Bigginhill
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Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:06 am

Is it possible to fly across the Atlantic or cross USA without experiencing turbulence?
Is this just going to become more common with global warming?

What months are best to avoid turbulence?
 
MD88Captain
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Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:23 am

Oh man, the turbulence has gotten so bad lately (as winter is here). And the solar flare activity is irradiating us so badly since the ozone layer has thinned. Flying the North Atlantic has gotten very dangerous because of the global warming. Flight crews have taken to wearing liitle hats made of tin foil. I think the airlines should pass them out to everyone, not just the pilots. That helps reduce the radiation hazard, but doesn't help the turbulence. Whatever you do, DO NOT read Crichton.
 
dartland
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Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:57 am

Wow -- legitimate question and such sarcastic comments.

Bigginhill -- Excellent question. I'm not in the industry, but from experience, my answer is "YES". I've flown trans-atlantic and trans-continental with very minimal turbulence. I've also wondered what time of year is better and worse for turbulence and would love to hear an experts response.

As for global warming -- can't imagine it has an impact on turbulence, but would love to hear a differing opinion based on some sort of scientific evidence or theory.
 
LY777
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Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:58 am

I do not understand your answers, sorry
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SWISSER
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RE: Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:03 am

Quoting Bigginhill (Thread starter):
What months are best to avoid turbulence?

the hurricane season delivers some leftover CB's crossing the atlantic,
so in fact, in theory the summer months can be heavier.

You can check the NOAA website before you're departure,
there are high altitude turbulence charts where you can check what to expect!

http://aviationweather.gov/products/swh/

target=_blank>http://aviationweather.gov/products/turbulence/

[Edited 2005-12-08 00:08:43]
What time is top of descent?
 
IAH744
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RE: Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:07 am

you didnt experience any turbulence [above mach 1] on concrde

[Edited 2005-12-08 00:08:07]
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MD88Captain
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RE: Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:20 am

That's because the Concorde flew so high. But the higher you go the more radation you are exposed to.
 
PlaneDane
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RE: Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:33 am

Quoting Bigginhill (Thread starter):
Is it possible to fly across the Atlantic or cross USA without experiencing turbulence?

When the B787 goes into service, you'll get some relief from turbulence. The unique flight characteristics and the higher cruise altitude will go a long way toward alleviating much of the effects of turbulent air.

Quoting Bigginhill (Thread starter):
Is this just going to become more common with global warming?

Global warming seems to me, a theory in search of any tangible evidence and always coming up short.

[Edited 2005-12-08 01:03:52]
 
CosmicCruiser
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RE: Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:56 am

One contributing factor is just that the jet stream is further south in winter and further north in summer. There's often turbulence associated with flying in and near the jetstream. Wx patterns in general cause a little turb too.
 
symphonik
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RE: Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:26 pm

Quoting MD88Captain (Reply 1):
Whatever you do, DO NOT read Crichton.

Yeah, wow. Airframe was wild. What was it? Uncommanded flaps deployment?

It was a riveting read, if a little sensational. I normally don't like Crichton, either.
 
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RE: Flying Without Turbulence?

Thu Dec 08, 2005 4:31 pm

I don't know anything about Atlantic crossings but in my experience I've had quite a few late summer/early fall flights across the south,west,and midwest with no turbulance at all.....take-off to landing! Most take place at night because the overall atmospheric heat exchanging is low though mountain waves are always existing somewhere. We've rode mountain waves as far east as Omaha! CAT (clear air turbulence) is always a threat, I still don't know what causes that.
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RE: Flying Without Turbulence?

Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:30 am

Quoting Symphonik (Reply 9):
Yeah, wow. Airframe was wild. What was it? Uncommanded flaps deployment?

It was a riveting read, if a little sensational. I normally don't like Crichton, either.

That was overall a well techincally written novel... I remember it had to do with a poor guarding mechanism on the flap handle.

88Captain is referring to State of Fear... very very good read. The "DO NOT" was in sarcasm for those of you that can't figure out humor.  Smile
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