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Correct Me If I'm Wrong/AA Paint Scheme

Fri May 26, 2000 1:10 pm

OK
So, correct me if I'm wrong.
But I just finished reading an "airliners" book about Chicago's O'Hare airport.
One caption states that American Airlines executives realized there was money to be saved by leaving large sections of their fuselages' unpainted.
First and foremost, don't get me wrong, I like the AA livery. But that seems sorta lame. And don't they still have to buff them anyway?

 
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RE: Correct Me If I'm Wrong/AA Paint Scheme

Fri May 26, 2000 2:18 pm

"large sections" ?? More like the entire plane, at least all the metal. The only paint is on not metallic surfaces and of course the cheatline and lettering. Yes, they do still have to polish the planes. Many say polishing takes up most of the money saved from not painting the aircraft. Although, with a fleet of over 700 aircraft, economies of scale takeover and it is probably a great savings to the airline.

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RE: Correct Me If I'm Wrong/AA Paint Scheme

Fri May 26, 2000 2:23 pm

The EPA has praised AA for not painting their aircraft. The chemicals used to periodically strip the paint of airplanes (for mandated visual inspections) are highly toxic and an environmental disposal hazard.
 
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RE: Correct Me If I'm Wrong/AA Paint Scheme

Fri May 26, 2000 2:33 pm

Don't forget, a conventional paintjob also adds hundreds of pounds to the aircraft's weight, increasing the fuel cost for that aircraft for each trip. that adds up to many dolars per trip per aircraft. This is important savings, especially today.
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RE: Correct Me If I'm Wrong/AA Paint Scheme

Fri May 26, 2000 2:38 pm

Anybody know how AAs exterior cleaning and polishing schedule works?
 
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RE: Correct Me If I'm Wrong/AA Paint Scheme

Fri May 26, 2000 11:22 pm

>The only paint is on not metallic surfaces and of course the
>cheatline and lettering.

Cheatline and lettering are decals, not paint -- exception being ex-Reno Aircraft.

>Many say polishing takes up most of the money saved from not painting the aircraft.

Polishing a 777 takes a couple of hours. Painting takes days!

>Although, with a fleet of over 700 aircraft, economies of scale takeover
>and it is probably a great savings to the airline.

Yes, yes and yes again.

>Anybody know how AAs exterior cleaning and polishing schedule works?

Aircraft are washed about once per week. SAN folks say it takes less than 1 hour to fully wash an MD80 size plane. Polishing is done at major maintenance visits every 40-60 days and takes a polishing crew 2-3 hours to do an MD-11 size plane. They use motorized rollers on long poles for the most part. Not sure what polishing compound is used.
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RE: Correct Me If I'm Wrong/AA Paint Scheme

Sat May 27, 2000 12:01 am

>The only paint is on not metallic surfaces and of course the
>cheatline and lettering.

>>Cheatline and lettering are decals, not paint -- >>exception being ex-Reno Aircraft.

The whole cheatline is a big ole sticker huh? Interesting.

>Many say polishing takes up most of the money saved from not painting the aircraft.

>>Polishing a 777 takes a couple of hours. Painting >>takes days!

True, but you polish an aircraft much more ofthen than you paint it. As you say every 2 months or so. Painting is done every few years or so if at all. So for a small airline, it may not be cost effective.

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