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Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 12:22 am

Today a man hijacked a Philipine Ailines A330. The hijacker then jumped out of the aft left door.
This sounds all very dramatic, can anyone add to this story or express you opinions?
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agrodemm
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 1:17 am

I wonder how he got the parachute on the plane... I mean it is not the first time to have guns/grenades in a plane.... but a parachute? Even folded it is still big enough to recognise.
By the way what would you say if you carried a parachute aboard, and being asked about that?
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Ilyushin96M
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 1:30 am

From what I've heard, first, the man took all the passenger's money and valubles, then jumped from the plane using a home-made parachute. As far as the parachute getting past check-in, it was probably only recogniseable as a large piece of cloth or a wrapped blanket, given that it was home-made.

Stranger things have happened. I'm sure many Forum members can recall the story of the famous bank robber D.B. Cooper, who hijacked a Northwest Airlines 727-100, then forced the pilot to fly low over the woods while he jumped from the rear airstairs. He was never found.
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 1:38 am

Ok on news that i have heard.
A man got a parachute from the cockpit. im thinking, the pilots have parachutes.
OK i think im starting to believe Ilyushin96M now for his explanation. Hehehe imagin you carrying a parachute on board.
"uhh...excuse me sir, why are you carrying a parachute?"

hehe....i think this is humerous in a way but its actually happened.

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agrodemm
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 1:39 am

Home made parachute?????
This guy must have been really desperate.... I mean, in order to make a jump, one should rely very much on the material-size-shape of the parachute, not to mention the enhancements and reinforcements in some parts. Also, the way the parachute is folded plays a critical part in the jump itself....
Any more details about D.B. Cooper, who hijacked a Northwest Airlines 727-100?
Thanks
emmanuel
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 1:49 am

I agree with you Agrodemm, i think this man would have been very desperate if he made a home made parachute!!!

Any more news guys?
Has the man been found?
how can there bee such bad security latting an armed man on the plane and even more carying a parachute.
pathetic airport security!
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 1:57 am

Here is a link to the story...
http://cnn.com/2000/ASIANOW/southeast/05/25/philippines.hijack.03/index.html
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 2:06 am

Ouch!
 
teahan
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 2:10 am

How badly damaged is the plane? The door must have been forced open!

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DB Cooper Died

Fri May 26, 2000 2:21 am

Several years later a skeleton was found along with some of the marked money from that episode. Although there is no positive ID on the skeleton the money was definately the ransom. Most thoughtful observers conclude that DB died. The only other conclusion is that he didn't really want the money and left it behind
 
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No Damage To A330

Fri May 26, 2000 2:22 am

Teahan, the pilot descended to a safe altitude to open the door so the hijacker could jump. Much the way the NWA pilot did for D.B. Cooper in the early '70s (I think it was). At lower altitudes, opening a door would not cause explosive decompression. Actually, I don't believe aircraft doors CAN be opened at high altitudes; I think unless they blow off, they are fail-safe, because pressurisation keeps them tight against the airframe. The pilot would have to descend, then deliberately decrease cabin pressure to allow a door to open.
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 2:31 am

If he jumped out of a front door, would he get sucked into the engine?

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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 2:39 am

If he didn't FOD an engine on egress, he'd likely fracture his skull/break his back on the leading edge of the wing or tail.lol
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 2:42 am

Weird story this one, as well as the one of D.B. Cooper. It reminds me of a very sad incedent that happend in Greece some years ago...
A man (A Dutch citizen if I remember well) with his Scuba diving suit and gear was found burned in a mountain... what really happened: The poor-unlike guy was scuba diving in an area where fire-planes were diving to load with sea water... in one dive he was sucked in the plane and dropped in the burning mountain... He was found (I think) 3-4 years later...
Sad story  
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 3:38 am

There are no parachutes in the cockpit. Imagine the pilots jumping in front of the passengers: "Sorry guys the landing gear wouldn't go down."
When I was young I used to believe that the life vest under the seats are parachutes.  
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Agrodemm/DB Cooper

Fri May 26, 2000 5:09 am

If you send me an e-mail I'll send you an entire article on DB Cooper from a recent Airliners issue.
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 8:22 am

I live in Washington, and around here, the D.B. Cooper story is about as famous as Big Foot! I'm not completely familiar with the entire story, sad to say, but from what I've heard: A few bones (not a complete skeleton) were found, but no teeth for a dental match. Near the bones, some of the money was found buried . . . but not all of it. If you believe it, the current theory/folklore goes that these are the bones of a collaborator of Mr. Cooper, which were used, along with the money, to make people believe he had died. Officially, I believe D.B. Cooper is still listed as 'missing.'

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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 8:29 am

I belive they found about $5700.00 by the Columbia River in 1980.
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 12:26 pm

Speaking of security at Third World airports, is it any wonder why terroists, hijackers and other scum of the earth find Third World airlines and airports so attractive? Not to mention how easily the security people can be made to look the other way by bribing or other means of corruption.
 
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Samurai (Was RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330)

Fri May 26, 2000 2:33 pm

Your statement is crass and uncalled for. As if that wouldn't happen in Europe or the USA (see American Airlines employees arrested for drugs).

I've been to a few 'third world' countries and their security has been on par with if not even better than the more 'developed' countries. Why do a fair percentage of these 'third world' countries have better literacy rates and education systems than their more well off counterparts?

Keep your rhetoric off of airliners.net please.
 
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RE: Samurai (Was RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330)

Fri May 26, 2000 2:49 pm

no, we don't have parachutes in the cockpit 
I could just about see the chaos: "well ladies and gents, please brace yourselves for a crash landing. Captain Smith and myself are gonna hand things over to our purser, Ms. Brown. Excuse us while we save our necks and oh yeah, thanks for flying ABC airlines!"
lol
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 3:30 pm

Latest is that the body of the "hijacker" was found...
The home made parachtute did not open.

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Panman(Was RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330)

Fri May 26, 2000 3:32 pm

I'm very sorry if I have offended or insulted anyone here, and I know I really shouldn't have said that. (hanging head in great shame.) But remember, everyone's welcome to express whatever they want as long as it's on topic and not too hostile with foul and insulting language. While I do tend to say things without thinking first, I am in no way biased against people in developing nations or their ways! And don't even think that I'm some ignorant wanking jackass who doesn't know anything, either! (eyes flashing in anger)

As a matter of fact, it is true that there are quite a few developing nations do have respectable and even very high quality education systems compared to the richer nations. (Relaxing now) And with much lower taxes and more liberal free enterprises, you should see how much faster some of their economies have been growing. Yes, many airports there actually do have good or excellent security. Especially in Southeast and East Asia. But I have had a least a couple of friends who damned well near got detained or stranded, unless they bribed someone! And they didn't do anything criminal! (Once again, eyes growing angry and darkness overcoming my face)

What happens is there are many airports in Third World nations often lack the resources to improve the security checks. And also, there are government which lack the resources to police their countries effectively without having to resort to a large military presence in civilian areas (I'm told this is common in West Africa) even when there's no war, or having to resort to extreme penalties for crimes. The Middle East(not all of it though) is a good example, but that's due to their following the Shari'a, or Islamic law, if I remember correctly. A better example is Malaysia and Thailand, which have a death penalty for drug trafficking, but that is also a whole other story. (no expression here)

I'm not blind to the risks of terrorism or hijacking in the US or Europe, either, thank you. I've heard of quite a few stories about baggage handlers sticking drugs or other illegal stuff in other people's baggage, so that the owner's to blame when the security dogs come a-sniffing. And once, a plan by terrists to blow up as many as 10-12 airliners going in and out of the US was uncovered by the feds and Interpol before these guy got very far. Ever heard of the apalling practice of covering up shoddy security tactics at various US airports? Even after the Pan Am crash at Lockerbie, a good number of US airports still hadn't done much to improve security, even at JFK or ATL, a year later or so.

Many of my friends and relatives have travelled to places like Thailand, Korea and South Africa, and even Nigeria and they have experienced little or no problems at all in travelling there. (Grin)

Hope you accept my sincere apologies, but beware - if this or that "rhetoric" sparks a nasty war or worse, I will ask the administrator to remove the entire posting, topic and all! I am not here to cause trouble or offend others in this forum! (Relaxed stance, eyebrows raised)
 
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Body Found, But No Money!

Fri May 26, 2000 3:47 pm

Authorites did indeed find the body, but not the money. It seems like a grim irony of the D.B. Cooper case! Very likely, the money simply landed in a different location. According to the government, the motive was not political, but rather because the man had family problems.

This is the coverage from CNN:
http://cnn.com/2000/ASIANOW/southeast/05/25/philippines.hijack.05.ap/index.html
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 6:00 pm

News reports in Sweden this morning indicates that the man was found in a lake burried deep into the mud. Soldiers had dig the body out. The depth of the body indicates that the man hit the ground at high speed.
Apperntly the parashute seperated from the man right after he jumped. Scand
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 9:47 pm

There is no rule that forbids the carriage of parachutes as cabin baggage. I know of a skydiver who claimed he always flew with his chute as carry-on baggage. There is no need to feel that they could be used. It is physically impossible to open an airliner door even when on the ground. A positive air pressure differential is always maintained making the opening of the plug-style doors impossible.


A D.B. Cooper-style exit from a 727.


Hmmmm...
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J32driver
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 10:07 pm

Most airplanes can't remain pressurized on the ground unless maintenance is performing a check. The pressurization systems are linked to a "squat switch" so the cabin dumps and equalizes the pressure as it lands. This is a safety function so some poor flight attendant doesn't get shot 20 feet across the ramp as she opens the door after a flight (its actually happened). Picture the muppet "Gonzo" being shot from a cannon!

BTW, VERY COOL PICTURE!
 
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RE: Hijacker Jumps Out Of An A330

Fri May 26, 2000 11:33 pm

The poor guy!  

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Second Photo

Sat May 27, 2000 8:26 am

Just for interests's sake, here is the second photo in that "D.B. Cooper" sequence. Notice the perfect skydiver form, arms out to the side, legs spread, strong arch of the back. He's definitely a very experienced jumper. Either that, or he's had it with the inflight service. Could be either one.




Hmmmm...

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