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Boeing Offers MAS Plane Delivery In 2008

Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:21 pm

From today's Malaysia Business Times:

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The company has been holding positions for the national carrier since last March, its international sales director Paul G. Dubeck said.

“We can maintain the position for another six months. After that, they (MAS) can probably get the aircraft in 2010 or 2012,” he told Business Times.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_New.../Corporate/20051211234210/Article/

I am wondering the about financial results of MAS as it appears its competitors have been doing well while MAS is experiencing financial difficulties and may not looking into replace its older 737-400.

[Edited 2005-12-12 04:23:41]

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RE: Boeing Offers MAS Plane Delivery In 2008

Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:24 pm

Is the 737 line that backlogged?
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RE: Boeing Offers MAS Plane Delivery In 2008

Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:58 pm

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 1):
Is the 737 line that backlogged?

Yes, but sales will taper off, in my opinion. This has been a big year, others won't, and the A320 is selling more and to new airlines and former 737 airlines while the 737 is only selling to existing customers for the most part.

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RE: Boeing Offers MAS Plane Delivery In 2008

Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:53 pm

There was a thread recently, and I think an article in Flight, suggesting that Air Asia might take over all of MAS's flights that are operated by 734s today. This might explain why MAS hasn't made any apparent progress in selecting a replacement a/c for their 734s.
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RE: Boeing Offers MAS Plane Delivery In 2008

Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:05 pm

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 1):
Is the 737 line that backlogged?

Some of the Chinese Airlines involved in the 70 airplane order have been told they need to sign now to secure "some" 2008 delivery positions.

They are going quick.

The problem for Boeing today is they can't invest in expanding production any futher (new line) if they are going to launch the 737 replacement in a couple years.

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RE: Boeing Offers MAS Plane Delivery In 2008

Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:25 pm

With a backlog over 1000 and deliveries of only 215 or so this year, even if they push it to 1 a day, that's 3 years right there, and at more like 250-275 a year, that's 4 years of backlog. Not all the orders are contracted for the next 4 years however, so there are some 2008 and 2009 slots open, but ultimately there is likely about 500-700 737 slots available before the last plane is built, though they may try to stretch it to 7000 total which would mean 1000 more slots. 2000 jets in 7 years is doable at 265 with 150 left over for 2012 while the first 797s are also being delivered...

7000 would be an amazing number. They are close to 6000 confirmed now and about to deliver the 5000th 737 in January or February 2006. I think there is a pool going as to who gets it. WN is the leader, but don't count out AA or CO...

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RE: Boeing Offers MAS Plane Delivery In 2008

Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:33 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 5):
I think there is a pool going as to who gets it. WN is the leader, but don't count out AA or CO...

It's confirmed as N230WN for Southwest.

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