PanAm747LHR
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AMS Gate Info

Mon Dec 26, 2005 2:39 pm

Hi everyone! Merry Christmas!

I was just wondering where gate information for AMS is available. Neither KLM's nor Northwest's websites give specific gate numbers. I also tried www.schiphol.nl. I'm trying to find out where KL 658 usually arrives, and where KL 1131 usually departs from. (I'm flying EWR-AMS-CPH with KL tomorrow!)

Hope those of you who were celebrating had a great holiday!

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RE: AMS Gate Info

Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:12 pm

There is no "usually" in this case, flights are not fixed to gates. They do usually arrive at a certain pier. You can check the departing flights' gate numbers on the Schiphol website.

Usually it's like this:

Pier B: Transavia, Finnair, Iberia, Sterling, Lufthansa, Alitalia, Austrian, SAS, Air Berlin

Pier C: KLM short haul, Transavia

Pier D: KLM short haul, Transavia, Martinair, Easyjet, BMI, British Airways, Aer Lingus, sometimes a KLM 767 or MD11, ArkeFly

Pier E: KLM long haul, Northwest, Singapore, Cathay, China Southern, Kuweiti

Pier F: KLM long haul, Northwest, JAL

Pier G: United, Delta, Continental, US Airways, Martinair, Air China, Arkefly, Varig

Pier H: (new low cost without jetways) Easyjet, SkyEurope, BMI baby

This is just off the top of my head, I'm sure I've missed some and sometimes they still don't stick to this, but it's a global overview.

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RE: AMS Gate Info

Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:29 pm

Quoting Grbld (Reply 1):
There is no "usually" in this case, flights are not fixed to gates. They do usually arrive at a certain pier.

This is correct. Officially, the gate numbers are designated the day before by the airport. However airlines like LH, TP, BA, AZ, IB, OS and SK do get the same gates often as this a) makes planning a lot easier and b) some airlines may have facilities at the gate especially for them. For example LH uses two specific gates at the B pier just like IB

Quoting Grbld (Reply 1):
Pier B: Transavia, Finnair, Iberia, Sterling, Lufthansa, Alitalia, Austrian, SAS, Air Berlin

and TAP
 
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:54 pm

Quoting Grbld (Reply 1):
Pier E: KLM long haul, Northwest, Singapore, Cathay, China Southern, Kuweiti

KU is not operating into AMS anymore
CZ is always on gates F

Quoting Grbld (Reply 1):
Pier F: KLM long haul, Northwest, JAL

JL is always on gate E (especially E20/22/24)

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RE: AMS Gate Info

Mon Dec 26, 2005 6:54 pm

Quoting PanAm747LHR (Thread starter):
I also tried www.schiphol.nl.

www.schiphol.nl should do the trick when you click details. For example, today's KL1131 will depart from gate C07 and today's KL657 left from F07. A B744Combi, btw, no A332. That's your a/c tomorrow! Enjoy!

Arriving flights don't always show the gate.
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Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:24 pm

Quoting Grbld (Reply 1):

Pier D: KLM short haul, Transavia, Martinair, Easyjet, BMI, British Airways, Aer Lingus, sometimes a KLM 767 or MD11, ArkeFly

Pier E: KLM long haul, Northwest, Singapore, Cathay, China Southern, Kuweiti

Pier F: KLM long haul, Northwest, JAL

Small correction: NW only at gates E, never at F. Easyjet now only at gates H. KQ almost always at F03, 05 or 07, BR at E22 or 24. KL332 also at gate D47 every once in a while, and the other day I handled a KL T7 to NBO at D47 too.
Private Air's B737 usually at D03 or 05, and so on. There's a preference as you can see, but it will vary according to availability.
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:33 pm

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 4):
A B744Combi, btw, no A332. That's your a/c tomorrow! Enjoy!
B74E Just departed Schiphol for EWR. The flight to CPH will most likely be a B738.
Transfer at Schiphol is relatively easy, as all piers connect to the same terminal building. Disadvantage are the large walking distances.
Enjoy your visit to AMS.

[Edited 2005-12-26 11:37:50]
 
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:36 pm

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 6):
a A332 is bound to leave for Washington this afternoon.

He's flying out from EWR / Newark..?
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Mon Dec 26, 2005 7:38 pm

Quoting AirKas1 (Reply 7):
He's flying out from EWR / Newark..?

Sorry; updated my post already. Got kind of confused with another thread in the forum.
 
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Tue Dec 27, 2005 1:29 am

Wow, thanks for all the info guys! As much as I'd love to be on the 74E, I don't leave until tomorrow (27/12) and if I'm not mistaken that 74E will turn around at EWR and fly back to AMS tonight. If that's not the case however, fantastic - I'll be on a 747 tomorrow! However, I think its going to be a 767. It was scheduled as an A332 when I bought the tickets a month ago, however about two weeks ago my seat assignment was randomly changed and then two days later it said that I was on a 767 instead of an A332. Anyway, whatever it is, I'll be happy to be flying with KLM. I have never had a bad experience with them yet.
Happy Holidays to you all and best wishes for a happy new year!

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RE: AMS Gate Info

Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:55 am

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 6):
Disadvantage are the large walking distances.

Major disadvantage. Flew in earlier this year, and we used a gate at the far end of the D pier. It took forever to get to immigration at the main terminal.
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:43 am

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 10):
Major disadvantage. Flew in earlier this year, and we used a gate at the far end of the D pier. It took forever to get to immigration at the main terminal.

It's getting "worse" when arriving from outside Europe, and then having to connect to the B-pier. B18 for example is a loooong way to go from, say, the E-pier.
AMS has the "mind-your-step walkways", but they should do something about all this semi marathon prep stuff. In fact, I fear that with the current design of the airport and the merger with AF, AMS will loose its importance as European hub.
Too much noise-restrictions, too windy, too few runways, too long taxi times from the RWY to the gate, etc.
It's a pitty, really.
 
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:46 am

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 11):
It's getting "worse" when arriving from outside Europe

I arrived on a U2 flight from LTN, so I guess technically Europe. I was carrying my heavy hand baggage, and assumed the carts costed something. Since I didn't have any Euros yet, I didn't get one. I didn't realize until later, they were no cost.  Sad
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Tue Dec 27, 2005 6:55 am

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 12):
I didn't realize until later, they were no cost.

The carts are free.
It would be great money though; no one will ever walk that far with luggage  Smile
 
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Tue Dec 27, 2005 7:50 am

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 13):
It would be great money though; no one will ever walk that far with luggage

They tried that at LIS about 1-2 years ago. Very nice for passengers arriving from other countries that don't have coins available.

Fortunately, this policy was quickly abandoned.
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Tue Dec 27, 2005 9:04 am

Quoting PanAm747LHR (Thread starter):
KL 1131. Nick

Nick,

Both gates for your flights are not yet known. KL0658 will be PH-BZK, as said in another topic. KL1131 will be PH-BXK a B738. Registrations can always change, due to several reason.


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RE: AMS Gate Info

Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:54 am

AAarrrghh! Well I knew my listing would get nitpicked, but that's okay though!

I'm not a spotter, don't really track all this data, just from my experience of taxiing past a few days every week and glancing out the window  Smile.

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RE: AMS Gate Info

Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:05 am

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 11):

It's getting "worse" when arriving from outside Europe, and then having to connect to the B-pier. B18 for example is a loooong way to go from, say, the E-pier.

I'm sorry but after being folded in an aircraft seat for a couple of hours or more I absolutely welcome a long walk. Ever heard of DVT (deep vein thrombosis)? Walk, baby, walk!

Quoting Go3Team (Reply 12):
I was carrying my heavy hand baggage

Now, heavy handluggage should be forbidden anyway. The overhead compartment (and my neck) are not designed for it.
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RE: AMS Gate Info

Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:28 am

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 17):
I'm sorry but after being folded in an aircraft seat for a couple of hours or more I absolutely welcome a long walk. Ever heard of DVT (deep vein thrombosis)? Walk, baby, walk!

I'm fit and I honestly don't care about walking in AMS. But when trying to make a connection and rushing with your 10kg hand-luggage it's a bit less comfortable  Wink
On the other hand, when you have on-board luggage and arrive in AMS, there is a good chance your luggage is (almost) at the belt already once you arrive there.