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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:45 am

Air India Express continues its expansion on Middle East routes with lower fares. Link:
http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Dis...05&file=Local_News200512172384.xml

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Keralite expatriates who had lobbied aggressively for cheaper airfares between Doha and destinations in their home state are in for a rude shock next April: Air-India Express, the budget airline, will offer fares that on average are, only 15 per cent lower than those of full-service, conventional carriers. In an interview with The Peninsula on Thursday, Air-India's Dubai-based Regional Director, Sanjeev Talwar, said, the budget airline floated by national carrier Air India would operate 12 weekly flights between Doha and various Indian destinations from the third week of April 2006. Of these, three would be to Mumbai, two to New Delhi and the remaining seven shared between the three Kerala cities - Kochi, Kozhikode and Thiruvanathapurm.

These flights will be operated by new, Boeing 737-800 aircraft configured to carry 180 Economy class seats. Talwar said, fares on AI Express would be about 25 per cent lower than those of full-service, conventional carriers but the advantage would be available mainly to those who book their tickets well in advance. "As the day of the flight nears, the margin will lessen but A-I Express tickets, on an average, would cost about 15 per cent lower," he explained.

However, passengers will be offered some sops: A-I Express will serve a free "basic" meal on board but other in-flight attractions such as free strong beverages and choice entertainment, will be missing. Passengers will also have to make-do with only 30kgs free baggage allowance instead of the current 50kgs.
 
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Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:42 am

any clue about how they are going to tackle "Deccan Lanka"...
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:25 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 1):
any clue about how they are going to tackle "Deccan Lanka"...



Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
A-I Express will serve a free "basic" meal on board

Thats one way  Smile
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:04 am

It always hurts me that most Indian travellers and even non-travellers, are so eager to criticise Indian carriers like AI and IC (although these carriers score well over a lot of foreign carriers in many respects)...while constantly heaping praise on foreign carriers.....

Why this biased mentality??
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:17 pm

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 3):
Why this biased mentality

I guess its due to the past reputation of these organisations.Although they have Improved considerably over the years.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:29 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
Keralite expatriates who had lobbied aggressively for cheaper airfares between Doha and destinations in their home state are in for a rude shock next Apri

Yeah, yeah, the Mallu expats want their cake and want to eat it was well. Terms like 'rude shock' are misleading. And I didn't know that 50kgs was the allowed allowance on Y class? AIX will have a basic meal just like Air Arabia, you want class - use EK's expanded services to Kerala.
A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
 
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Mon Dec 19, 2005 6:31 pm

Talk of the Devil, EK just issued this Press Release....

EMIRATES INCREASES FOCUS ON KERALA

WITH EXPANSION IN SERVICES



� Emirates to start services to Thiruvananthapuram

� Existing service to Cochin becomes daily from 1st February 2005

� Airline to also boost services to Chennai





Mumbai, 19th December 2005 � Emirates, one of the world�s fastest growing international airlines, today re-affirmed its commitment to the state of Kerala with the announcement of a significant increase in services starting early next year.



From 1st February 2006, the airline will start services between Dubai and India�s Thiruvananthapuram International Airport. On the same day, it will also increase its service to Cochin from five-a-week to a daily service.



Emirates will fly eight times a week to Thiruvananthapuram, its sixth destination in India and second city in the state of Kerala after Cochin. The airline intends to operate its modern Airbus A330-200 on the route, in a three-class configuration offering seats in First, Business and Economy class, as well as the B777-200 aircraft in a two-class configuration. Both wide-bodied aircraft offer industry-leading comforts including ergonomically designed seats, and personal entertainment systems in all classes.



Effective 1st February 2006, Emirates will add four more flights to Chennai to serve the city eight times a week.



HH Sheikh Ahmed bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, Emirates Chairman, said: �We are very pleased to be able to offer our customers more travel connections to and from India with our new flights to Thiruvananthapuram, and our increased service frequency to Cochin and Chennai.�



�Air transport links form the foundation on which commerce can prosper and on which friendly relations are built. We welcome our new links with Thiruvananthapuram and look forward to growing that relationship.�



Sheikh Ahmed added: �We would like to thank the Government of India for its support. Emirates is committed to contributing to the dynamic Indian economy, and we look forward to facilitating greater tourism and business traffic to the cities which we serve.�



In Thiruvananthapuram, the capital city of the state of Kerala, Emirates will invest in a dedicated sales office to provide top-notch service to its customers, and recruit over 25 staff to manage passenger, airport and cargo operations. The airline also intends to hire more staff in Cochin and Chennai to support its expanded operations.



The airline will promote its newest destination, Thiruvananthapuram, to business and leisure travellers through its sales and marketing efforts.



India is already one of the U.A.E.�s top five major trading partners with total trade volume chalking up over AED 13 billion in 2003. Bilateral ties between both countries continue to strengthen with each passing year.



Emirates� increased services to Cochin and Chennai will cater to the strong demand for seats between Dubai and India, as both booming economies attract growing interest from regional and international business traffic. The added flights will also benefit the large population of expatriates from India�s southern states living and working in the U.A.E.



Emirates currently operates 43 non-stop flights a week between Dubai and India � 19 to Mumbai, seven to Delhi, four to Chennai, five to Cochin and eight to Hyderabad.



Flight Schedules

Below flight schedules are subject to final approval from the respective airport authorities. All timings are local.



Thiruvananthapuram new service

Flight Days Depart Arrive

EK 520 Mon, Tues, Thurs, Sat DXB at 1320 TRV at 1840

EK 521 Mon, Tues, Thurs, Sat TRV at 2010 DXB at 2245



EK 522 Tues, Wed, Fri, Sun DXB at 2155 TRV at 0315*

EK 523 Mon, Wed, Thurs, Sat TRV at 0430 DXB at 0705



Cochin additional services

Flight Days Depart Arrive

EK 530 Tues, Thurs DXB at 0400 COK at 0915

EK 531 Tues, Thurs COK at 1030 DXB at 1305



Chennai additional services

Flight Days Depart Arrive

EK 542 Fri DXB at 2100 MAA at 0215*

EK 543 Sat MAA at 0330 DXB at 0620



EK 544 Wed, Sat, Sun DXB at 0300 MAA at 0820

EK 545 Wed, Sat, Sun MAA at 0935 DXB at 1230



* Next day
A300B2/B4/6R, A313, A319/320/321, A333, A343, A388, 737-2/3/4/7/8/9, 747-3/4, 772/2E/2L/3, E170/190, F70, CR2/7, 146-3,
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:35 am

What news on the S2 B763.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:10 am

EK's increase in frequency/destinations to India is fast. Best of luck to them. Does anyone know how EK and EY divide up the 18,000 seats a week to India? Is it first come first serve?

Looking up MAA to JFK, there is a twelve hour wait at DXB. On the return, there is a four hour wait at DXB. Why didn't they schedule it better given that they have two daily non-stop flights to JFK. When are they going to start their non-stops to LAX, and SFO from DXB?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:57 am

Jet Airways evaluating Boeing 747-800 for non-stop flight to US

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JET Airways is evaluating the Boeing 747-800 aircraft to consider the option of flying non-stop between India and the US, the Chairman, Mr Naresh Goyal, has said.

"The flight to the US is very much on. Initially, we plan to start operating through Brussels. This flight should start early next year. We are also considering the new Boeing aircraft to see whether the airline can do a non-stop service between the two nations," he added.

The new Boeing aircraft being examined by Jet Airways was launched by the US-based aircraft manufacturer in November and serves the 400-500 passengers market. The aircraft has a range of 14,815 km and is scheduled to enter commercial service in September 2009. Earlier this year, Jet Airways was given official permission to operate a three-times-a-week service on the India-Brussels-New York sector.

...
Mr Goyal, however, maintained that there was no case in the US and that the airline will start operating on the route from next year. ....
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:07 am

Airbus-loyalist Deccan looks at B737 in phase II

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In a move which may swing the market share of the world's leading aircraft makers in India, Air Deccan is said to be evaluating the new-generation Boeing 737-800/900 for its next round of fleet expansion.

The airline, which has been a loyal Airbus 320 customer with firm orders for 32 planes in its pocket, is said to be exploring better price options with its American rival. Market sources say the airline may be considering induction of 30-40 planes for the next round of ramp-up.
...
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:49 am

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 11):

After flying A320s why consider the B737NG.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:55 pm

UAE based investment company raises stake in Spice Jet to US $50 million. Good to see capital from abroad flowing into Indian aviation sector. Link:
http://www.ameinfo.com/74480.html

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Earlier this year, Istithmar invested US$12.5 million in SpiceJet. The stake rise comes through SpiceJet's recent issue of Foreign currency Convertible Bonds (FCCB). Istithmar's investment in SpiceJet, its first in India, reflects the group's long term plans in the burgeoning aviation industry in India. The investment is in line with the group's strategy of identifying projects with a strong potential for growth and success.
 
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Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:02 pm

Link:http://www.deepikaglobal.com/ENG3_sub.asp?newscode=127040&catcode=ENG3&subcatcode=

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Chennai-Delhi Indian Airlines plane makes emergency landing
An Indian Airlines plane from Chennai carrying 100 passengers and six crew made an emergency landing at the Palam airport tonight after a hydraulic failure.

The plane, IC-539, which took off from Chennai at 1815hrs, landed at the Palam airt at 2050 hrs safely, an airport spokesman said. "There was a hydraulic failure in the aircraft and a precautionary landing was conducted," the spokesman told UNI.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:08 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 14):
after a hydraulic failure

What component.Was this an A320.
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Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:43 am

Paramount launches Chennai-Delhi flights. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1340607.cms

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The latest airline to take to the Indian skies, Paramount Airways on Weddnesday launched its Chennai- Delhi-Chennai daily flight offering an inaugural fare of Rs 5,999 per ticket and promising 'business class' facilities to all passengers.
The airlines sources said its 'Embraer 170' aircraft with 70-seats, would leave Chennai at 10.35 AM and reach Delhi at 1.15 PM. The return journey would start at 3.05 PM. reach here at 5.45 PM.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:51 am

Hey SQ has also started thrice a week flights to Hyderabad. Pretty cool. they cover all the major metros now.. cant wait for the authorities to build a nice intl airport in chandigarh now!  Smile
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:40 am

If anyone can supply me with some Indian airline timetables, I would be willing to pay a few dollars plus postage for each one. I am particularly interested in Air Deccan, Kingfisher Airlines, Jagson Airlines, and Paramount Airways. If you can help, contact me at dzekria@email.com





 
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Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:55 am

hey. i woudl gladly try to help. you want them in the hard form right? like a hard copy.
What else do u want?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:21 am

Yes, I'm only interested in original airline issued timetables in good condition. That means no photocopies or travel agent issued timetables.

Any Indian airlines, past or present, would be welcome, except for Air India, Indian Airlines, Jet Airways or Sahara, of which I already have quite a few.
 
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Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:19 am

Here we go again. Further delays in awarding contracts for BOM and DEL airport modernization. Link:
http://sg.biz.yahoo.com/051222/15/3xfmm.html

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Panel of Indian ministers Wednesday deferred a decision on selecting bidders for the modernization of Delhi and Mumbai airports, the country's civil aviation minister Praful Patel said Wednesday. The move implies that the government's deadline of finalizing bidders and awarding the contracts on or before December 31 will not be met.

"A committee of five secretaries, headed by the cabinet secretary, will now look into the process and submit their recommendation to the empowered group of ministers within two weeks," said Patel without elaborating. The federal government's left-wing allies have been opposing the modernization of the two airports disagreeing with the selection criteria for the bidders.

The Indian government plans to form two joint venture companies which will restructure and modernize the two busiest airports in the country. Private companies will hold a 74% stake in the venture and remaining 26% will be held by Airports Authority of India and other government companies. The successful bidders will be allowed to run the airports on a 30-year lease, which can further be extended by another 30 years.

The Indian government will, however, handle "sovereign functions" such as airport security, customs, immigration and air traffic control
 
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Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:08 pm

Impressive air cargo growth in India. No wonder Jet Airways is looking to start a freight carrier. Link:
http://news.webindia123.com/news/showdetails.asp?id=196442&cat=India

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The government today said that there has been a 12.4 per cent growth rate in air cargo over the last ten years. In a written reply to the Rajya Sabha, Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel said during the year 2004-05, there has been an annual growth of 27.1 percent over the previous year.
 
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Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:12 pm

Premier Air, a new LCC, to begin operations from Oct 2006. Link:
http://www.centreforaviation.com/avi...n_Low_Cost_Airline_sector_in_2006/

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Premier Air, a proposed new Chennai-based LCC announced the following launch details:

Base: Chennai; Launch: Oct-06;
Network: Connecting all major metropolitan cities, with major focus on South Indian cities;
Fleet: Six aircraft; Investment: USD50 million; Investors: Group of US-based NRIs.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:56 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 23):
Fleet: Six aircraft

What type.
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:29 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 24):
What type.

No details on aircraft type in article.
 
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:34 am

Air France long term plans for India. Link:
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...C12%5C18%5Cstory_18-12-2005_pg5_28

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Air France plans to increase its flights to India by 20 to 25 percent a year over the next three years and hopes to see the superjumbo Airbus A380 land there by 2010, the airline’s chief said Friday. “Our short- and medium-term projects for the next three years are to expand our services by 20 to 25 percent each year to be on par with, or perhaps a bit ahead of, Lufthansa and British Airways, the airlines of reference in Europe for India,” said Air France-KLM chairman Jean-Cyril Spinetta.

“Two years ago, Air France operated 10 flights a week to India; this year, the number is 29, or a tripling of capacity in less than two years,” he added. On November 1, Air France launched service between Paris and India’s technology hub Bangalore. Spinetta said the French carrier plans to soon link the two cities with a daily direct service, up from five flights a week.

Air France currently serves five cities in India: New Delhi, Mumbai (formerly Bombay), Chennai (formerly Madras), Hyderabad and Bangalore. Since the beginning of the Airbus 330-200 service from Bangalore, center of India’s booming high-tech sector, “the response has been very promising,” Spinetta told AFP. The passenger load factor has risen to 90 percent in December from 80 percent in November, with many passengers opting for a Paris stopover for connecting flights to Europe, Africa and North America, Spinetta said.

The carrier has asked the French government to open a visa office in Bangalore to process visa applications faster and spur more business and leisure travel. “With Bangalore alone accounting for about 20 percent of our traffic from India, we’re upbeat about its potential to generate more passengers for our service, thanks to the rapid growth of the knowledge sector, especially the IT and BT (biotech) services,” Spinetta said.
 
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:44 am

Interesting interview with Jet Airways executive. No approval yet on India-USA application. Link:
http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1002916&CatID=4

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Question
Your competitors are not only expanding their network and fleet, but are also eating into your market share. Your market share is down from over 46% to around 40% in less than a year. How is Jet coping with the challenges that today’s market has thrown up?
Answer
It is inevitable that, in an expanding market, our market share would be affected slightly. But, we are still ahead of others and have a very good track record of reliability and punctuality that will stand us in good stead. We are generating new capacity and our yields management system helps us beat competition. Also, with the airport infrastructure being what they are today, it won’t be long before the congestion will make it difficult for new airlines to start off smoothly.


Q
What is the status of your application to the US Department of Transport to fly into the US? (The airline’s plan to start US services has hit a hurdle after a US firm accused it of having links with Islamic terrorist outfits).
A
We are still awaiting approval from the US government. We haven’t heard either from the Indian or the US government. They are investigating into the allegation.
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Naresh Goyal has announced that by 2009, 50% of Jet’s revenues would come from international operations. How do you plan to achieve that?
A
We will be spreading out to international points like Africa, Mauritius, South Africa, Frankfurt, Paris, Milan, Bangkok, Hong Kong and several other destinations. The US fiasco notwithstanding, we are still firm on our decision to fly to the east and west coast of that country. We have used the aircraft on the London sector. Encouraged by the response on the UK sector, we will double our flight frequency (14-flight-a-week) to the Heathrow airport. That is, if we get government approval. We are registering over 70% load factor on our flights to London. With more than 1.5 million passengers flying to the UK every year, there is still immense potential to be tapped on this sector.
 
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Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:12 pm

Fog delays flights at Delhi. Link:
http://www.ndtv.com/topstories/showt...n+Delhi&id=18424&category=National

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Heavy fog in Delhi has delayed air and train services in the morning hours.
At least 40 domestic flights were delayed - among them were services operated by Jet Airways, Indian Airlines, Air Deccan and Air Sahara.
About 12 international flights operated behind schedule and they might also be diverted to Lucknow, Jaipur, Ahmedabad or Mumbai.

To avert a crisis airport authorities installed the Category 3B landing systems at Indira Gandhi International airport, which guides pilots landing in low-visibility conditions. But civil aviation ministry sources said only Air India and Indian Airlines pilots are trained to use the system.
 
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:02 am

Last night Fog struck Del.
After 0330 RVR dropped below 600m.
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 1:24 am

Air Arabia to fly to Kerala. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1344146.cms

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Sharjah-based United Arab Emirates (UAE) national budget airlines Air-Arabia can now fly into Kerala as the central government has given it the required approval.
Kerala Chief Minister Oommen Chandy said Friday: "The central government has now given the nod to Air-Arabia to fly into Kerala but the decision now rests on the airlines to start their services. We feel the flights would benefit Keralites."
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Sat Dec 24, 2005 2:29 am

A-I to phase out old aircraft, Indian to follow

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Air India (A-I) is phasing out its oldest jumbo, Boeing 747-200, on grounds that the aircraft is a fuel guzzler and requires high cost of maintenance. Airline sources said the move is part of A-I’s strategy to rationalise its fleet to three types of aircraft — B747-400, B777 and B787 (Boeing Dreamliner).

The fleet of eight A310s will also be grounded around ’08-09 after the arrival of new Boeing aircraft worth $8bn. While A-I decided to decommission two B747-200s in ’04, the phaseout is to take place this year. Also, two more 747-200s were listed for phaseout following board approval recently. The aircraft are being disposed of in two parts, hull and engines, an official said.
...
The two B747-300 Combis operated by A-I on the west and other long distance sectors are also likely to be limited to the Gulf and African routes once new noise regulations are promulgated by the EU in ’06-07. These planes were bought in the late 80s. Two Airbus 310s from A-I’s fleet are also tipped for conversion into freighters in September ’07 by EADS in Europe.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:19 pm

can anyone assist with sources for domestic and international pax for India since 1995??

Total pax and yearly growth rates would be appreciated.

Cheers!
 
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:57 pm

Air Arabia, the international low-fare carrier in India and Kingfisher Airlines, have announced an alliance.

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This will facilitate passengers of both the airlines to connect to destinations through Air Arabia�s website. Here, Indian passengers from five of Kingfisher�s destinations will have convenient and affordable connectivity to the Gulf. Passengers from Goa, Kolkota, Cochin, Bangalore and Delhi (Kingfisher Airline�s destinations from Mumbai), can now take advantage of low fares to Sharjah and beyond, as a result of this alliance. ...
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:48 pm

Does anyone have any numbers on the number of BOM-DEL flights per day ? Do most of the airlines in the BOM-DEL sector ever discount their fare ?
 
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Sat Dec 24, 2005 7:03 pm

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 32):
can anyone assist with sources for domestic and international pax for India since 1995??

Total pax and yearly growth rates would be appreciated.

Cheers!

Directorate General of Civil Aviation - www.dgca.nic.in - it has all the audited statistics in their annual reports.

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 33):
Does anyone have any numbers on the number of BOM-DEL flights per day ? Do most of the airlines in the BOM-DEL sector ever discount their fare ?

There are close to 50 flights a day between BOM-DEL and vice-versa, half of the services are on IC and 9W. The other carriers share the rest. If you want to find the cheapest fares just check out www.makemytrip.com
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Sun Dec 25, 2005 2:13 am

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 29):
Last night Fog struck Del.
After 0330 RVR dropped below 600m.

How badly is that affecting flights in and out of Northern India? I remember in 1999, United had to put me up in London for 2 days because I could get a flight back to the States, and my mother was stuck in Delhi for an extra 3 days.
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Sun Dec 25, 2005 6:21 am

BMI to offer 7% commission to travel agents in India. I think it is a move in the right direction. BMI should do well when UK/USA restrictions are lifted as it is sitting on a lot of gate slots at LHR. Link:
http://www.expresstravelandtourism.com/200512/market20.shtml

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Taking the unconventional route, British Mid-lands (bmi), UK's second largest full service scheduled airline, has gone ahead offering seven per cent commission to travel agents instead of the current five percent. According to Ravi Pikle, bmi's commercial development manager, "We believe that the travel agent plays a very crucial role in the entire process. We feel that as a carrier which has established itself on the market place, we need to build relationships."

bmi also has plans to have daily flights from Heathrow to Mumbai from April 2006. "We will be increasing the frequency and the fares will not be affected as it depends completely on market conditions and seasonality,"
 
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:00 pm

No word on the Air India expansion into the US? IAD, IAH and SFO were being mentioned last summer.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Sun Dec 25, 2005 1:43 pm

Quoting Toxtethogrady (Reply 39):

they've announced it so often that people have stopped taking interest and will only sit back and take note when they actually have the planes to start the service.


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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:38 am

Apologies if it's already been discussed - I haven't looked.

Air India will soon take delivery of B772 VT-AIR. It's not an -ER version.

RK  spin 
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:48 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 41):
Air India will soon take delivery of B772 VT-AIR. It's not an -ER version.

cool!! but if it is not ER then is it that older one. The real rustbucket!! Is this the one belong to UA and leased to RG till now.

I like the registration VT-AIR Big grin
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:04 am

No, it's older than that  Wow!. It's line# 8.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:18 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 43):
No, it's older than that {Wow}!. It's line# 8.

Can it fly the standard FRA-LAX type of sectors that the other AI 772 often need to do?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:25 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 29):
Last night Fog struck Del.

Mel, I was in Gurgaon on friday evening, very near to the airport. We were having a small stag get together. Believe me, around 2am in the night, the fog descended and visibility was very low. So thick was the fog that when we decided to walk around, the light from the street lights was just appearing as a glow and we had to follow our instincts to find our way back to my friends house.

I can imagine what its like for a pilot!!!
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:59 pm

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 38):

I don't think the Private Operators will want to spend $$$ on the training of their Pilots [Crew set training] for just 2 months of Fog].They'll find it cheaper to operate after Fog clears up.Whereas AI & IC can afford to.

Quoting RobK (Reply 41):
Air India will soon take delivery of B772 VT-AIR. It's not an -ER version

Nice Reg VT-AIR.When is it arriving.Whats the "Raga" name..

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 45):
So thick was the fog that when we decided to walk around, the light from the street lights was just appearing as a glow and we had to follow our instincts to find our way back to my friends house.

Guru.
I've Experienced Del Fog on the roads its like walking in a room full of smoke & the Famous maglite is Ineffective too.
Out here at BOM its 13 degC at night with Winds.This year fog is going to be long & Bad.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:17 pm

The "new" 777 was reported ferrying AFW to Stansted overnight on 20-21 Dec but I can't find anything on the trackers under ex UAL reg, an AIC flight no. or even a SXA flight no. so I'm rather sceptical that it actually took place. Additionally, no flight plan could be found either.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:17 am

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus...grades~to~CAT-III~B~Landing~System

this is my first posting on this forum. am not sure if this link will work about DEL upgrading to cat IIIB.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 2

Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:42 am

Quoting AI (Reply 48):
this is my first posting on this forum. am not sure if this link will work about DEL upgrading to cat IIIB.

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