from Honduras?


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:16 am

How COULD you forget


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:50 am

Quoting OB1783P (Reply 6):
The warm Inka Cola!

Gross...

Well, i flew Avensa and Aces. Avensa i flew once and i dont remeber well. I was like 5 or 6. I only remeber the landing in BOG was very rough.

Aces, i flew many times. Twice to Manizales, once to Armenia and ocne to Ft. Lauderdale. Got to fly on the A320, ATR and DHC Twin Otter, which was actually my first flight.
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:20 am

Nice memories? I´d say the best memories of aviation in my life! Have a look at my user name: TR763 - this means something!

Tranbrasil - the greatest airline that Brazil have ever seen in it´s skies!
The crew were simply fantastic! They treated us as we were kings! I remember very well of a F/A called Katia on a flight from GRU to MCO, aboard a 767-300... what a treatment she reserved to HER passengers! For sure, an airline that I miss a lot! Besides it´s beautiful planes, giving lots of colors to the airports and skies!
It was part of my life!

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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:20 am

New Zealand has lost a few airlines over the years

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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:24 am

Let us not forget LAPA, DINAR, ARG. And now on the brink is SW.

I thought that Qantas New Zealand was still around!
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:46 am

Mexico's fly-by-nights were indeed an adventure:


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:51 am

Quoting TR763 (Reply 8):
Nice memories? I´d say the best memories of aviation in my life! Have a look at my user name: TR763 - this means something

I agree with you there! TB was one of the best.

No one mentioned Vasp! Or, should they? I wonder if we should give way to another thread on the lookouts for future "Rest In Peace" airlines? Say, Varig?
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:54 am

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 4):
Lanica from Nicaragua?

Lanica became NICA, now part of GRUPO TACA.
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:55 am

Quoting Aero (Thread starter):
Memories of Airlines that passed away:

AeroHonduras.
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:03 am

How could you forget


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:13 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 13):
Lanica became NICA, now part of GRUPO TACA

That's not the information I get when I aks about Lanica and Nica in Nicaragua. Those 2 were different airlines, owned by different people.
I don't work for COPA Airlines!
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:13 am

Nica and Aviateca are part of Grupo TACA.
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:15 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
New Zealand has lost a few airlines over the years

How's this "Latin America"?  Smile
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:20 am

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Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 16):

That's not the information I get when I aks about Lanica and Nica in Nicaragua.

May I know which info you got?
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:22 am

Quoting Sampa737 (Reply 12):
I agree with you there! TB was one of the best.

U.S. Airways Shuttle?
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:34 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 19):
May I know which info you got?

Lanica was a Sandinista airline and it was forbiden to fly to the USA.
Nica started after the sandinistas left the nicarguan government.
Their owners were not the same, neither their aircraft.
I don't work for COPA Airlines!
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:42 am

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 21):
Their owners were not the same, neither their aircraft.

That's precisely what I asked before.
You said that "Their owners were not the same, neither their aircraft". I agree with you with the second part [about the aircrafts, which in the bottom is not important at all]. But how do you know that their owners were not the same?

BTW I find such point also senseless. It could be the same case as AV before and after Efromovich. Is it or not the same airline? I think IS the same.
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 10:51 am

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 21):
Lanica was a Sandinista airline

Lanica was first property of Anastasio Somoza Debayle. And back in the 70's Howard Hughes [sorry but don't know if I wrote such last name correctly] he gifted the airline [Somoza' family. Remember that HH lived in Nicaragua at the very end of his life] with two beautiful aircrafts that I can barely remember.
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:00 am

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 3):
Never flew on them, but another two defunct Colombian Airlines:

Aerotal and Aerocondor.
Aerocondor was a top notch Airline for what I've read and heard.
They had the first A-300 in Latin America (HK-2057), they were sort of the Aces of their time (the second Airline in Colombia and harsh competition to Avianca), they went belly up because of mismanagement, it was sold two times but the it seems only the founders could run the Airline, it went bankrupt in the early 80s. The Pilots lasted a year negociating for a revival, but the financial conditions were so bad that it was impossible.

I know an ex-Aerocondor Curtiss, Electra and 707 captain! (he also flew DC-8s for Arca Cargo)


Aces is definitely missed as well!.
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:01 am

With both AeroPeru, Faucett and AeroContinente gone, there are no more true national airlines in Peru. LanPeru is fully-owned by LanChile (although they deny it), and the few other existing airlines have only marginal domestic operations.

In truth, the airline industry is in shambles in Latin America. International carriers dominate the few profitable routes (i.e. towards the U.S.) and local carriers operate sub-economic equipment that is precarious at best. There are some notable exceptions - Lan Chile, GOL, TACA, etc.

More than equipment is needed in the region - navigation aids, improved airports and regulations are all sorely in need.
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:08 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 20):
Quoting Sampa737 (Reply 12):
I agree with you there! TB was one of the best.

U.S. Airways Shuttle?

You mean Trump Shuttle?  Smile
I'm sure he meant TR.
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:21 am

Quoting LH459 (Reply 26):
I'm sure he meant TR.

Thanks for the clarification.
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:03 pm

Quoting TBCITDG (Reply 10):
I thought that Qantas New Zealand was still around

The Name Qantas New Zealand died when Tasman Pacific Airlines went bust, yes QF is still operating in New Zealand but under a totally different name-Jetconnect
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:06 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 28):
The Name Qantas New Zealand died when Tasman Pacific Airlines went bust, yes QF is still operating in New Zealand but under a totally different name-Jetconnect

Isn't this thread about LatAm carriers?
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:23 pm

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Oh wait, this thread is about Latin American airlines, duh!  silly  silly  silly 


Hehe, after a little joke here are some Latin American airlines that have disappeared:

Zuliana de Aviación. Based in Maracaibo, Venezuela.

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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 2:48 pm

Air Panama, once considered one of the best airlines in the region, went belly up because the now disappeared Panamanian airforce nationalized it and used it as their own private shuttle. In their peak they operated a fleet of 727-100's and DC-10s


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:02 pm

Aeroquetzal from Guatemala also is gone.


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 9:15 pm

Like TR763, my "thoughts" go to Transbrasil ...and its "old" colorscheme particularly.
A great airline, great crews ... A true Brasilian taste in the sky ...


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:31 pm

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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:47 pm

hmm Now I see where TAME gots its Livery  Wink


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:53 pm

TR was really a fantastic airline. I had the chance to fly on their BAC-1-11 when I was very young ans so as all the other aircrafts in the fleet. But the aircraft that really marked TR was the B721. There were and I think still get the record of the biggest B727 operator in Latin America with 21 aircrafts of this type.

Good old days in CGH (GRU did not existed at that time)...looking to the horizont on the north side of SP and could see the smokes coming from TR B721 in final approach runway 16 in CGH (now RNW17)....

Miss a lot hearing crew on the radio...." Torre Congonhas, "BRASIL" 521 final pista 16, cruzando o través do hipódromo, trem baixado e travado...."

My tributes to PT- TCC / TCE / TCI / TCP / TCM / TCN / TJY / TJP, the B721 I flew most.

Good old days that will never come back again....
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:02 am

Quoting Juanchito (Reply 32):
Aeroquetzal from Guatemala also is gone.

I was to young to remember it, but it would be cool if it made a come back.
nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:59 am

I believe we are forgetting Cruzeiro do Sul, a long lasting Brazilian airline partially owned by Varig since the seventies and finally terminated in the nineties.


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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:06 am

Quoting Aero (Thread starter):
Memories of Airlines that passed away: Any (nice) memories you would like to share?

I have so many good memories of Viasa. Luis' (reply 30) signature says it all: Viasa we miss you. But I don't think good times will ever return!
I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:19 am

YES!

CZ was also great with also B732, B721 and AB3 operating in CGH!!! Great livery. I expected to see some DC-10 on that livery...would be great.
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 5:31 am

Quoting TR763 (Reply 8):
Tranbrasil - the greatest airline that Brazil have ever seen in it´s skies!

What happened actually to TransBrasil?
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:31 am

Nowadays, Shouldn't we be including VASP in the list of Latinamerican Airlines gone?
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 6:43 am

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 39):
I have so many good memories of Viasa


Same here. I used to travel to Maracaibo and take Viasa from there. And someother times from BOG...
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:26 am

Aero,

TR stop their operations for about 5 years. They had many problems with bad management, debits with Government and suppliers in general. Very similar situation VARIG is facing actually.

In fact they are still an open company (their right to fly are suspended but it is an open company), fighting on Justice for some rights, including a dream of returning to operations....but it is a dream and of course a dream is cheap...if fact it doesn´t cost anything.
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Wed Dec 07, 2005 2:18 pm

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Oh, the memories of my first flight, in one of those planes...  old 

But don't be so quick to kill the airline, that last time I checked GU still flies to FRS and CUN.

Quoting Aer (Reply 37):
Quoting Juanchito (Reply 32):
Aeroquetzal from Guatemala also is gone.

I was to young to remember it, but it would be cool if it made a come back.

Definitely.  yes 
Don't expect to see me around that much (if at all) -- the contact link should still work, though.
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:54 am

Quoting Carmenlu15 (Reply 45):
I checked GU still flies to FRS and CUN.

Hehe, I love that livery. GU flies but as Inter/Taca you won't really see the name Aviateca per se, I mean look at the A/C they painted the name on the engine not at the front of the plane. So IMHO well GU is dead.  Sad

But anyway, still miss that livery.

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nice and spacious airports in need of new airlines and flights... GUA or FRS anyone?... anyone at all?
 
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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:07 am

Also now extinct Area Ecuador (Aerovias Ecuatorianas) who flew last with a DeHavilland Comet 4 and operated from 1949 till 1972.

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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:35 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 13):
Lanica became NICA, now part of GRUPO TACA.



Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 21):
Lanica was a Sandinista airline and it was forbiden to fly to the USA

This is how it goes:

Lanica was gonernment owned (Somoza period). Transformed to Aeronica, Government owned (Sandinistas). They used Russian built planes and what ever was left from Lanica. Aeronica failed because of tons of fraud.

Nica was privately help and bought by TACA.

Sansa was a failure of an airline that only flew for about 2 months and left thousands stranded in MIA and MGA. Also privately held.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/175838/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/164453/M/

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/137528/M/

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RE: Rest In Peace: LatinAmerican Airlines Gone

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:22 pm

Quoting MGA (Reply 48):

Sansa was a failure of an airline that only flew for about 2 months and left thousands stranded in MIA and MGA.

Sorry my friend. Sansa never ever flew MIA nor MGA. Sansa is a local [regional] Costarican carrier now part of GRUPO TACA.
You may check that info in their website.
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