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Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:01 am

Having recently found a British Airways intercontinental timetable from 1977, I wondered whether anyone was interested to read of some of the highlights – a flashback to the past. Any comments/observations are welcome.

Supersonic future

Adverts featured Concorde flights to Bahrain and Washington cutting travelling times in half. Interesting, no Concorde flights to New York during this period

Multi-multi stop flights to Australia!

B747 flights to Brisbane, Australia with flight numbers BA 814 and BA888 were routed via Muscat-Kuala Lumpur-Singapore-Sydney or via Bahrain- Bombay-Singapore and Perth

Other airline flights were noted in the Stop Press section, such as Qantas flight QF001 which routed Melbourne-Sydney-Singapore-Bangkok-Bahrain-Frankfurt-London

“Poundstretcher” low fares to Canada and the USA

BA had non-stop VC-10 flights from Glasgow to Montreal. Some of these flights originated in Manchester

There were no BA flights from London to Vancouver. All flights noted on the timetable are Air Canada flights, using a mix of aircraft, mostly DC-8 and B747

All London-New York flights were operated by mostly B747 aircraft. The occasional VC-10 also operated some flights. All flights were designed BA 5xx

BA had no flights to San Franscisco. Flights were to Chicago via B747 and the connecting to United DC-8 service

Middle-east delights

Many non BA flights are noted throughout the timetable. For instance, Iran Air operated a B727 service from LHR to Abadan in Iran via Athens.

All BA LHR-DXB flights were all operated by the L1011

All BA LHR-CAI flights were operated by the B707

BA was flying B747s into Tehran along with VC-10s

Baghdad flights were operated by BA L1011s or VC-10s

The Tel Aviv-London flight shows it being operated by a BEA L1011 [BE485] on some days of the week, and Trident on the other days

Some of the advertising slogans used:

“Our 747s cover the whole world. If you’ve never tried one we’re giving you a lot of temptation – British Airways, We’ll take more care of you”

“Join the Jubilee – Fly British Airways” [to reflect the Queen’s silver jubilee in 1977]

Inflight entertainment. Finally the timetable even outlines inflight entertainment:

Flights outbound to the USA in April, May and June 1977 were showing the following films:

-The Cassandra Crossing
-The 7% Solution
-The Man in the Iron Mask
-The Silver Streak
-Fun with Dick and Jane
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:06 am

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
BA had no flights to San Franscisco

Didnt BOAC operate the VC-10 on a routing of HNL-SFO-JFK-LHR?

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:08 am

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
The Tel Aviv-London flight shows it being operated by a BEA L1011 [BE485] on some days of the week, and Trident on the other days

Why would it be shown as BEA when BOAC and BEA merged in 1974?
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:11 am

I love these sorts of things- its amazing to see how the world has changed in the past 28 years through this sort of lens. 1977- that was before Iran closed up again wasnt it? ( my birth year, forgive the ignorance!) Perhaps the saddest bit is that in 2005 there is a movie of the same name being shown in theatres as a remake.
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:21 am

The 1977 timetable shows no BA services to HNL at all. All flights from HNL are Air New Zealand flights (at that time, TE) so it appears that by this time, BA no longer flew to HNL in its own right.

The timetable includes the BE code although interestingly, in the index, it says that BE = British Airways. Is it possible that although BOAC and BEA merged a few years earlier, they were still in the process of full integration and there were some flights that were dualcoded BA/BE?
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:25 am

Is this a charter then?


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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:35 am

BOAC did fly to HNL but I think by 1977, they no longer flew there with their own aircraft. They must have pulled out sometime between 1973 and 1977.

All flights in this timetable are shown as Air New Zealand flights.
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:38 am

That was excellent - hell, anything that includes VC10s is great  Smile Loving the long multi-stop routes to Australia! How the world has changed! Thanks for doing that!

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:11 am

On the Euro-Australia routes, I think its somewhere around Bahrain or Muscat where flight HAD to stop to accomodate the inevitable passenger "inversion"... Obviously, the closer you get to the equator (and/or the magentic poles) requires people who normally stand upright in the northern hemisphere to flip, if you will, to walking/standing on thier hands for re-entry to the southern hemisphere. Isn't that normal for Australia, being upside-down and all?

Thankfully today, flights can continue longer distances (and pole-to-pole) uninterruped thanks to modern advances in cabin pressurization and the like.

I think similar technology now available in the 787 swayed QFs new order, no?

LOL,
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:28 am

LOL. VSMike. Yeah mate. They had special "cabins" at the rear of each aircraft to allow Aussie passengers to make that "inversion" from feet to hands (in comfort) and without the prying eyes of fellow foreign travellers....

Now back to the topic itself!

Othere VC-10 routes in 1977 according to the timetable were -

London - Beirut
London - Blantyre (Malawi)
London - Mauritius via Khartoum and Nairobi
London - Mexico City
London - Karachi
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:32 am

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 9):
Othere VC-10 routes in 1977 according to the timetable were -

London - Beirut
London - Blantyre (Malawi)
London - Mauritius via Khartoum and Nairobi
London - Mexico City
London - Karachi

Excellent... the VC10s were being phased out at this time, so I am not too surprised... would love to see a BOAC timetable from about 1969 to see the VC10 and 707 routes.

Still one of my greatest desires is to fly in a 10  Smile

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:52 am

ClassicLover, if I can get hold of an older BOAC/BA timetable - I will let you know!

One of the longest VC-10 routes in the timetable appears to be BA759 which operated from London to Brunei via Doha, Bombay and Colombo.
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:53 am

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 11):
ClassicLover, if I can get hold of an older BOAC/BA timetable - I will let you know!

Thank you!

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:30 am

Palmjet, thanks for a fascinating post.
I was at school at the time, when I wasn't, I'd ride my bike the few miles to the perimeter crossing at LHR, adjacent to the BA longhaul Engineering Base, (BOAC and BEA merger was somewhat botched, both former entities being shunted together, not merged, with duplication all across the board, this would ease after 1979, be largely eradicated after 1981).

I'd wait for B747-136's, maybe a brand new B747-236, or a L1011, or a VC-10 (nearly all Supers by then), the odd pax 707, rather more freighter ones, best of all, perhaps a new, sparkling Concorde!
G-BOAE, the 5th and last of the orignal BOAC order for 5 was delivered in July 1977, soon after it flew the Queen back from BGI, part of her Jubilee tour, I'd be on G-BOAE's last flight, to BGI, 27 years later.

Speaking of which, Concorde services to JFK started in November 1977, they would not be in the timetable, only approved finally a month before, but the thrice weekly IAD operation should be in there.


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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:38 am

That was awesome - thanks so much!

What was coverage in New Zealand like - any flights from Auckland or Christrchurch? I know in the late '80s they routed one flight per week LHR-MCT-SIN-PER-CHC
 
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:09 am

This large batch may seem indulgent, for me at least, they are evocative, bringing back memories of younger, innocent days, as well as school lessons being occasionally interuppted by VC-10, or Trident, or sometimes a Concorde take off.
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Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:19 am

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Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:29 am

Quoting Kahala777 (Reply 1):
Didnt BOAC operate the VC-10 on a routing of HNL-SFO-JFK-LHR?

They flew the VC-10 (Super only, I assume) HNL-LAX-JFK. I've never seen a timetable showing VC-10s to SFO-- just DC-7C/Brit/707.
 
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:31 am

No BA Concorde pics from 1977 in the database, so these from 1978 will have to do, same livery, same interior;

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:42 am

Quoting GDB (Reply 18):
This VC-10 was spectacular at an airshow, though I understand the Capt got a bollocking for being a bit too low;

Yes it's true, he did get told off. The VC-10 was a fantastci aircraft to work and fly on, great aircraft all round

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:51 am

Quoting Timz (Reply 17):
They flew the VC-10 (Super only, I assume) HNL-LAX-JFK. I've never seen a timetable showing VC-10s to SFO-- just DC-7C/Brit/707


LHR-JFK-SFO-HNL-NAN-SYD-MEL SuperVC-10

2 March, 1961
BOAC Inaugurated the 707 on LHR-LAX

November, 1963
BOAC discontinues LAX

1 April, 1965
BOAC Inaugurated LHR-JFK-SFO

1 April, 1967
BOAC Inaugurates route to Australia via the South Pacific, in addition to the existing route via Asia.

http://www.bamuseum.com/


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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:00 am

Wrightbrothers, you got that right, many of my former colleagues in Concorde Engineering were ex VC-10, some from building them at BAC, they all loved the aircraft.

In 1998, my Shift Manager took a quick shopping trip to Tyson's Corner in Washington, I asked if he enjoyed it, yes he said, but the best bit was on the aircraft taxiing to return home, he heard a once familiar sound, R/R Conways, then a RAF VC-10 taxied past, made his day!
 
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:16 am

Quoting VSMike (Reply 8):
On the Euro-Australia routes, I think its somewhere around Bahrain or Muscat where flight HAD to stop to accomodate the inevitable passenger "inversion"... Obviously, the closer you get to the equator (and/or the magentic poles) requires people who normally stand upright in the northern hemisphere to flip, if you will, to walking/standing on thier hands for re-entry to the southern hemisphere

your geography is awful - they did that at Kuala Lumpur or Singapore. LOL

Its also interesting to see that BA hardly served BKK in those days and KL and SIN were the usual stopovers and it wasn't until the late 1980s that BKK became a featured stopover.

Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 14):
What was coverage in New Zealand like - any flights from Auckland or Christrchurch? I know in the late '80s they routed one flight per week LHR-MCT-SIN-PER-CHC

BA also operated an LHR-BKK-KUL-MEL-AKL flight just as the 747-436s arrived in the early 1990s. Prior to the late 80s, I am not sure what they did with NZ flights but I remember BA and TE (from 1986/7 onwards) operated a joint service at Kuala Lumpur where passengers arriving from LHR would transfer on to a TE/NZ 767 at Kuala Lumpur for the onward flight to Auckland. Of course those WERE the days when both BA and TE flew into KL...
 
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:31 am

That's a really cool look into the past, with all those cool places and aircraft. Slogans are bit corny though.

Aren't they remaking Fun with Dick and Jane?
 
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:48 am

What a fabulous blast to the past!! Very cool - we all thank you!

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Flights outbound to the USA in April, May and June 1977 were showing the following films:

-The Cassandra Crossing

Oh, The Cassandra Crossing - the train wreck of train wreck films...arguably the silliest plot in the known universe...hysterically bad. So of course, I loved it.  rotfl 

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:29 am

Quoting Palmjet (Thread starter):
Fun with Dick and Jane

Hardly sounds like a suitable in flight movie!  Wink
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:47 pm

That was so great to read - thanks very much for sharing Palmjet.

I just love the retro stuff - especially from the late 70s early 80s, and like
Classiclover said, anything that mentions a VC10 HAS to be great  Smile

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:02 pm

Glad you all seem to like the info on BA from this timetable. They are fascinating insights into the past - and reveal much more than simply flights and times and a/c types.

For New Zealand flights, this must have been around the time that BA and TE (NZ) were operating the joint DC10 service from NZ to LHR via LAX.

Flights are showing as BA599/TE555 a through DC10 service from LHR to AKL via LAX and HNL.

Flights from AKL to LHR also show as going via SIN. TE705, a DC10 would connect with BA889, a B747 in SIN. The B747 would then route to LHR via KUL and BAH.

Just another little snippet -

Flights from Tangier to London were operated by Gibraltar Airways Ltd (GT) using a Viscount to Gibraltar, which then connected with a "BE" Trident service up to LHR!!!
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:15 pm

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 27):
Flights from Tangier to London were operated by Gibraltar Airways Ltd (GT) using a Viscount to Gibraltar, which then connected with a "BE" Trident service up to LHR!!!

They were still using that Viscount until the late 80s!! I went to GIB in 1987 and it was still there!!

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:46 pm

GDB - If you don't mind me asking, -
In one of your posts above, you mentioned being a child in 1977, as was I... (7yrs old) - But it was the bit about cycling a couple of miles to LHR, that got me thinking.....

I used to live in Harmondsworth, a lovely village 1 mile north of 27R/9L - I'm sure being within Cycling distance of LHR yourself you were living close by? May I ask where? feltham, Harlington, Longford etc etc?

Bit of a nostalgia thread this.... I too love the VC10, & I still have distant memories of 'messing' around at Heathrow as well....... & hearing the unique sound of the RR Conways & Speys

- Lets not also forget Vanguards & Viscounts - & that helicopter service between Heathrow & Gatwick!

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Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:01 pm

I Love this topic !

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 9):
Othere VC-10 routes in 1977 according to the timetable were -

London - Beirut
London - Blantyre (Malawi)
London - Mauritius via Khartoum and Nairobi
London - Mexico City
London - Karachi

Can anyone tell me which stops did the VC-10 destination Mexico DF ?

cheers !

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:18 pm

SQ773 - the 1977 timetable shows BA flights from London to Mexico City all being operated by the VC10.

BA240 on a Tuesday went via Nassau and Bermuda whilst the other flights went via either of those intermediate stops. So it was either a one stop or two stop flight from London to Mexico City!

I've just discovered also that the inflight movies to Australia in early 1977 consisted of the following:

"Silent Movie" with Mel Brooks
"Won Ton Ton (the dog who saved Hollywood)"
"The Amazing Dobermans" with Fred Astaire
"Sounder, Part Two"

It also says that no films are shown on Concorde services!
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:54 pm

Quoting GDB (Reply 13):
I was at school at the time, when I wasn't, I'd ride my bike the few miles to the perimeter crossing at LHR, adjacent to the BA longhaul Engineering Base, (BOAC and BEA merger was somewhat botched, both former entities being shunted together, not merged, with duplication all across the board, this would ease after 1979, be largely eradicated after 1981).

GDB, You know what the sacriest thing is, my dad had been working for BOAC for 8 years by that time, and was working inside those hangers !!

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:17 pm

mmmmhhh- I remember seeing the "Cassandra Crossing" on a flight from Germany to South Africa in 1977 as a seven year old - made me very scared.
In those days SAA still took the long route around Africa due to politics
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:28 pm

Can anybody list all the destinations served by BA in 1977 from all UK airport? thanks
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:36 pm

I love this thread!

Hello Palmjet! Can you tell me what routes BA 747s flew into Bernuda, Caribbean, Mexico at that time? Did BA 747 fly into Georgetown, Guyana ever?

Thanks for the info.
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:17 pm

Hi AirAmericaC46

Here's what I could find:

No BA B747 services from LHR to MEX at all in this timetable period

Flights from LHR to Bermuda were a mix of 707/VC10/B747 - all nonstop.
Fights departed Heathrow either in mid morning or early afternoon


BA did fly to Georgetown, Guyana and the flights in early 1977 are showing as all B707 service with multi-stops. BA281 on a Wednesday went from London to Georgetown via Antigua, Barbados and Trinidad!

BA also flew to Panama City in its own right. All B707 flights routed from London with some flights going via Bermuda, Freeport and Kingston!

Other Carribean routes noted in this period:

London - Antigua: all B707 service
London - St Lucia: all B707 service via Antigua
London - Bermuda - Nassau: mixture of B707/VC10/747 service
London - Barbados either nonstop or via Antigua and Antigua and St Lucia: mixture of 707 and 747 service
London - Kingston: either non-stop or via Bermuda or Nassau: mixture of B707 and B747
London - Trinidad: mixture of B707 and B747 service via Antigua and Barbados
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:24 pm

Can you list the US cities that BA served at that time?

I'm wondering if they had entered markets like DEN, DFW, IAH, ATL, TPA, etc. I'm sure they weren't in PHX yet.
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:20 am

Flights to the following US cities are mentioned in the 1977 timetable:

Atlanta (via BOS and connect with DL)
Anchorage (B747)
Boston (B747/707)
Chicago (B747)
Dallas (via ORD and connect with BN)
Denver (via ORD and connect with UA)
Detroit (B747 via Washington)
Houston (via MIA and connect with CO)
Kansas City (via ORD and connect with BN)
Los Angeles (DC10 - op by Air New Zealand)
Miami (B747)
Minneapolis (via ORD and connect with UA)
New Orleans (via Washington and connect with EA)
New York (B747, 707, VC10)
Philadelphia (B747/707 via BOS)
Portland (via ORD and connect with UA)
Salt Lake City (via ORD and connect with AA)
San Diego (via ORD and connect with AA)
San Francisco (via ORD and connect with UA)
Seattle (via ORD and connect with UA)
Tampa (via MIA and connect with EA)
Tulsa (via ORD and connect with AA)
Washington DC (B747 and Concorde)

What I observe from the above -

1. Seems that in 1977 ORD was a major transit point for BA passengers arriving into the US.

2. BA did not fly to LAX with its own aircraft at this time. Compare this with today and the number of flights BA have between LHR and LAX each week!

Also, flights to NY also operated from Glasgow and Manchester using a mix of VC10, B747 and 707.
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:24 am

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 38):
2. BA did not fly to LAX with its own aircraft at this time. Compare this with today and the number of flights BA have between LHR and LAX each week!

Amazingly now they are in the market with:

LAX-LHR
3 x 747-400

SFO-LHR
2 x 747-400


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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Sat Dec 17, 2005 2:30 am

I remember flying YMX-LHR in 1981 on a BA 707. Had to have been one of their last ones I think. When we arrived at LHR I was so excited because we were parked right next to a Concorde.
 
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Sat Dec 17, 2005 3:09 am

Hypersonic, I lived in Hayes then.
 
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:15 am

So if I'm reading the list correctly, the only airports in the US that BA used its own metal to were:

ANC
BOS
ORD
DTW
MIA
JFK
PHL
IAD

?

That Anchorage flight? What was the final destination?
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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:41 am

GDB, - I knew Hayes well.
I moved to West Drayton when I was 11.
WD is a nasty Chav ridden shit hole now (well, more-so Yiewsley..(pronounced Yeewwzzzleee.)... So is Hayes, since they had the bright Idea of padestrianising the highstreet, thus cutting off the natural flow of human traffic to the local shops & businesses....
Mind you, the smell of Coffee & chocolate from Nestle was nice  Smile

I trust you had the good fortune to move far far away from these dumps in the end?

 Smile

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RE: Historical Snapshot - British Airways In 1977

Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:07 am

Quoting Palmjet (Reply 38):
Also, flights to NY also operated from Glasgow and Manchester using a mix of VC10, B747 and 707.

Minor quibble - it was PIK.

Didn't they also operate a MAN-PIK-YUL-ORD service around that time with 747s? And for completeness, the other long-haul route from MAN by BA at the time was the MAN-PIK-YYZ with Vc10s/707s.

Quoting Stirling (Reply 42):
That Anchorage flight? What was the final destination?

I think it might be Tokyo.

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