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Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:18 am

Is there/are there any regular flights into the USA using the TU154?

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:28 am

NO, I doubt it

As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace. I know Cubanas IL-62's had to avoid American airspace when flying to YUL and YYZ. Now Cubana has gotten around that problem by using TACA's A320 to fly into YYZ.

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:34 am

Not that I'm aware of. The good old Soviet SU also never flew to the US with the Tu-154, they used IL-86 and IL-62. The post Soviet SU used IL-96, 772, A310 and 763.

However, in the mid-90s Magadan airlines used to operate flights into SEA on the Tu-154.


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They no longer do.

In the database there are also a few pics of Guyana and Cubana Tu-154 in US airports. I don't know whether those flights were scheduled. I don't think there are any scheduled flights now.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:01 am

Hi guys,

Quoting EHHO (Reply 2):
However, in the mid-90s Magadan airlines used to operate flights into SEA on the Tu-154.

Magadan also used to be a pretty frequent (1x week?) visitor to ANC/ Anchorage airport for many years. What happened to these flights? Similarily, I recall regular flights with Aeroflot Il-62s and even the occasional An-24/26 visiting ANC in the past.

Some people tend to reduce the US to the lower 48, but my guess would be that ANC is probably the spot in the US where you stand the best chances of seeing GUS-built airliners (Inuit families do live either side of the Bering straight, so there's actually some local demand which at least in the past was enough to sustain a few flights a month between the US and Northwestern territories of Siberia).

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:06 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace.

Sorry for my ignorance - why are they not allowed into US airspace? Is this a Cold War thing or other issues?
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:11 am

Quoting BAtriple7 (Reply 4):
As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace.

Sorry for my ignorance - why are they not allowed into US airspace? Is this a Cold War thing or other issues?

This is a falacy.

The former Soviet Union and many eastern European airlines flew Russian A/C to the US for years!
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:20 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace. I know Cubanas IL-62's had to avoid American airspace when flying to YUL and YYZ. Now Cubana has gotten around that problem by using TACA's A320 to fly into YYZ



Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 5):
This is a falacy.

The former Soviet Union and many eastern European airlines flew Russian A/C to the US for years!

I agree with Dtwclipper. They are certainly allowed in Canada. Just last week I annoyed my spouse by insisting that we stop so that I could get a good look at an An-12 parked at YYT.

Wasn't the Cubana thing related to a ban on Cuban aircraft due the present state of US-Cuba relations?
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:24 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace

OK, so what is this monster doing in IAH after Hurricane Katrina?


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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:24 am

The problems with Cubana Il62s was because of the wacky world of US politics, not Cubana's choice of equipment. I suspect they have just as much difficulty flying their leased A320s in US airspace as they ever did with the Il62s.

And the reason eastern European airlines have ditched their Russian built planes across the Atlantic is cos they can't make money with them (and possibly noise regulations), not cos of any US rules about Russian planes. In the old days, LOT, Malev, CSA and Aeroflot all flew Il62s to JFK and other US cities. Even at the height of the cold war, Aeroflot served JFK and elsewhere (Miami, SFO, Washington?).
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:26 am

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 5):
The former Soviet Union and many eastern European airlines flew Russian A/C to the US for years!

...but some of these types do no longer fulfill the existing noise regulations of the US (and the EU as well, for that matter) and are therefore banned from flying commercially into the US (and EU-member states), along with those Western types that exceed tolerated noise levels. I.e. this is no cold war thing, it is simply the result of stricter environmental laws coming into force.

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:31 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace.

Russian made aircraft not allowed in US airspace?! Hogwash!

The grand AN-124 stops through FAI (my home airport) all the time...likewise ANC, and many other lower 48 airports. The IL-76 may occasionally be seen also. Just do a photo search! Granted these are not scheduled, these are ad hoc charters.

As for scheduled ops...the only service I'm aware of is Mavial's once-weekly pax service to ANC from the Russian Far East (Vladivostok, Petropavlovsk, Magadan IIRC) with a Tu-154M. It is a turnaround early Sunday mornings, IIRC. I saw it in the gate several times over the past year during my own travels through ANC. They've maintained counter space at the North Terminal for years.

I am not sure if Aeroflot still operates the IL-96 on any transatlantic ops to the US....
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:34 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace. I know Cubanas IL-62's had to avoid American airspace when flying to YUL and YYZ. Now Cubana has gotten around that problem by using TACA's A320 to fly into YYZ.

I bet as I am writing this, a Russian made freighter is sitting at a US airport.
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:37 am

Hi!

Guyana Airways was at one time the only regular airline that operated the TU154. Infact one day they had a problem with one of the engines of the plane and a russian AN12 came to Miami to replace the engine.


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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:42 am

Quoting Frostbite (Reply 10):
I am not sure if Aeroflot still operates the IL-96 on any transatlantic ops to the US....

Nope, they don't anymore. Nowadays they only use them on a few Far East runs from SVO.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:35 am

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 8):
LOT, Malev, CSA and Aeroflot all flew Il62s to JFK and other US cities

Malev never had Il-62's, only TU-134, 154 and Yak-42. The first Malev flight to JFK was in 1993 with a B767.

Quoting EHHO (Reply 7):
Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace

OK, so what is this monster doing in IAH after Hurricane Katrina?

I meant commercial pax planes, I know that Volga and other airlines operates numerous flight with the AN-124 and the Myra to the US.
But the FAA did revoke fly-worthy certificates for certain TU and IL aircraft in the 90's. Perhaps they have been reinstated.

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:48 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 14):
Quoting EHHO (Reply 7):
Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace

Up until a few years ago, Aeroflot regularly flew Russian made commercial a/c into the States. IL-86's, IL-62's etc. Domededovo plans service into MIA using the IL-86. So yes, Russian made aircraft are indeed allowed ito the US.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:51 am

Aeronica from Nicaragua flew the TU-154 into MIA years ago.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:57 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 14):
But the FAA did revoke fly-worthy certificates for certain TU and IL aircraft in the 90's. Perhaps they have been reinstated.

If you do a simple A.Net data base search on the IL62, for example, you will see them in an array of commercial airlines and government ops at US airports throughout the '90's.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:29 am

Quoting Tu154 (Reply 15):
. Domededovo plans service into MIA using the IL-86

How many stops will they have to make before MIA due to the IL-86's
not so great range?
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:52 am

I believe the Domodedovo plans are with an IL-96, not the IL-86. The -86 would need to stop in Shannon or Gander (or both) to make it to Miami. The IL-96 can probably make it non-stop. Obviously, aside from noise restrictions limiting commercial ops, no Soviet/Russian/Ukrainian aircraft are "banned" from the US. One can do a search of the database and see many types at many US airports. The IL-96 is also used on European routes and very occasionally to the US as an equipment switch.
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:30 am

As Domodedovo have no IL-86s but 3 IL-96-300s, the answer is quite clear: It's one IL-96 which will be used non-stop to Miami.

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:47 am

I live in Maryland near Andrews Airforce Base. One day I was driving on I-95 North and I saw two VERY LOW flying planes. The first plane looked like a 727 until I noticed the tail of the aircraft as it flew above my car. It had that pointed fairing protruding from the top-front of the t-tail and thats when I looked at the wings and I saw the triple-main boogie and the pods on the wings where the gear retracts. I YELLED! I couldn't believe I was seeing a TU-154!!! I never dreamed I'd see one at all let alone in my area! Then immediately behind the TU-154 there was an Airbus A300 trailing right behind it. I couldnt believe that! They both looked like private/military aircraft. That 154 was really a sight though.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:15 am

First off, the AN225 and AN124 are Ukraine made.

If I can remember correctly the TU154 was banned or soemthing like that after an incident in Seattle where the plane landed on the Freeway next to the airport or almost landed on the freeway. I forget. The IL96 was grounded. Don't know if it still is though.
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:47 am

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 22):
an incident in Seattle where the plane landed on the Freeway next to the airport or almost landed on the freeway.

Wow, anyone have specs on this?

Quoting Wdleiser (Reply 22):
First off, the AN225 and AN124 are Ukraine made.

I know, but for the sakes of safety/environment and even politics, there's not much difference. They're all Soviet.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:52 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace. I know Cubanas IL-62's had to avoid American airspace when flying to YUL and YYZ. Now Cubana has gotten around that problem by using TACA's A320 to fly into YYZ.

Krisyyz

Not true, before Western models were introduced to Aeroflot, Russian models were flown to the US.

Anything from Cuba is not "allowed" in American Airspace.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:55 am

Quoting 717-200 (Reply 18):
Domededovo plans service into MIA using the IL-86

Correction....I should have typed IL-96
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:11 am

Why would an airplane be banned because the pilots made a landing error? Every model plane in the world should be banned according to that logic; and of course, it isn't true. Why even post that after all the posts about how it is in fact allowed and there are pics of it? Anyway, the IL-96 issue was addressed and it is no longer grounded. Again, a simple search of pics and/or threads would answer this.

Only recent and modernized AN-124s are produced by Antonov in independent Ukraine, but it is actually built by TAPO in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. The others are Soviet made.

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:19 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace. I know Cubanas IL-62's had to avoid American airspace when flying to YUL and YYZ. Now Cubana has gotten around that problem by using TACA's A320 to fly into YYZ.

The Cubana IL-62s is because it is from Cubana Airlines. Planes are allowed to fly from Cuba to the US though. AA,CO,UA all have flights to HAV from MIA. They are special charters though. But run on a pretty much set schedule. Also Russian planes fly in the US all the time. especially cargo planes like an-124s. Also in South Florida there are older Russian cargo planes flying from OPF to the carribean region. I see one of them fly over my school all the time, its great seeing all the smoke from the four engines.


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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:29 am

Umm I've seen pics in this database, just by casual browsing of IL-62's (Aeroflot, Malev, and CSA all at JFK I think), IL-76's of various air forces, IL-96's on diplomatic missions, and I've even actually spotted an AN-124 flying low over where I work (San Diego, CA, near Miramar). There is no such restriction.

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:12 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
I know Cubanas IL-62's had to avoid American airspace when flying to YUL and YYZ.

Nonsense. Apart from anything else, I doubt if Cubana Tu-154s, which also flew HAV-YYZ, had enough range to fly non-stop avoiding US airspace.

Quoting EHHO (Reply 2):
The good old Soviet SU also never flew to the US with the Tu-154,

Oh, really?

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:34 am

Quoting IRelayer (Reply 28):
Umm I've seen pics in this database, just by casual browsing of IL-62's (Aeroflot, Malev, and CSA all at JFK I think

Malev never had any IL jet aircraft, the first Malev Transatlantic flight was with HA-LHC (B767) in 93.

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 29):
Nonsense. Apart from anything else, I doubt if Cubana Tu-154s, which also flew HAV-YYZ, had enough range to fly non-stop avoiding US airspace.

I never said TU-154, I said IL-62.
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:28 am

How do those TU-154 get to the US? I thought they were pretty much on par with the 727 on performance/range and so surely no airline could operate them profitably over the atlantic, after all, they cannot do it non stop can they?
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:06 am

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 30):
Malev never had any IL jet aircraft,

Malev flew the IL-14 and the IL-18!!!

Where do you get your information from??? Do a photo search on Malev and it's Ilyushin aircraft.....please!
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:12 am

Back in the mid 90's Page Avjet in Orlando Florida did several TCAS installations on some Aeroflot equipment. I have several videos of at least three different TU154's and several IL62s that staged through here.. Each aircraft spent about a month on the ground during the installations. What a sight when they left!
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:15 am

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:30 am

As previously mentioned:

Aeroflot, CSA & LOT did indeed all fly IL-62s to the USA in regularly commercial service. (I believe Aeroflot also operated IL-76 briefly for cargo.)

Magadan and Guyana both operated TU-154s in regular commercial service.

Aeroflot later operated regular scheduled passenger service with both the IL-86 and IL-96.

These were not special government charters/missions.

The issue now is noise restrictions and FAA certifications(?) I believe. I seem to remember at least the latest version of the TU-154 would still be welcome in the USA as would the Tupolev Tu-204 & 334 and possibly some modified or later versions of the IL-76.

Others show up as exceptions/waivers - Gambia IL-62, Slovak Air Force Tu-154, - JFK even had a Tu-134 a few years back... I understand it was quite loud.  Smile
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:32 am

Quoting Tu154 (Reply 32):
Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 30):
Malev never had any IL jet aircraft,

Malev flew the IL-14 and the IL-18!!!

Where do you get your information from??? Do a photo search on Malev and it's Ilyushin aircraft.....please!

Which one is a JET aircraft. Im very aware of the IL-14 and IL-18 that Malev had... but they where not JET Ilyushins!!!!!!!

Perhaps you should read the post before you knock it.

Respectfully,

Krisyyz

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:02 pm

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 36):
Quoting Tu154 (Reply 32):
Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 30):
Malev never had any IL jet aircraft,

Malev flew the IL-14 and the IL-18!!!

Where do you get your information from??? Do a photo search on Malev and it's Ilyushin aircraft.....please!

Which one is a JET aircraft. Im very aware of the IL-14 and IL-18 that Malev had... but they where not JET Ilyushins!!!!!!!

Perhaps you should read the post before you knock it.

Respectfully,

Perhaps I should have read it more carefully. I stand corrected.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:38 pm

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 29):
Oh, really?

Yes, really.. Please read my post: the good old Soviet SU I said. Your pic shows a Tu-154 in 90s SU livery, plus it's in SEA, which makes me think it's flying an H5 routing, cause I can't imagine SU sending a Tu-154 from SVO to SEA. If they ever had that route in 1995, it would have been IL-62, IL-96 or 763.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:46 pm

Quoting EHHO (Reply 38):
Yes, really.. Please read my post: the good old Soviet SU I said. Your pic shows a Tu-154 in 90s SU livery, plus it's in SEA, which makes me think it's flying an H5 routing,

I read your post and noticed that you did not list the TU-154 as`being used in the 90s. Also I don't understand 'SU'. It obviously doesn't stand for 'Soviet Union' as you have the word Soviet in front of it. As for its being a Magadan flight I only know that it said "Aeroflot" on the plane. Unfortunately I did not check SeaTac's arrivals and departures or hear what call sign/flight number the aircraft was using.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:57 pm

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 39):
Also I don't understand 'SU'.

Click on SU and you'll see that it stands for Aeroflot airline. It's an IATA airline code.

[Edited 2005-12-16 05:58:18]

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:00 pm

No problem man, it's just hard to believe Aeroflot sending a Tu-154 to SEA. I've been monitoring Aeroflot flights to the USA for years now, and have never seen a Tu-154 dispatched.. Incidentally, my first flight ever was on an Aeroflot Tu-154, VKO-AER, in 1986!

Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 39):
Also I don't understand 'SU'. It obviously doesn't stand for 'Soviet Union' as you have the word Soviet in front of it.

SU is the IATA airline code for Aeroflot Russian Airlines. It used to be the code for Aeroflot Soviet International Airlines, and it stayed that way for the current Aeroflot.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 2:01 pm

Quoting KBGRbillT (Reply 40):
Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 39):
Also I don't understand 'SU'.

Click on SU and you'll see that it stands for Aeroflot airline. It's an IATA airline code.

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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:19 pm

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 14):
Malev never had Il-62's, only TU-134, 154 and Yak-42. The first Malev flight to JFK was in 1993 with a B767

Hey Kris...
Malev did indeed operate one IL-62 in 1991 for four months. It was leased from CSA and registered HA-LIA, c/n 4933456. You can see a picture of it in full Malev colors in the book by Jorg Theil, IL-62 Airliner in Service Volume 2.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:51 pm

Guyana flew their TU-154s into JFK back in'86, they were subbibg for their 707s,which were the last regularly scheduled pax 707s into JFK.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:09 pm

Quoting EHHO (Reply 41):
Quoting Olympus69 (Reply 39):
Also I don't understand 'SU'. It obviously doesn't stand for 'Soviet Union' as you have the word Soviet in front of it.

SU is the IATA airline code for Aeroflot Russian Airlines. It used to be the code for Aeroflot Soviet International Airlines, and it stayed that way for the current Aeroflot.

Thanks. I remembered that after it was too late to edit my post  Sad
 
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:04 pm

Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 1):
As far as I know, Russian made commercial aircraft are not allowed into US airspace. I know Cubanas IL-62's had to avoid American airspace when flying to YUL and YYZ. Now Cubana has gotten around that problem by using TACA's A320 to fly into YYZ.

We get AN-124's here in Winterpeg on a fairly regular basis (Once I week, I think) I just never seem to be in the right place at the right time, even though I work right under the flight line. The first time it came in, I was certian she was going to touch down on my truck!
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:38 pm

Tarom Romanian (RO) used to fly IL62s into JFK and ORD via Shannon until 1991 when they replaced them with A310-300.
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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:23 pm


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RE: Tupolev TU154 And The USA

Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:22 am

Quoting Tu154m (Reply 43):
Hey Kris...
Malev did indeed operate one IL-62 in 1991 for four months. It was leased from CSA and registered HA-LIA, c/n 4933456. You can see a picture of it in full Malev colors in the book by Jorg Theil, IL-62 Airliner in Service Volume 2.

WOW, I'll take your word for it. I never Knew that, not even my brother-in-law knew, and he has been a Malev FA for 27 years!!

From Malev.com
-July 29 The hired Il-62 leaves on its first Malév charter flight, to Japan
http://www.malev.hu/BP/ENG/I_PLANESP...TORY_ENG/2002-1117-2031-20TUBP.asp

Thanks!

Krisyyz

[Edited 2005-12-16 16:30:55]

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