flyguy1
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TAM @JFK

Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:05 pm

I managed to spot the TAM A330 at JFK today, very nice looking plane. Does anyone know the reg#? How is this flight doing so far in terms of loads?
727, L1011, MD80, A300, 777-200, 737-300, 737-700, 747-400, 757-200, 737-800, A320. E190, E135, 767-200, CRJ9
 
airfrancejfk
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RE: TAM @JFK

Tue Dec 06, 2005 4:52 pm

Supposedly the flights are full well into next year. Not bad for an airline that only started JFK a few weeks ago. However, I understand they have been codesharing with AA for quite sometime, so I'm sure that helped a great deal.
 
mpdesa
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RE: TAM @JFK

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:56 pm

Quoting AirFranceJFK (Reply 1):
Supposedly the flights are full well into next year.

Really? Flights arriving into Kennedy are coming in with anywhere between 50 to 100 pax per day. Hardly full for a plane with over 200 pax capacity.

Outbound however it does look like they are doing much better.
 
JJMNGR
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RE: TAM @JFK

Tue Dec 06, 2005 11:59 pm

AirFranceJFK,

You are right...loads are doing great but the agreement with AA allows TAM to sell JFK on AA flight but AA is not able to sell JFK on TAM´s aircraft.

Flyguy1

I can give yoy registration on JJ8080/04DEC GRU/JFK that was yesterday in JFK. It was PT-MVG.

Cheers
 
hardiwv
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RE: TAM @JFK

Wed Dec 07, 2005 7:10 am

Quoting JJMNGR (Reply 3):
You are right...loads are doing great but the agreement with AA allows TAM to sell JFK on AA flight but AA is not able to sell JFK on TAM´s aircraft.

Tks for the report. In fact, all airlines are doing great on the NYC-GRU route. But this does not diminish the achievement of TAM, which is relatively unknown to public in NYC. I'm sure TAM willl quickly establish itself as the best airliner serving the JFK-GRU market, the same way it did on the MIA-GRU and CDG-GRU markets.

JJMNGR: can you confirm that TAM is planning to drop the business cabin on flights to EZE and SCL?

Rgs,
 
JJMNGR
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RE: TAM @JFK

Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:16 am

Hardi

What I can confirm is that is a plan in order to offer more seats. What was noticed internally is that the amount of pax that buy a ticket on C class is really reduced to a few during a certain amount of period. It makes sense as a C class for short flights are not really necessary.
With this study, it was noticed that the pax flying on C class, are pax that use frequent flyer points to get tkts on C class to South America routes, but are not paying and generating revenue. It it happens not on TAM but in the industry.
So it was thought to eliminate C class on South America routes to reduce costs and generate more revenue as all these flights are heaving strong demand.

On the other side, considering that the hole industry still offers a C class, no matter if with pax on same situation...the C class will be kept for instance.

But....in fact it is not really clear to where this issue goes.

Hope that helped you.

Cheers.