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AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:55 am

According to several sources on another thread, AA will be dropping service between DFW and LGB. They currently serve the route 5x a day.

Will AA be switching their slots to a new route or will they be returned to the airport? Keep in mind that B6 has first dibs on the slots and if the slots are available, they'll be awarded to them.

Thoughts?

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Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:57 am

 
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:12 am

I just posted on the other thread that I believe the 2003 slot agreement sent the some slots to JetBlue. But there may be some rules in the slot ordinance that need to be followed about reallocating.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:47 am

What would they do with the slots?? Bring on LGB-AUS on B6!!!! lol I realize thats probably pretty far off, but considering they're starting up JFK/BOS-AUS I could see it happening eventually.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:48 am

I love how American is spinning their new Love Field service as coming "at the expense of DFW," as if they were being forced at gunpoint to eliminate otherwise profitable service at DFW just to compete with WN at Love.

To be honest, I'm quite surprised that AA is cutting (and by saying "cutting," did the article mean "eliminating" or just "reducing"?) LGB. The airport is not served by UA, DL, NW, CO, US or several other major airlines, leaving AA one of the few options for connecting service to the rest of the U.S. for residents of Long Beach and a whole swath of southern Los Angeles County for whom LGB is more convenient than LAX or SNA. They don't even compete with B6 on this route. Interesting...
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:52 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 2):

I just posted on the other thread that I believe the 2003 slot agreement sent the some slots to JetBlue. But there may be some rules in the slot ordinance that need to be followed about reallocating.

The 2003 slot agreement involved jetBlue giving back some slots to a whining AA and a lucky AS in exchange for them getting any slots that any airline gives up at LGB. If AA indeed drops their DFW service and doesn't replace it, B6 will get those 5 slots.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:53 am

AA only operate into LGB to stop B6 getting the slots, slots that may be used to operated flights in to AA strongholds and start to siphon off passengers.

If B6 were not at LGB, then neither would AA.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:54 am

I think their decision to pull out of LGB is basically because it has been very unprofitable for them. They basically saw no competitive reason to stay there as they have (reluctantly) forfeited to JetBlue's transcon presence and WN doesn't even fly there.

If JetBlue does get the slots (which is the most likely scenario because of the agreement of 2003), I would expect them to add EWR to their short list of destinations. I could see 3x and then the other 2 slots being used to prop up FLL (to 2) and BOS (to 4 in the summer).

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:02 am

If B6 receives extra LGB slots I too would expect new flights to EWR.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:12 am

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
AA only operate into LGB to stop B6 getting the slots, slots that may be used to operated flights in to AA strongholds and start to siphon off passengers.

If B6 were not at LGB, then neither would AA.

American Airlines was in Long Beach years before JetBlue was ever thought of!

Over the years American Airlines has held onto its presence in the California market and in recent years they are finding that they have less and less to hold onto. Surely, American Airlines, has very loyal followings in the Los Angeles area. People are not going to stop flying American Airlines because they dropped Long Beach. Orange County is a very healthy money maker for American Airlines, as is Los Angeles. A station with just 5 flights a day in an already suffocated market was bound to be dropped at sometime or another.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 8):
If B6 receives extra LGB slots I too would expect new flights to EWR.

Yes.... Please!  Smile

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:12 am

Quoting BA319-131 (Reply 6):
AA only operate into LGB to stop B6 getting the slots, slots that may be used to operated flights in to AA strongholds and start to siphon off passengers.

If B6 were not at LGB, then neither would AA.

Actually, at the time B6 moved into LGB, AA was already flying multiple MD-80s to DFW. The reason for their short-lived JFK service and even shorter-lived ORD service was to attack B6 and hold onto slots.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:25 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
The 2003 slot agreement involved jetBlue giving back some slots to a whining AA and a lucky AS in exchange for them getting any slots that any airline gives up at LGB. If AA indeed drops their DFW service and doesn't replace it, B6 will get those 5 slots.



Quoting N1120A (Reply 10):
Actually, at the time B6 moved into LGB, AA was already flying multiple MD-80s to DFW. The reason for their short-lived JFK service and even shorter-lived ORD service was to attack B6 and hold onto slots.

That is why I'm not sure about what will happen.

I think the DFW flights were under the original ordinance, the others were covered by the 2003 agreement to settle complaints about JetBlue getting all the open slots.

The 2003 agreement says that slots covered under that agreement automatically go to JetBlue. So any additional slots from the 2003 agreement go to JetBlue. But since AA was already operating to DFW, what they had already will have to reallocated using the original ordinance rules.

My understanding is that 4 AA slots fall under the original ordinance since that was what AA had prior to 2002.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:25 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 8):
If B6 receives extra LGB slots I too would expect new flights to EWR.

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:30 am

I could see B6 adding 1X to either Richmond or Austin then putting 2X EWR and adding 1 to FLL and going 3X year round to BOS and then adding MCO to their list as well.

Also, if they start up MIA give the RIC or AUS flight there, TPA is also in the running and RSW is in the back of the pack (further than RIC or AUS imho)...i'd also choose Portland and Denver as possiblities for 1x or 2X daily if they somehow managed a 6th slot
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:32 am

My Wishes:

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:33 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 11):
That is why I'm not sure about what will happen.

I think the DFW flights were under the original ordinance, the others were covered by the 2003 agreement to settle complaints about JetBlue getting all the open slots.

The 2003 agreement says that slots covered under that agreement automatically go to JetBlue. So any additional slots from the 2003 agreement go to JetBlue. But since AA was already operating to DFW, what they had already will have to reallocated using the original ordinance rules.

I would check the 2003 agreement again, because I remember it saying that any slot that came open at LGB, whether old or under the 2003 deal would go to jetBlue.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 6:42 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 15):
I would check the 2003 agreement again, because I remember it saying that any slot that came open at LGB, whether old or under the 2003 deal would go to jetBlue.

Maybe you can help and you'll see something different than I am.
http://www.lbreport.com/airport/lgbagree.pdf

Section 1.5 refers to AA's original 4 slots in use prior to JetBlue.

Section 2.1.2 gives AA 3 more slots.

Section 2.4 on page 4 refers to AA giving up slots, but clarifies it to refer to the first 3 returned as being under this agreement. I would take that to refer to AA's old JFK/ORD flights.

There is an agreement in here also about additional 1 year slots if the noise budget allows it but that is different than the original 41 slots at LGB.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:07 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 16):
There is an agreement in here also about additional 1 year slots if the noise budget allows it but that is different than the original 41 slots at LGB.

Yes it does, but it also has this system of rotating who has first priority between B6, AA and AS which will also be put into question by AA's pullout

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 16):
Section 2.4 on page 4 refers to AA giving up slots, but clarifies it to refer to the first 3 returned as being under this agreement. I would take that to refer to AA's old JFK/ORD flights.

Actually, it could be any 3 of the 7 slots they had after this deal, but thanks for pointing this out
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:17 am

HP has nothing to do with anything???

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:25 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Yes it does, but it also has this system of rotating who has first priority between B6, AA and AS which will also be put into question by AA's pullout

I think the rotation system refers to "supplemental" slots. Those are the additional 1 year slots created when noise levels are low enough to allow more than 41.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:29 am

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 19):
I think the rotation system refers to "supplemental" slots. Those are the additional 1 year slots created when noise levels are low enough to allow more than 41.

That is what I was talking about. It is the year to year slots. It is interesting that they didn't actually say anything about renewal of the supplemental slots in that agreement.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:30 am

Can't B6 use these slots to start up LGB-DFW themselves? Seems like a good time for JetBlue to start up DFW from both JFK and LGB since AA is cutting back there.

I think AA is trading the shackles of Long Beach for the shackles of Love.
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:33 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 20):
That is what I was talking about. It is the year to year slots. It is interesting that they didn't actually say anything about renewal of the supplemental slots in that agreement.

Oh I see what you are saying. Yes you are right. I wonder how the supplemental slot system will be adjusted.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:40 am

Wasnt there talk sometime ago about closing Long Beach, or turning it into a all cargo operation?

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:56 am

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 23):
Wasnt there talk sometime ago about closing Long Beach, or turning it into a all cargo operation?

All cargo operations would do absolutely nothing for noise, perhaps even making the issue worse. Closure would be illegal.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:05 pm

Good point about AA having operated 4 of the 5 flights before B6 came along and the agreement was signed. However, I would that B6 would automatically get these slots anyway because no other airlines have expressed much interest. In addition, JetBlue has always had priority at LGB and I don't see reason for that to change.

In any case, I think JetBlue's dependence on LGB as their LA basin focus city will decrease overtime as they expand their BUR operations. However, I think it's great to have 28 flights to LGB as it has been an absolute goldmine for them since launch.

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:18 pm

Quoting FLAIRPORT (Reply 13):
I could see B6 adding 1X to either Richmond or Austin

As in Virginia?
From LGB?
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:19 pm

Quoting FATFlyer (Reply 16):

Section 2.4 on page 4 refers to AA giving up slots, but clarifies it to refer to the first 3 returned as being under this agreement. I would take that to refer to AA's old JFK/ORD flights.

Nice bit of sleuthing. Thanks!

Quoting N1120A (Reply 17):
Yes it does, but it also has this system of rotating who has first priority between B6, AA and AS which will also be put into question by AA's pullout

Hmmm... Legally, doesn't this set up a rotation between B6 and AS? If AA doesn't fly another route just to "hold the slots," B6 will gain at least 2 slots (probably more).  hyper 

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 23):
Wasnt there talk sometime ago about closing Long Beach, or turning it into a all cargo operation?

A NIMBY dream only.

Folks, this opens an interesting point: IIRC, AA's jets were the noisiest into LGB. At this point, it could make sense to pull flights back from the late hours/early hours that have a tighter noise limit.
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FYI: LGB noise ordinance:
http://www.longbeach.gov/apps/citycl...tle-16/chapter-16-43.htm#TopOfPage

The analysts report. Goes into the Noise calculation method, shoes an example of how the A320 is quieter than the MD80, etc.:
http://www.longbeach.gov/civica/filebank/blobdload.asp?BlobID=9325
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:19 pm

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 25):
In any case, I think JetBlue's dependence on LGB as their LA basin focus city will decrease overtime as they expand their BUR operations.

BUR is always going to be a supplemental, not a primary market for B6. There is not the gate space or the capacity there to really allow jetBlue to have an expansive operation. Additionally, BUR-BOS would be basically a no go given that they have had issues with the A320's range on BUR-JFK. If B6 expands from anywhere beyond new slots at LGB it will be from ONT or by biting the LAX bullet.
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Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:28 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 28):
If B6 expands from anywhere beyond new slots at LGB it will be from ONT or by biting the LAX bullet.

How much longer can jetBlue avoid LAX?

Would jetBlue have had the same impact in Southern California if they just went to LAX in the first place?

Given LGB's moronic NIMBY imposed regulations....will there be a day when even jetBlue finds the place to be a lost cause? In my humble opinion; 5 years from now, jetBlue will be flying from every other airport in the LA Basin BUT LGB; with 50+ daily flights from LAX. That is, if nothing changes at LGB.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:37 pm

Quoting Stirling (Reply 29):
Given LGB's moronic NIMBY imposed regulations....will there be a day when even jetBlue finds the place to be a lost cause? In my humble opinion; 5 years from now, jetBlue will be flying from every other airport in the LA Basin BUT LGB; with 50+ daily flights from LAX. That is, if nothing changes at LGB.
We'll see.

I dont think they will go to SNA (slot waiting)
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:43 pm

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 30):
I dont think they will go to SNA (slot waiting)

Yep. At SNA is approaching its anual pax cap. (IIRC 10mil/yr. to be raised to 12 mil/yr. in the future.)

I think B6 will stay in LGB. Why?
LAX lacks gates for *anyone*. B6 would need 4+ gates to abandon LGB for LAX, they're not getting them anytime soon.
BUR lacks gates
ONT lacks enough demand
SNA has the slot/pax limit.

While I expect B6 to eventually enter LAX, I do not expect it near term. (But then again, I didn't expect EWR this soon!)

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 12:43 pm

Quoting Stirling (Reply 29):
Would jetBlue have had the same impact in Southern California if they just went to LAX in the first place?

Probably not actually, for a variety of reasons

Quoting Stirling (Reply 29):
jetBlue will be flying from every other airport in the LA Basin BUT LGB; with 50+ daily flights from LAX.

Probably not
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:57 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 28):
BUR is always going to be a supplemental, not a primary market for B6. There is not the gate space or the capacity there to really allow jetBlue to have an expansive operation.

4 flights a day from one gate is a breeze for JetBlue. They could easily add two more flights somewhere.
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:23 am

I hope they announce LGB to FLL!!

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:01 am

Quoting InTheSky74 (Reply 34):
I hope they announce LGB to FLL!!

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B6 already flies LGBFLL. They have a daily red-eye.
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:09 am

Yes, but I'm talking about bringing back the 2nd daily flight (which was during the day, and not a red-eye).

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Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:28 am

What is the status DL connection LGB-SLC? I thought that was set to begin March 2006.
 
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:54 am

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 37):
What is the status DL connection LGB-SLC? I thought that was set to begin March 2006.

Oh looks like they are going after B6's LGB-SLC route. Anyway, doesn't B6 have first choice so I imagine they won't give DL so of those.

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Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:59 am

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 37):
What is the status DL connection LGB-SLC? I thought that was set to begin March 2006.

Canceled.

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 38):
Oh looks like they are going after B6's LGB-SLC route. Anyway, doesn't B6 have first choice so I imagine they won't give DL so of those.

Delta's proposed SLC-LGB service was to use CRJs, not mainline, so it is from a different slot pool. In addition, the four of the five slots AA is giving up were slots that AA had before jetBlue came to LGB, so jetBlue, IIRC, does not get first dibs.
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:25 pm

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 31):
LAX lacks gates for *anyone*. B6 would need 4+ gates to abandon LGB for LAX, they're not getting them anytime soon.

T3 would have some space available at certain times of day

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 33):
4 flights a day from one gate is a breeze for JetBlue. They could easily add two more flights somewhere.

Like I said, supplemental, not a new base
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Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:32 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 39):
In addition, the four of the five slots AA is giving up were slots that AA had before jetBlue came to LGB, so jetBlue, IIRC, does not get first dibs.

Then who would? No other airline has expressed interest in LGB. Alaska's 3x to SEA have very poor loads (mid-60's); HP just found a way to add service to LAS witout dropping PHX; AA is obviously out. JetBlue, who actually has a focus city will most likely get the slots. If not, I'd more than expect them to put up a huge fight.

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Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:46 pm

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 31):
ONT lacks enough demand

What Ontario may lack in demand, it makes up for with space to expand.

Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 31):
SNA has the slot/pax limit

Slot Limit?
Pax Limit?

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 41):
HP just found a way to add service to LAS witout dropping PHX;

In the combined US Airways/America West, Long Beach, may very well be dropped from the system.

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Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:10 am

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 42):
n the combined US Airways/America West, Long Beach, may very well be dropped from the system.

Do you have a source?
 
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:16 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 41):

Then who would? No other airline has expressed interest in LGB. Alaska's 3x to SEA have very poor loads (mid-60's); HP just found a way to add service to LAS witout dropping PHX; AA is obviously out. JetBlue, who actually has a focus city will most likely get the slots. If not, I'd more than expect them to put up a huge fight.

If another airline expresses interest in the slots that AA is giving up that jetBlue does not get priority on, then they will most likely get them over jetBlue. It doesn't matter that jetBlue has a focus city. The airport wants to foster compietition and new entrants. jetBlue will not get the slots if another airline contests them, simple as that.

[Edited 2005-12-15 19:28:39]
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:16 am

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 43):
Do you have a source?

Source: Inside America West; Actuality: - Well for now it is all speculation.


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Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:17 am

Jet Blue gets 3 (three) of the slots automatically. Regional jets operate from a different slot pool. See below:

American to leave L.B. Airport
By Felix Sanchez, Staff writer



LONG BEACH — American Airlines will pull out of Long Beach Airport in early 2006, and JetBlue Airways will take possession of at least three of American's five flight slots, officials from both airlines confirmed Wednesday.
New York-based JetBlue, which had to give up some of its Long Beach slots when American threatened Long Beach with a lawsuit over how the flight slots were originally awarded, says it is too early to confirm whether or how it will use them.

JetBlue automatically gets at least three of the spots as part of a 2003 settlement stemming from Dallas-based American's threat to sue the city.

JetBlue gave up five of its originally contracted 27 flight slots at the airport so the agreement, which was approved by the Federal Aviation Administration, could be inked in February 2003. Three of those slots were dispersed to American; two to Alaska Airlines.

The agreement states that JetBlue is first in line for any slots abandoned by American or Alaska.

"We find it ironic that we were kind of pressured to release these slots, and now they're apparently not useful to them (American) anymore," said JetBlue spokeswoman Jenny Dervin. "But that's life in the big city. The marketplace changes so rapidly, almost on a daily basis, so I'm not entirely surprised. No one should be."

JetBlue, which offers flights from Long Beach to New York, Washington, D.C., Oakland and other destinations, has not received notice from airport officials that the slots are being returned.

"Once we get official word, we will evaluate the opportunities and make our decision at that point," Dervin said. "Obviously, we're very happy with the position that we're in. We're pleased with customer response to our Long Beach service."

For now, JetBlue's focus is on getting elected city officials to move forward on proposed terminal modernization, Dervin said.

A draft environmental impact report, which is now undergoing public review, was extended until Jan. 30 by the City Council. Once that review is done, a final EIR will be considered by the council.

Then the group will decide whether terminal improvements should be done.

Long Beach passengers can fly American from here to Dallas-Forth Worth International Airport and then go onto many of American's destinations.

The first flight out of Long Beach will likely be discontinued in January or February. The four remaining flights will be discontinued March 2, said Tim Wagner, a company spokesman.

The airline is ending flights at several locations nationwide as it ramps up new service out of Dallas Love Field. American uses DFW as its primary hub.

"Because we don't have the financial position to buy new aircraft or (hire) more people, we have to get more assets from our other locations," Wagner said. "Long Beach happens to be one of our lower-performing markets. It's a marginal route."

Felix Sanchez can be reached at Felix.Sanchez@presstelegram.com or (562) 499-1297.

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 41):
HP just found a way to add service to LAS witout dropping PHX

We tried LGB-LAS, it was discontinued in November 2005.
 
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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:18 am

well it looks like its confirmed. AA will be pulling completely out of LGB...

http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_3309490

JetBlue automatically gets at least three of the spots as part of a 2003 settlement stemming from Dallas-based American's threat to sue the city.[/]

[i]The first flight out of Long Beach will likely be discontinued in January or February. The four remaining flights will be discontinued March 2, said Tim Wagner, a company spokesman.

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so i wonder if AS and HP will move down the ramp line to let us use the parking pad for the extra gate. AS goes to where AA parked their planes and HP goes to AS's old spot.

now i just wonder where we'll put these slots to good use.

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:20 am

Quoting Ca2ohHP (Reply 46):

dude, u beat me to it by 23 seconds *LOL*  bigthumbsup 

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RE: AA To Drop LGB - More Slots For B6?

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:20 am

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 45):
Source: Inside America West; Actuality: - Well for now it is all speculation.

Speculation? I couldn't imagine that in this industry...  spin 

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