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Wacky FF Redeem Segments

Thu Dec 08, 2005 8:55 am

I have come across a few wacky trips that are available for FF redemption over the years, but also think that it is getting ridiculous, especially when thinking of having to take 4, yes four flights to get from one side of the continent to the other. While AC is notorious for offering connecting flights that require the passenger to stay in the connecting city for up to 3 days (yes, weird huh), here's what I have come up with for a trip I am looking at on Aeroplan. Why do airlines do this? I recall doing IAD-DTW-SEA-YVR with NW a while back as well. I am now tempted to purchase a ticket, as opposed to hopping like this due to time constriaints.

16:00 DEPART Victoria (BC)
16:26 ARRIVE Vancouver (BC)
Operated by Air Canada Regional AC 8076
Aircraft Type: DH3 Air Canada

17:30 DEPART Vancouver (BC)
00:57 ARRIVE Toronto Pearson (ON) AC 132
Aircraft Type: 319 Air Canada

06:30 DEPART Toronto Pearson (ON)
07:40 ARRIVE Montreal Trudeau (PQ) AC 480
Aircraft Type: 319 Air Canada

08:40 DEPART Montreal Trudeau (PQ)
10:25 ARRIVE Washington National (DC) AC 316
Aircraft Type: CRJ Air Canada

20:00 DEPART Washington National (DC)
21:29 ARRIVE Toronto Pearson (ON) AC 311
Aircraft Type: E75 Air Canada

08:15 DEPART Toronto Pearson (ON)
10:30 ARRIVE Edmonton International (AB) AC 123
Aircraft Type: 320 Air Canada

12:30 DEPART Edmonton International (AB)
13:05 ARRIVE Vancouver (BC) AC 241
Aircraft Type: 319 Air Canada

17:30 DEPART Vancouver (BC)
17:58 ARRIVE Victoria (BC)
Operated by Air Canada Regional AC 8077
Aircraft Type: DH3
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RE: Wacky FF Redeem Segments

Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:17 am

How far in advance are you booking? It could be that those are the only flights where the booking class for award redemption is available on the dates you're traveling. I ran across that when I tried booking a trip to NY in October, where Delta wanted to route me PDX-ATL-MCO-LGA because there were no award seats available ATL-LGA on what turned out to be a 767 with a 25% load when I flew my preferred itinerary on a paid ticket. You'd think with 3/4's of the plane empty, they could of coughed up at least one seat for me to redeem with miles.

It's not as bad as the routing a friend of mine did, though. Using a oneworld award ticket to fly to and around Asia, they had to break a few routing rules to get in the required two oneworld carriers other than AA. They flew him PDX-ORD-LHR-BKK first to get BA on the ticket, then a few flights on CX in Asia, then home on AA where he was routed NRT-DFW-PDX since there aren't any oneworld carriers he could have picked up in LAX direct back to PDX. Technically he was on a RTW ticket, but they didn't charge him the vastly higher mileage for it since he didn't intend to go RTW.
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RE: Wacky FF Redeem Segments

Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:20 am

This summer, AA's website said that they had no seats left to fly from ANC to DFW. Yet, when I wanted to book ANC to CVG on the same date, it wanted to route me through DFW... on the same flight that 'had no reward availability'. Ultimately, I missed that opportunity by one day. So then they had NOTHING to go from ANC to CVG. So I called them up on the ol' telley-phone... Wanna know how they sent me?
Four flights. Short layovers.
Eegads, I wasn't happy. Well, actually, I could have enjoyed it, if I wasn't so tired. The first two legs were on Alaska, which is a fairly nice airline. Their new leather seats were comfy.
I must say, AA's regional jet service leaves something to be desired- NO running water in the lavs, on either of two flights... shame.

On the way back, they had scheduled me CVG-ORD-ANC, but then plans changed, a flight got cancelled, and what did I end up with? CVG-ORD-DFW-ANC.... again on another the Dallas to Anchorage flight that had 'no availability.'

Weird. Frustrating. An overall bad experience which just fuels my anti-AA fire. I like the employees, make no mistake... but trips like this ran off my business. Not the routing, but the trip itself.
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RE: Wacky FF Redeem Segments

Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:38 am

I am actually trying to book for some time mid-February. While it can all be exciting, I find that all of my exciting multiple leg trips that I knowingly purchase/redeem turn out to be boring after a while. I have done a few of these to fly certain aircraft (777, ERJ, CRJ etc) but after a while, even though I am all googoo gaga about airplanes, it all just gets tired.

Now, the AC redemption does have the E70 as part of the sched, but I am in no way going to fly three legs overnight in order to just get to an hour flight on the E70. I would maybe do that for a 722 or even a DC3 (or any Tupolev aircraft, for the thrill), but not for a relatively new aircraft which I am sure will be around for a while (the ERJ145 was not as exciting as I thought, although better than the CRJ).

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