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Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:19 pm

My friend was given a drug test/hearing test/ and physical test for a job offer at Delta, actually he got through the drug and hearing test which were conducted as walk in at the same site, but instructed to make an appointment for the physical test which was at another site and apparently the site cancelled the appointment and called back to my friend saying that they wont honor the Physical test cause Delta has not paid them for several previous appointments. my friend had to call the manager and now they got into a situation where Delta in ATL cannot supply additional funds for some pre-screening tests.

I thought it was kind of funny due to the cash issue at DL right now and it went as far as pre-employment tests
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:21 pm

Hmmm

This doesn't sound good
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:26 pm

Sounds like DL is in bad shape from all the various reports.

So who gets their planes?

I bet CO could use some of those 764ER GEs. Would solve a lot of problems if they could get a good finance/lease deal on them. It would free up some 777s for non-europe use, and really allow for expansion out of IAH internationally.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:26 pm

was your friend given positive space tickets from malasyia to atlanta?
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:28 pm

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 3):
was your friend given positive space tickets from malasyia to atlanta?

He is in the US and it was for a local station anyway.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:45 pm

If they're so cash strapped, then why the hell are they hiring?

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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:55 pm

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 5):
If they're so cash strapped, then why the hell are they hiring?

Because people are leaving so they don't go down with the ship?
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:15 pm

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 5):
If they're so cash strapped, then why the hell are they hiring?

plus all businesses of that size have turnover no matter what, and you have to keep jobs filled if they are necessary.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 2:53 pm

people look for anyway possible to put a negative spin on Delta. You people out there are like the doom and gloom of society, give me a break
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 3:18 pm

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 8):
people look for anyway possible to put a negative spin on Delta. You people out there are like the doom and gloom of society, give me a break

But it still doesn't answer the original question... no 

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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:31 pm

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 8):
But it still doesn't answer the original question...

It wasn't meant to answer any question in particular, just the overall mood of the crap you see on here.  butthead 
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 4:45 pm

Quoting Malaysia (Thread starter):
My friend was given a drug test/hearing test/ and physical test for a job offer at Delta, actually he got through the drug and hearing test which were conducted as walk in at the same site, but instructed to make an appointment for the physical test which was at another site and apparently the site cancelled the appointment and called back to my friend saying that they wont honor the Physical test cause Delta has not paid them for several previous appointments. my friend had to call the manager and now they got into a situation where Delta in ATL cannot supply additional funds for some pre-screening tests.

Sound like a third hand story that could easily be misinterpreted

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
So who gets their planes?

No one. They're not out of business, and this has nothing to do with the topic.

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
But it still doesn't answer the original question...

Um, there ISN'T an original question, just a "my roommate's cousin's daughters friend heard...." story.

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 10):
It wasn't meant to answer any question in particular, just the overall mood of the crap you see on here.

Preach on, bro!
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 5:14 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
So who gets their planes?

United. After they merge with Continental and buy HP/AA. Then the whole comglomerate will merge with LH and buy BA. And all of the will be done just to piss AA and NW off.

There you go. A dumb answer to a dumb question.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:57 pm

Quoting VonRichtofen (Reply 5):
If they're so cash strapped, then why the hell are they hiring?

He said that many at the local station are retiring, not jumping ship, but they have to fix the payment problem before the new hires can continue on.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 9:55 pm

Anytime any company declares BK....creditors want either cash up front or "instant" payment.

When in BK, every penny has be preappoved by the BK judge.

This is how BK works. If a creditor gets nervous or has their own rocky financial problems, they cancel or slow down the product.

There aren't any secrets out there folks. We are in BK. Okay? And we are trying to survive. I HAVE SAID IT!! OMG!! IT'S OUT IN THE OPEN.

Is it so hard to understand that a solid company like Delta can do what so many other have done before it. Call United and ask them how they are doing?
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:14 pm

Quoting Jumpseat70 (Reply 14):
Anytime any company declares BK....creditors want either cash up front or "instant" payment.

When in BK, every penny has be preappoved by the BK judge.

This is how BK works. If a creditor gets nervous or has their own rocky financial problems, they cancel or slow down the product.

All of that is true. Some functions (like the HR hiring) may run out of money from time to time. But, they eventually will get the money they need to complete their business functions.

Seems to me the predictions of DL's demise is a little premature at this point. They have only been in BK for just under 2 months now (filed on 17 Oct. 05). If UA and US can make it, I believe that DL and NW can also make it.
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:22 pm

Many people don't think about the small business that get hurt in large company BK's. Many small business get burned. They don't have the cash flow to absorb the loss like a large supplier can.
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:44 pm

How many vendors of services to DL are owed a good part of their revenues? When companies are in BK and are owed money, they will often suspend doing business with them until paid or paid cash for new business. Probably with many jumping ship from DL while they can get their full pensions before they get dumped to the Feds, they need to fill more jobs then there has be money budgeted for replacement. Under BK, budgets are either frozen or reduced as needed as to lower priority business functions.
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:48 am

IIRC Delta used to give the MMPI to potential hires for mechanic jobs. That hadda be expensive giving it and then having a shrink interpret the results.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:19 am

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 10):
It wasn't meant to answer any question in particular, just the overall mood of the crap you see on here. butthead



Quoting B777-700 (Reply 11):
Um, there ISN'T an original question, just a "my roommate's cousin's daughters friend heard...." story.

great valuable contributions..... sarcastic 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 1:37 am

I'm sure this is not true. If the medical company has a contract with Delta, they are bound by a fiduciary responsiblity. They would not give a non-payment reason as why the services were cancelled.
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:54 am

Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 8):
people look for anyway possible to put a negative spin on Delta. You people out there are like the doom and gloom of society, give me a break



Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 10):
It wasn't meant to answer any question in particular, just the overall mood of the crap you see on here.

I'm not the doom and gloom of society, and I would like to see Delta emerge intact. But lets be realistic, shall we? You would have to be either naieve or ignorant not to recognize that the situation at Delta is pretty bleak.

That being said, however ugly things at Delta are, it's still a little premature to start writing the will or shopping around for the casket. Lets also not forget that things at UA and US got worse before they got better ...or less bad might be a better way of putting it.
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:04 am

Quoting Malaysia (Thread starter):
My friend was given a drug test/hearing test/ and physical test for a job offer at Delta, actually he got through the drug and hearing test which were conducted as walk in at the same site, but instructed to make an appointment for the physical test which was at another site and apparently the site cancelled the appointment and called back to my friend saying that they wont honor the Physical test cause Delta has not paid them for several previous appointments. my friend had to call the manager and now they got into a situation where Delta in ATL cannot supply additional funds for some pre-screening tests.

I thought it was kind of funny due to the cash issue at DL right now and it went as far as pre-employment tests

If anyone else had made this post then maybe I would take it seriously. But given the authors previous posts in other threads I think it would be best if we take it for what it likely is: the uninformed ramblings of a potstirrer.
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:40 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 19):
great valuable contributions.....



Quoting SunValley (Reply 20):
I'm sure this is not true. If the medical company has a contract with Delta, they are bound by a fiduciary responsiblity. They would not give a non-payment reason as why the services were cancelled.



Quoting Positiverate (Reply 22):
If anyone else had made this post then maybe I would take it seriously. But given the authors previous posts in other threads I think it would be best if we take it for what it likely is: the uninformed ramblings of a potstirrer.

Ok, tell me your highness, what exactly is the "original question" you are refering to?

Why should I put anything of value into what is IMO a completely useless post?

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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:12 am

turd, actually duck 

but seriously, I agree that something doesn't sound quite right here. I doubt delta pays these vists on a per visit basis, more like the medical group sends them a bill every month or something, contrary to paying per visit. But if the story is totally true, and Delta is so bad off that they are defaulting on their monthly bills, then I wouldn't call this thread starter the doom and gloom of society. That's pretty bad, IF it's a true story that is, which as I said I am skeptical of.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 6:33 am

Quoting USAIRWAYS321 (Reply 6):
Because people are leaving so they don't go down with the ship?

Don't know about other department's but I have heard that a lot of Delta's A&P mechanics are leaving on their own accord.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:02 am

Quoting SunValley (Reply 20):
They would not give a non-payment reason as why the services were cancelled.

Yes it is a true story, the message was left on the answering machine in response to the already set appointment and the rep at the clinic seemed to not follow the rules, and clearly stated that they had not received prior payments from Delta, so they will not honor the appointment, so my friend has to wait for the hiring manager at DL to try to clear it up themselves, it is out of his jurisdiction now and he has to wait till the DL manager gets back to him about the situation.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:35 am

Quoting Malaysia (Thread starter):
my friend had to call the manager and now they got into a situation where Delta in ATL cannot supply additional funds for some pre-screening tests.

I thought it was kind of funny due to the cash issue at DL right now and it went as far as pre-employment tests

Well, DL spent all the cash in buying ex- BA and AF concordes to do the ATL-MCO run so no wonder they're out cash.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 2):
So who gets their planes?

From what I heard, they'll lease them to Iran air.

C'mon guys! This looks to me like some guy failed a drug test with DL and now he's putting some negative vibe on DL. The story sure as hell doesn't sound very credible...just another excuse to bash DL.
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Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:51 am

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 26):
es it is a true story, the message was left on the answering machine in response to the already set appointment and the rep at the clinic seemed to not follow the rules, and clearly stated that they had not received prior payments from Delta, so they will not honor the appointment, so my friend has to wait for the hiring manager at DL to try to clear it up themselves, it is out of his jurisdiction now and he has to wait till the DL manager gets back to him about the situation.

After a quick check, I can confirm that, no nothing like this is happening. At most, it's a lab that is saying this as a "pre-emptive strike", (like Gate Gourmet did in a while back) assuming they won't get paid.

And like Gate Gourmet, they're likely to get the legal smackdown if this is the case.  Wink
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:18 am

Quoting B777-700 (Reply 23):
Ok, tell me your highness, what exactly is the "original question" you are refering to?

Why should I put anything of value into what is IMO a completely useless post?

You can't shine a terd...

Hey pal, take a walk. In my opinion this guy is a potstirrer and I am more then entitled to point that out to and to point out the lkack of credibility in his post given his previous inane postings.
 
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:25 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 27):
This looks to me like some guy failed a drug test with DL and now he's putting some negative vibe on DL. The story sure as hell doesn't sound very credible...just another excuse to bash DL.

Why would my friend bash DL if he was given a conditional offer and now in process to join DL. he is excited about it and he just got the call when he just came back from the drug test the same day. I guess its jinx stuff such as back in 2001, he was given an offer by NW and they asked if he would take the job, then the next day NW notified him that a hiring freeze just came in place, then 2 weeks later NW calls again and asks if he would take job, then next day another hiring freeze, then a month later same story in August, but then September 11 came and he never got a call again from NW. that was some roller coaster situation.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:29 am

Sounds like an Aetna issue. After all they are the ones requiring the PAT now for new hires.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:13 am

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 31):
After all they are the ones requiring the PAT now for new hires.

Maybe so cause the PAT thing is new to me, when I worked for DL as a CSA, I never had to take a PAT when I was hired.
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RE: Delta Ran Out Of Cash On Screening New Hires

Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:36 am

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 29):
Hey pal, take a walk. In my opinion this guy is a potstirrer and I am more then entitled to point that out to and to point out the lkack of credibility in his post given his previous inane postings.

Wait, we agree?
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