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Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:27 am

Here's the spreadsheet that Airbus has updated. Indigo has finalized it's order for 100 A32X.

Total order for the 11 months of 2005 is 687. This, I suppose, does not include any cancellations.

http://www.airbus.com/odxml/orders_and_deliveries.xls
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:29 am

Can contrast that with Boeing as of Nov. 30, 2005. Boeing has 827 orders excluding cancellations.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:34 am

NYC777, Im not sure I understand your point. Could you elaborate please.
 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:34 am

I'm providing information to those who are interested.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:55 am

Indigo isn't in that spreadsheet you linked to... Are you getting it confused with the "Interjet" one for 10?
 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 1:58 am

So, if you add the December Chinese order (I claa it an order, because even if it is not the detailed contract, the signature on the document is a good guarantee) and today's Finair order, the gap is not as big as I thought, and we will have to wait untill Dec 31 to know who sold more (if you care, of course).
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:00 am

Quoting Teva (Reply 5):
So, if you add the December Chinese order

You're also missing the November orders there  Smile
 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:00 am

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
Here's the spreadsheet that Airbus has updated. Indigo has finalized it's order for 100 A32X.
Total order for the 11 months of 2005 is 687. This, I suppose, does not include any cancellations.
http://www.airbus.com/odxml/orders_a...s.xls

NYC777, may I draw your attention on the fact that these spreadsheets are one month old.
They show the status at the end of October.
The new spreadsheets will be published in a day or two.
 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:01 am

NYC777,

Where are you getting this info? The Airbus site still only lists orders until the end of October...
 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:02 am

Quoting Teva (Reply 5):
So, if you add the December Chinese order (I claa it an order, because even if it is not the detailed contract, the signature on the document is a good guarantee) and today's Finair order, the gap is not as big as I thought, and we will have to wait untill Dec 31 to know who sold more (if you care, of course).
For me , it is a fantastic year for both A and B !!!
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Well if you going to add in all the committed but unsigned orders then the gap is still pretty big as Boeing has AI - 58, DBA - 40, CX -12, China - 70, etc.). I don't think you can add those committments as there's uncertainity when they will be signed.

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 4):
Indigo isn't in that spreadsheet you linked to... Are you getting it confused with the "Interjet" one for 10?

It's there, 70 A320 and 30 A321. Look again.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:04 am

Can anybody translate the orders numbers into an estimated $$$ figure. Taking into account the difference between Boeing and Airbus in the widebody sector (352 vs. 138) the value-share of this year's order must favor Boeing even more that what the absolute number of orderred planes.
 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:05 am

All, the spreadsheet has been updated for November. Refresh the spreadsheets and you'll see.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:14 am

Attempted to update the Airbus one a few times (even went from the main site and deleted cookies etc..) no joy. Still only 40 A321's and 11 of them are for CES.

But about the revenue, Boeing has got the nose ahead there. That's why it's probably better to compare revenue to revenue instead of total number of orders.
 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:17 am

Well I did see it onthe Airbus web site and clicked on the Excel spreadsheet on the bottom. It does say updates as of Nov. 30, 2005.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:21 am

It says "Summary to 31st of October 2005"
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:22 am

Hmm, I only get October's as well. The small table on the page has been updated, but the link only gives me last month's spreadsheet.

Perhaps NYC777 got it earlier and for some reason it was taken down again? Odd. confused 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:30 am

This has happened to me before, it sometimes takes till the middle of the month before I can see the updated file. Maybe someone can post the signed orders of November.

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:36 am

Is there a way I can upload the spreadsheet to A.net? I saved it to my hard drive.

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:39 am

Try clearing your browser cache. If you have a corporate caching proxy server, hold down shift while reloading that page.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:43 am

Quoting NYC777 (Thread starter):
This, I suppose, does not include any cancellations.

The "Orders" tab list gross orders for the year. To work out cancellations, order switches (e.g. A319 - A320) and options being taken up, you have to compare the numbers in the "Worldwide" tab on a month by month basis. It's a somewhat tedious, but can be done. Someone with Excel expertise should be able to automate it.

Airbus do confirm the exact number of cancellations in their "End of Year" press conference (usually mid January).
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:44 am

Ok for those who can't get the updated spreadsheet here the new orders for Nov.:


Kingfisher 5 A332
Jet Airways 10 A332
Vuela 16 A319
Private Customer 1 A319
UFO 30 A320
Indigo 70 A320, 30 A321
Jazeera 6 A320
Alafco 12 A358
ILFC 6 A358, 6 A359
UFO 1 A346
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:49 am

Isn't the UFO A340-600 the one that was reported in Paris (and in that months table) then aren't you missing the a few A318 and A319CJ's?
And a few others.

I'll believe it when I see it on the Airbus website. No offense.

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 2:52 am

I report 'em as I see 'em.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:29 am

Hmm, UFO 30 x A320. Interesting! Wonder who that is?
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:39 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 23):
Hmm, UFO 30 x A320. Interesting! Wonder who that is?

I believe that this order belongs to AirOne. Am sure that soon we shall see if this is the case or not.

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:03 am

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 21):
I'll believe it when I see it on the Airbus website. No offense.

He should take offense. Just because you can't get your browser to get the file correctly doesn't mean he's lying. Other people have gotten the file. I did.

Why would he make it up?

I mean, I went right to the Airbus website, downloaded the excel spreadsheet, clicked on the orders tab, and see 687. It says right there: Summary to 30th of November 2005.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:11 am

Nope, must be the European Airbus site/servers or something.
I sense an Airbus consipracy to alienate Euros from US...  Big grin
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:18 am

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 26):
Nope, must be the European Airbus site/servers or something.

I think that's it. I'm still getting last month's spreadsheet and I've tried three different PCs.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:24 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 25):
I mean, I went right to the Airbus website, downloaded the excel spreadsheet, clicked on the orders tab, and see 687. It says right there: Summary to 30th of November 2005.

Same here, no problem, just like you and NYC777 said, 687 Firm Orders.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:31 am

Hmmm... Even on the Airbus North America one I get the Octoebr one.
And even changing the "Oct" to "Nov" doesn't find a page.

http://www.airbusnorthamerica.com/product/order_deli.asp

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:35 am

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 26):
I sense an Airbus consipracy to alienate Euros from US

Can't be that -  Smile - I'm getting the same problem (october).

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:36 am

Airbus North America might be on a seperate serve and thus did not update with the newest Excel spreadsheet. That's my opinion. but Bloomberg is even reorting the 687 number:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=aTA6PLZ0ws2o
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:39 am

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:39 am

Well, doesn't mean you aren't lying NYC, and there must be some reason for you to do so. What is you agenda?!
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:42 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 33):
What is you agenda?!

Disinformation!!!!!!
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:42 am

Can't we just blame it on Microsoft  Smile
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:07 am

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 20):
Vuela 16 A319

Is there a press release for this on Airbus side?

Can't wait to see this new other mexican start-up C/s!

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:50 pm

Well NYC777 I must publicly apologize to you.
The Airbus orders are finally now updated over here too and you were correct about it.
 
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:34 pm

Is it just me, or is the Indian Airlines 43 A32x still not in there?
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:25 pm

Quoting Astuteman (Reply 38):
Is it just me, or is the Indian Airlines 43 A32x still not in there?
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They most likely will book it if it helps them beat Boeing this year.

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:52 pm

Quoting N1786b (Reply 39):
They most likely will book it if it helps them beat Boeing this year.

I think they need more than 43 A32x to beat Boeing in sales this year.
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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Fri Dec 09, 2005 2:47 am

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 21):
Isn't the UFO A340-600 the one that was reported in Paris (and in that months table) then aren't you missing the a few A318 and A319CJ's?

No, the UFO 340-600 is a new one.
Airbus has signed 2 orders for UFO's 346's this year (1 in June and 1 in November).

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RE: Airbus Orders As Of Nov. 30, 2005

Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:41 am

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 37):
Well NYC777 I must publicly apologize to you.

Don't think anything of it.
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