bhxdtw
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AA More Room In Coach

Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:30 pm

Hi can anyone tell me if AA still has 'More room in coach' ??
and if so is it on the LHRLAX route and vv.
Also anyone know what booking class in GDS it is ??

Kind regards,

Jordan
 
JBLUA320
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:42 pm

I believe MRTC has been removed from all aircraft!

JBLU
 
richardw
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Tue Dec 20, 2005 8:48 pm

If it is a good price go for it, the crew are great on this route.
 
lapper
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:26 pm

AA still had MRTC on LHR-LAX in May, I beleive it is still there for international services at the moment. Any booking class for economy will get you the seats (More Room THROUGHOUT Coach)  Wink

Have a look at http://www.seatguru.com to give you an idea of the best seat rows for AA's 777's.
 
AirCop
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Tue Dec 20, 2005 10:09 pm

MRTC is history. Being tall I can really tell the difference. and after a couple of trans-Atlantic flights on American, I would ask why would you want to fly them, unless they are that much cheaper?
 
ckfred
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:54 pm

The only planes that completely lost MRTC are the 757s and the A300s. AA put 2 rows of coach seats back into those planes.

The rest of the fleet, MD-80s, 737s, 767s, and 777s, had only 1 row of coach put back.

I can't speak for the rest of the fleet, but the MD-80s are a little hit and miss. Some of the seats on the 3-side are still roomy, but some of the seats on the 2-side are tight. AA took out the closet on the 2-side that divided first and coach and put in 2 first-class seats. It appears that the extra fow of seats in first take more space in the cabin than the closet did.
 
bhxdtw
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:58 pm

Thanks guys !!
needed the info..Im not the traveller, I had to get some comparisons between BA, VS, AA on the LHRLAX route..

Jordan
 
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:09 am

This thread is quite old. Has been discussed over and over here.
MRTC is practically gone. Just a few B738 and even few others keep it until today. Definitely it was a bad marketing policy.

[Edited 2005-12-20 16:09:50]
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ckfred
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:23 am

TACAA320:

It wasn't a bad marketing policy. It was just bad marketing. From what I understand, AA marketed MRTC in its major markets, Boston, New York, Miami, Chicago, D/FW, L.A., and San Francisco. But the marketing was never pushed nationwide.
 
richardw
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:27 am

...or even to London.

If there were 2 of you travelling on a B777 or B767 it was very comfortable. I went to LAX, JFK and MIA from LHR.
 
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:07 am

You'll get MRTC version II: more rows throughout coach Big grin
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:44 am

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 8):
It wasn't a bad marketing policy. It was just bad marketing. From what I understand, AA marketed MRTC in its major markets, Boston, New York, Miami, Chicago, D/FW, L.A., and San Francisco. But the marketing was never pushed nationwide.

It really wouldn't have mattered, the result would have been the same. Before TWA was bought by AA, they experimented with "Comfort Class", which is basically the same thing as MRTC. It didn't work then, it didn't work for AA. Price rules.
 
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:28 am

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 10):
You'll get MRTC version II: more rows throughout coach

LOL
 
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:46 am

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 6):
Thanks guys !!
needed the info..Im not the traveller, I had to get some comparisons between BA, VS, AA on the LHRLAX route..

Don't forget UA. They still have Economy Plus and fly that route on a 777 daily. Oh, and NZ still flies it too.
 
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:52 am

just for kicks I looked up LAX-LHR in March and it was CHEAP! 500 dollars R/T. Good for AA with keeping MRTC in Int'l routes.

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pilottim747
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:12 am

According to www.seatguru.com the AA 777s are back to 31-32" seat pitch. Back to the industry standards.

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dc-10 levo
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:21 am

My Mum and Dad flew LHR-JFK for a weekend break last week and they said the leg room was extremely good. I think it's 36" isn't it?

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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:23 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 7):
Definitely it was a bad marketing policy.

Pity.

I used to go out of my way to fly to JFK to catch an AA flight to Europe just for the MRTC. Now, I'll just use miles to upgrade on tacky United from Dulles.
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gipper913
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:57 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17):
Pity.

I used to go out of my way to fly to JFK to catch an AA flight to Europe just for the MRTC. Now, I'll just use miles to upgrade on tacky United from Dulles.

Doing the same! I miss the MRTC! Used to go out of my way to fly AA....now I only do so when my CC mileage is such that I can get free FC / Biz Class seats. Ironic that the LCCs now have better legroom - I'll take B6 A320 LGB-JFK rather than AA in coach on a 767 from LAX-JFK - for the LEGROOM!
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pgtravel
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:48 am

Quoting Gipper913 (Reply 18):
Doing the same! I miss the MRTC! Used to go out of my way to fly AA....now I only do so when my CC mileage is such that I can get free FC / Biz Class seats. Ironic that the LCCs now have better legroom - I'll take B6 A320 LGB-JFK rather than AA in coach on a 767 from LAX-JFK - for the LEGROOM!

Compare B6 to UA though and it's not as good on LAX/LGB-JFK. UA has all Y+ on the p.s. service, so it's 34" throughout. B6 is 32" in front of the wing and 34" behind. And UA will still serve you a hot meal (talk about a rarity).
 
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 11:48 am

Quoting Goingboeing (Reply 11):
Price rules.

Nothing could be more true. Everyone wants it until it is time to pay for it....

AJMIA
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:15 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17):
Pity.



Quoting Gipper913 (Reply 18):
Doing the same! I miss the MRTC!

Tell me about it. I loved flying AA during those days coz it really made a difference on long haul flights.

Quoting BHXDTW (Reply 6):
I had to get some comparisons between BA, VS, AA on the LHRLAX route..

Try VS... The F/A's are hot (no disrespect to other airlines F/A's)  biggrin 
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:53 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17):

I used to go out of my way to fly to JFK to catch an AA flight to Europe just for the MRTC.

That's what I always prefer BA over AA. With and without the so "famous" MRTC. Service, security, friendliness, good clean modern aircrafts, I find every single detail better in BA tan AA. Even LH [without PTV] is a much better choice.
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:38 am

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 8):
It wasn't a bad marketing policy. It was just bad marketing. From what I understand, AA marketed MRTC in its major markets, Boston, New York, Miami, Chicago, D/FW, L.A., and San Francisco. But the marketing was never pushed nationwide.

AA did advertise nationally. What you just described is a national advertising schedule with local buys. No airline advertises is every market. The cost would not be worth it for the small number of people being reached. For example, it would make no sense for AA to run a full-page newspaper ad in, say, Minneapolis. Airlines simply do their marketing in their key markets/largest markets.

Also, there is a difference between a marketing message and how that message gets out to the public. You can have a great message, but it does no good if nobody sees the marketing. Conversely, you can have a bad message that gets out to everyone.

In this case I think AA had a good message and reached the right people. The MRTC product was just not right for the current market.
 
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RE: AA More Room In Coach

Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:26 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 21):
Try VS... The F/A's are hot (no disrespect to other airlines F/A's)

Hey Tink...
true dat !!  bouncy   bouncy 

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