United737522
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UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:11 pm

Hey all,

Quick question; does row 17 bulkhead have PTVs. From this pic I don't see any, so I have to ask to make sure.
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I am in 17A if that makes any difference.

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dalb777
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:13 pm

They probably have PTV's that fold under the arm rest. I know DL 777s have that for seats behind the bulkhead.
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:21 pm

Every seat on UA 777 has a PTV in it. As Dalb777 pointed out, it folds from under the arm rest along with a tray table.

I remember when I flew on SK A330, EWR-CPH-EWR couple of years ago, I walked to see the seat I had assigned for the return trip, which turned out to be in the exit row. Since I didn't see a PTV in that seat, I changed it when checking in for my return flight. Only then I found out that I did that stupidly, because SK, just like UA, has a PTV that folds down, at least in the exit row.

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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:26 pm

Question. What is the purpose of that little slat (or window) in the bulkhead that opens up? Sometimes I've seen it left open, and other times closed. The 320s and 319s have it on the F-Y bulkheads, too.
 
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:29 pm

Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 3):
Question. What is the purpose of that little slat (or window) in the bulkhead that opens up? Sometimes I've seen it left open, and other times closed. The 320s and 319s have it on the F-Y bulkheads, too.

So the air marshal can peek through? Hehe... I don't know either.
 
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Wed Dec 21, 2005 4:01 pm

Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 3):
Question. What is the purpose of that little slat (or window) in the bulkhead that opens up? Sometimes I've seen it left open, and other times closed. The 320s and 319s have it on the F-Y bulkheads, too.

The FAA requires that a Flight attendant be able to see a certain percentage of passengers (think its 80%) while they are seated in there jumpseats. Its a security/safety rule that was in place long before 9-11. It only applies to aircraft delivered after a certain date hence the reason why its only on the Airbusses and 777's.
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:20 pm

Quoting UA772IAD (Reply 3):
Question. What is the purpose of that little slat (or window) in the bulkhead that opens up? Sometimes I've seen it left open, and other times closed. The 320s and 319s have it on the F-Y bulkheads, too.

it was always opened during takeoff and landing for the reason that United1 stated, but i am not too sure that its still a requirement.
 
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:37 pm

Interesting- thanks. Of course, it seems the FAs wouldn't be able to see anything, since their view from jumpseats on the Airbus' and 777 in particular is obstructed by the lavatory and C class.
 
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:25 am

It is indeed a safety issue - in case of an emergency f/a's can more easily see passengers and possibly direct them during an evacuation.
It also give a roomier feel to the cabin and I certainly wouldn't mind if they kept it open during the entire flight.
 
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:58 am

Quoting Levg79 (Reply 2):
Every seat on UA 777 has a PTV in it.

Only the international configured ones do (3 class cabin). United's domestic 777's (2 class cabin) do not have PTVs. Same thing goes with the 767's.
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United737522
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:08 am

Hmmm... Ok, that sounds ok, but a follow up question: Does it have to be stowed during takeoff and landing?
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Thu Dec 22, 2005 4:14 am

Quoting Brick (Reply 9):
Only the international configured ones do (3 class cabin). United's domestic 777's

Which are Uniteds domestic 777s? Can you give me registrations please.

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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Thu Dec 22, 2005 6:59 am

Quoting United737522 (Reply 10):
Hmmm... Ok, that sounds ok, but a follow up question: Does it have to be stowed during takeoff and landing?

Yes, they have to be stowed during takeoff and landing. Some airlines have cameras mounted on their planes showing external views (Austrian for example), in which case you may not want a bulkhead seat as you won't be able to watch the plane landing.

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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:11 am

Quoting Lindy (Reply 11):
Which are Uniteds domestic 777s? Can you give me registrations please.

Rafal

Umm, lets see:
N210UA, N211UA, N212UA, N213UA, N214UA, N215UA. I think that's it, maybe some of the lower 200s (like N207UA, for example)
 
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RE: UA E+ Bulkhead 777

Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:49 pm

Why would you care about PTV when flying UA if you have a much better form of entertainment.....it's called Ch.9!!!

I'll always remember flying UA 800 NRT-JFK and, upon approach into JFK, hearing something like "United 800 heavy, New York approach, expect runway 13 left." Then the pilot, sounding pissed, said something like "13 left???" and the controller asked "Is there a problem?" to which our pilot immediately responded "No, no problem". Ah, you just have to love the Canarsie approach. At the moment, I couldn't care less if there was a PTV or not. Besides I spent most of the 12 hour flight just looking at the airshow and listening to Ch. 9.

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