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Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:25 am

Just was on the phone with a FA for AA and apparently there were shots fired inside one of the jetbridges at the D terminal at MIA. Does anybody have any information?

[Edited 2005-12-07 20:26:17]
 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:26 am

Local NBC affiliate reports shots fired inside a grounded plane and one person injured inside the plane...

should be interesting to see how this develops...
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:30 am

Fox News now reporting and showing photos of AA Plane. Miami-Dade police responding...
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:31 am

Live on CNN right now. People in handcuffs...rear door open with stairs leading down to police car. AA 767?
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:32 am

Federal Air Marshall fired the weapon...a first? Condition of person shot unknown
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:34 am

AA 924 MDE-MIA-MCO.

From AA's website:

AMERICAN AIRLINES - Flight #924

FLIGHT STATUS - ARRIVED
Detailed Flight Information
Carrier City Date Time Terminal Gate Baggage
Claim Flight Status
Notification
Scheduled Estimated Actual

AMERICAN AIRLINES
Departing
MDE Medellin, 12/07/2005 9:10 AM 9:06 AM 12
Arriving
MIA Miami, 12/07/2005 12:25 PM 12:16 PM D42 CE
AMERICAN AIRLINES - Flight #924

FLIGHT STATUS - DELAYED
Detailed Flight Information
Carrier City Date Time Terminal Gate Baggage
Claim Flight Status
Notification
Scheduled Estimated Actual

AMERICAN AIRLINES
Departing
Create Flight Status Notification
MIA Miami, 12/07/2005 2:18 PM 3:00 PM D42
Arriving
MCO Orlando, 12/07/2005 3:16 PM 3:56 PM 15 3

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:37 am

Lots of activity on the apron, personnel in body armour with automatic rifles round the aircraft.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:39 am

CNN now going to 5 second delay on broadcasting. Law enforcement is surrounding the aircraft.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:39 am

CNN reports Federal Air Marshall was onboard the AA 752 flight that came in to MIA from MDE and the shots fired came from the Fed Air Marshall..

sounds interesting!
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:41 am

MSNBC is reporting that there were two FAM's onboard the flight. This will be interesting to see what happens.

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:41 am

Passenger was doing something "threatening." Was wounded but not killed by Federal Air Marshall. Per CNN.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:41 am

CNN reports a passenger did something "threatning" so the air marshall discharged their weapon. This came out of the Justice dept. in D.C.

Is MIA shut down?
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:44 am

MSNBC: Two FAM's fired shots at someone threatening to detonate an explosive.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:44 am

MSNBC is reporting that a passenger claimed they had a bomb.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:46 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10367598/

not much more info but an article...

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:46 am

Does just about every flight have FAMs these days?
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:46 am

A Miami station is reporting the guy shot died.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:47 am

Concourse D in MIA completely shut-down...also DFW ops forecast to op at 40% due to wx. later today...AA ops are SCREWED nation-wide. Advise alternate carrier if traveling today whenever and wherever possible...
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:48 am

Local CBS WFOR Ch 4 station reporting 1 person is dead. Also reporting, incident occured "on the jet bridge"
 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:48 am

MSNBC is now reporting that the FBI has closed the concourse and MIA's airspace has now been closed. That'll make for some diversions.

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:48 am

MSNBC The suspect, a passenger, claimed he had a bomb and started to get off the plane, and air marshals went after him, sources told NBC News.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:49 am

Live streaming of local station is available on line at wfor.com
 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:50 am

Think anything will divert as far north as MLB?
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:50 am

According to CNN video it looks like they have a body.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:51 am

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 19):
MSNBC is now reporting that the FBI has closed the concourse and MIA's airspace has now been closed. That'll make for some diversions.

closing the airspace sounds kind of overkill when one crazy guy threatens with a bomb and is then killed.

makes others think twice about making such threats, one would assume.

luckily it happened on the jetway, as I'm sure that flight to MCO had quite a few kids on it.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:52 am

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 19):
MSNBC is now reporting that the FBI has closed the concourse and MIA's airspace has now been closed. That'll make for some diversions.

I understand that this is serious, but they shut down the concourse already. Isn't shutting the airspace a bit too much?
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:52 am

Already started a thread: Shots Fired On Miami Bound Flight (by YOWza Dec 7 2005 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:53 am

Apparently, passengers were told to get off the plane and leave their stuff but this one guy didn't wanna leave his stuff. Just heard that on foxnews.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:53 am

Keep posting in this one.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:55 am

Quoting YOWza (Reply 26):
Already started a thread:
Shots Fired On Miami Bound Flight (by YOWza Dec 7 2005 in Civil Aviation)

Yeah but this thread started way before yours isn't it. we have like 10 threads going on this already don't people look at their screen before starting a thread.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:55 am

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:55 am

Just heard that he said he had a bomb, CNN.

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:55 am

AA is emphasizing that the shooting took place on the jetway and not the plane. Smells like damage control.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:57 am

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 19):
MSNBC is now reporting that the FBI has closed the concourse and MIA's airspace has now been closed.

Nothing about MIA airport/airspace being reported on FAA's OIS page, nor are there any messages to that effect out from ATCSCC... Methinks MSNBC has "assumed" this happened rather than it having done so...

Quoting Beefstew25 (Reply 22):
Think anything will divert as far north as MLB?

Doubt it.. See above...
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:58 am

Quoting MKEdude (Reply 32):
Smells like damage control.

Smells like reality.

The news reports so far (while sketchy) pretty much all have made it clear that this had nothing to do with bad security (not AA's fault anyway) or with AA's crew or equipment. This was (apparently) someone who was making threats, acting "threatening" and was shot by Federal Air Marshalls. Hardly "damage control."
 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:58 am

Here is an excerpt from the Editor's blog on CNN.com....

Official: Federal air marshal fires gun, wounds passenger on plane in Miami

MIAMI (CNN) -- A federal air marshal Wednesday shot and wounded a passenger aboard an American Airlines plane at Miami International Airport, a federal government official told CNN's Kathleen Koch.

The marshal's action came after threatening action by the passenger, the official said. Authorities said the shooting happened on American Airlines Flight 924, which originated in Medellin, Colombia, after the plane touched down at Miami's airport.

The Federal Air Marshals Service confirmed a marshal discharged his weapon. (Posted 2:49 p.m.)


http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/07/wednesday/index.html
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:58 am

Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 29):
Yeah but this thread started way before yours isn't it. we have like 10 threads going on this already don't people look at their screen before starting a thread.

My mistake, I did a search for AA rather than MIA.

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:59 am

Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 25):
I understand that this is serious, but they shut down the concourse already. Isn't shutting the airspace a bit too much?

Yeah I definitely agree with shutting down the concourse. Closing the airspace seems fairly extreme, but then again I guess you can't be too careful. It'll definitely make for a number of diversions.

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:01 am

Quoting YOWza (Reply 36):
My mistake, I did a search for AA rather than MIA.

Wasn't trying to be rude yowza, but came out that way. sorry

Quoting TWAMD-80 (Reply 37):
Closing the airspace seems fairly extreme, but then again I guess you can't be too careful. It'll definitely make for a number of diversions.

Wouldn't wanna be booked on AA today.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:02 am

The MIA airspace is still up and running with no plans on shutting down. All flight are still operating normally with very little delay.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:03 am

Sources say he had a bomb in his bag...
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:06 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 33):
Nothing about MIA airport/airspace being reported on FAA's OIS page, nor are there any messages to that effect out from ATCSCC... Methinks MSNBC has "assumed" this happened rather than it having done so...

Possibly - a few flight trackers are showing flights still bound for MIA. Maybe the news agencies got a little too jumpy.

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Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:06 am

 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:07 am

Now they are saying the suspect was fatally wounded and the passengers are still on the flight.

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:07 am

Quoting Commavia (Reply 34):
Hardly "damage control."

I disagree. Whatever this incident turns out to be, it is a PR disaster for AA. Their goal now is to get out the story that this shooting did not take place on their plane.

I am sure that there is a "war room" up and running at this moment at AA HQ. And job #1 is to minimize AA's involvement.
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:07 am

Sounds like a good shoot to me.

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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:08 am

so whats the point of shooting to kill??? Over zealous agents? I think so.
 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:08 am

do they have enough guys with guns surrounding the plane? Yikes
 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:08 am

ROTFLMAO, cnn's using google earth  rotfl 
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RE: Gunfire At MIA?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:08 am

Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 38):
Wouldn't wanna be booked on AA today

Why not? It's not gonna affect an AA flight operating LHR-DFW just as an example.

I wouldn't wanna be boarding out of that concourse in MIA in the next couple of hours but that's about it.
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