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Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:26 am

The allocation of traffic rights to Emirates for Dubai to Phnom Penh has got me thinking - where else will EK start up? Since they have such a well placed hub for flights to and from just about anywhere, for instance with Cambodia, they only have to generate half a dozen passengers a day to each of their destinations on the opposite side of DXB. For a feeder flight originating east of DXB, half a dozen pax bound for each possible onward destination adds up to about 100 to Europe, 60 to Africa, 60 to various cities in the ME, if you originate east of DXB. There's 260 pax, a full A330 and a very profitable 777. And half a dozen pax per onward destination isn't hard to generate.

So when we will see Tashkent, Yerevan, Bandar S-B, etc, on Emirates route map? Any suggestions?
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:32 am

PRG will be a EK destination starting the summer schedule.
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 6:33 am

I don't think it will be too long before Emirates start DXB-ATQ.

[Edited 2005-12-30 22:35:40]
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:14 am

I wouldn't be suprised to see AMS and NRT if they can manage to get slots  Smile

Also I would think we could see EK anounce YYZ and CPT soon  Smile

I would think ARN could also happen, depending on how well CPH does  Smile

Maybe also another Egyptian city such as SSH or LXR  Smile

Maybe also EDI in Scotland  Smile

All rumours though

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 7:28 am

If the Bangladeshi government would allow it, EK would be flying to Chittagong (CGP) and Sylhet (ZYL) by now. Given how it has penetrated the Pakistani and Indian markets, I would think given the chance they would fly to these Bangladeshi cities.

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:53 pm

KTM seems to be on the cards too.

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 3:54 pm

Did they cancel SFO?
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 5:35 pm

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 1):
PRG will be a EK destination starting the summer schedule.

Adam slowly slowly, EK did not apply for slots and no application sent to CAA yet, they will sure start but don t be sure in S06
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:17 pm

ADD end of Mrch 3x a week with a 332. It's being discussed in another thread
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:40 pm

I would like to see EK fly to SFO, LAX, and IAH in the future.
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:16 am

Ok...its getting pretty hard to keep track of all the destinations EK is going to fly to in 2006

so far its

1.Copenhagen
2.Thiruvananthapuram (TRV)
3.Hamburg
4. Abidjan
5.Nagoya
6.Addis Ababa

Wish List:
1. YYZ
2.ORD/SFO/LAX
3.BLR
4.CPT
5.AMS
6.NRT

anything else im missing ??

What happened to their plans to serve BEIJING?? Its no longer on their site.????
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:30 am

anywhere long enuf to put a 777 down basically...with their single hub many spokes almost any airport that can take an A345 or 773 is viable...
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:52 am

Quoting EK380 (Reply 10):
anything else im missing ??

Maybe ...Madrid?? Qatar Airways is at the moment operating a MAD service
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:57 am

EK would love to offer more flights to Germany, but as of now they are not allowed to. It seems that with HAM they were just too optimistic when announcing the flight.
They are also in talks about flights to STR.

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:42 am

Here is the list for 2006. By March 2007 frequencies will be as follows:

Abidjan - 4x weekly via ACC using A343
Addis Ababa - Daily using A332
Hamburg - Daily using B772/B77W
Copenhagen - Daily using A332
Nagoya - Daily using A345
Beijing - Daily using A343
Trivandrum - 8x weekly using A332/B772
Bangalore - 8x weekly using A332/B772
Kolkata - 6x weekly using A332

Rgds
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:53 am

Weren't they planning on going to the Western Coast (LAX, SFO, YVR)???

[Edited 2005-12-31 17:55:04]
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:05 am

North America
1-YUL
2-MEX

South America
1-GIG
2-GRU
3-EZE(i can`t wait)
4-CCS

Europe
1-OSL
2-ARN
3-AMS
4-LIS
5-MAD
6-BRU
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:23 am

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 16):
North America
1-YUL

WHAT! Emirates at YUL!  faint 
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:52 am

Quoting STARalliance24 (Reply 17):
WHAT! Emirates at YUL!

I wish!!!!!
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:13 am

Happy New Year, all!

It's a bit of a long shot considering the number of existing EK services to LHR and LGW, but I'm sure that Emirates could have a good stab at a daily service to STN. Given the volume of world-wide connections that are possible through their DXB hub, I wouldn't be surprised if a daily STN service went down very well with folks from North London, Cambridge, East Anglia and the Midlands who currently have to struggle round the M25 in order to connect onto EK.

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:39 am

I'll say it once and say it again...

EK, COME TO SFO!!
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:40 am

I see a few more saying LAX and SFO... which do you think EK will enter into the market first, and by when?
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:48 am

Quoting STARalliance24 (Reply 15):
Weren't they planning on going to the Western Coast (LAX, SFO, YVR)???

That would be really nice (and EK would get great loads), but they would only be able to use their A345s. Do they currently have enough to operate these routes?
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:55 am

Quoting Cedars747 (Reply 16):
2-MEX

I wouldn't doubt about it. EK could easily take away most traffic going to Middle East or Asia. Also they could codeshare with some Central America airlines and Mexican airlines in order to get their big piece of cake.


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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:57 am

Quoting Emirates777 (Reply 14):
Kolkata - 6x weekly using A332

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!! finally! Emirates to my home city! Now all thats left is for them to come to LAX. I can finally get world class service when i go to my country.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 8:31 am

C'mon people! You are all forgetting about Dublin! Gulf Air now flies from Bahrain, Qatar is likely to announce services and Aer Lingus has already announced to fly DUB-DXB from March. I don't want EK missing out on a piece of the action! Unless they announce a code-share with EI I hope to see EK in DUB in the next 12 to 18 months.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:58 am

What about Adelaide? There is strong rumours they will be starting services to Adelaide in 2006.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:23 am

What about Mashad, Iran? or St.Petersburg, Russia?
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:48 am

Quoting STARalliance24 (Reply 17):
WHAT! Emirates at YUL!

What!ETIHAD in TORONTO?
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:13 am

Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 22):



Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 22):
That would be really nice (and EK would get great loads), but they would only be able to use their A345s. Do they currently have enough to operate these routes?

The destinations on the westcoast are listed as potential destinations. Currently, Emirates is not permitted to fly to anywhere in Canada due to the air agreement between Canada and the UAE. I believe that only one carrier from the UAE can fly to Canada up to 6 times per week (which is currently Etihad).
Currently, I do not believe EK has enough planes to operate the three westcoast destinations, as the A345's are being used for KIX,SYD/MEL/AKL/CHC, ZRH, LGW, and JFK. When the A340-600HGW aircraft and the rest of the 777-300ER's are delivered they may free up some A345's for these routes. Another possibility is that EK will operate the 777LR to these destinations if EK chooses to order these planes.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting ACB777 (Reply 29):
Another possibility is that EK will operate the 777LR to these destinations if EK chooses to order these planes.

EK has ordered 777-200LRs
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:08 pm

Quoting B742 (Reply 3):
I wouldn't be suprised to see AMS and NRT if they can manage to get slots

God I surely hope they will come to AMS. They just have to come here. A lot of people go to Germany, just to fly with EK. And I would love to go to Dubai with their flag carrier one day from AMS.

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:18 pm

Quoting Timology (Reply 31):
God I surely hope they will come to AMS. They just have to come here. A lot of people go to Germany, just to fly with EK.

Keep on hoping as it won't happen anytime soon. EK uses DUS for the Dutch market and any slots at AMS will go to EK Skycargo (higher yield). AMS will probably the last European passenger destination it will open.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:34 pm

Possible Emirates destination - anywhere on earth, anywhere with a runway.
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Sun Jan 01, 2006 11:53 pm

I think we may see EK fly to SFO and LAX once the airline starts taking 777-200LR deliveries. the 772LR certainly has the range to fly between SFO/LAX and DXB non-stop year-round on a full pax/cargo load.  Smile
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:37 am

Quoting Emirates777 (Reply 14):
Bangalore - 8x weekly using A332/B772
Kolkata - 6x weekly using A332

out of everyone's post in this thread...the above mentioned information concerning BLR and CCU has caught my eye and interest the most  Smile

If 8 weekly non-stop DXB-BLR-DXB flights do indeed officially materialize, then its dooms day for AIs daily nonstop ONE WAY only BLR-DXB A 310 operations!!! AIs return leg is DXB-BOM-BLR !!!  Sad
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:46 am

What about GVA? Initially planned for December 2005, the launch of that destination was postponed to 2006 due to shortage of aircraft (in that case A332).Since I haven't heard anything new about that, I'm rather pessimistic.

Maybe EK's decision has something to do with the fact Etihad already serves GVA (the market is quite limited)?

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:32 am

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 20):
I'll say it once and say it again...

EK, COME TO SFO!!

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Quoting Boeing744 (Reply 22):

That would be really nice (and EK would get great loads), but they would only be able to use their A345s. Do they currently have enough to operate these routes?

the A345's wouldn't be used for these routes, rather tha 777-200LR...

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 34):
I think we may see EK fly to SFO and LAX once the airline starts taking 777-200LR deliveries. the 772LR certainly has the range to fly between SFO/LAX and DXB non-stop year-round on a full pax/cargo load. Smile

ditto! I would love to see them come to The Bay Area...!!

the 777-300ER would be able to make it from LAX/SFO-DXB but would be short the other way around, especially with high winds....

that being said, the -200LR won't have a problem.
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:04 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 35):
If 8 weekly non-stop DXB-BLR-DXB flights do indeed officially materialize, then its dooms day for AIs daily nonstop ONE WAY only BLR-DXB A 310 operations!!! AIs return leg is DXB-BOM-BLR !!!

I doubt there is a market for 8 weekly non stop BLR-DXB flights. My friends who have been on the current AI BLR-DXB say that the flight is not always full, and I believe the flight originates in BOM.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:14 am

Quoting Emirates777 (Reply 14):
Addis Ababa - Daily using A332

ADD is only to be served 3x per week.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:46 am

A333X
GVA has been deferred. Instead ZRH will go upto a double-daily effective end of October 2006. The second flight will be operated with an A330-200 (3 class), departing DXB at 1615 and returning the following morning.

ETStar
ADD goes upto a daily effective 1 December 2006.

Other developments for 2006/7:
-HAM will be upgraded to a B772/B77W from the end of October 2006.
-ATH gets fully de-linked from LCA and will be served with a daily A332.
-PER's 1st daily frequency gets upgraded to a B77W from A343 effective 1 December 2006. So PER becomes a double-daily B77W and B772 operation.
-NBO gets 2 daily dedicated flights operated by A343.
-DAR is de-linked from NBO and is served with a daily A332.
-EBB flights are routed on a daily basis through ADD.
-KHI goes upto a 4x daily from current 27 weekly flights.
-KRT goes upto a daily from 6x weekly currently.
-KWI gets two additional weekly frequencies.
-MXP goes upto a daily with 3 additional dedicated A332 frequencies.
-CDG gets two additional weekly flights to go upto a double-daily.
-MAN's evening flight (EK019/20) goes upto a B77W effective end of October 2006.

Rgds
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:50 am

Quoting Blrsea (Reply 38):
I doubt there is a market for 8 weekly non stop BLR-DXB flights. My friends who have been on the current AI BLR-DXB say that the flight is not always full, and I believe the flight originates in BOM.

EK will not fill this flight with O&D pax...thats not its business strategy for BLR ...it will feed its BLR pax with those starting their journey from JFK, UK, Africa, EU and other Gulf points.

Just look at how LH fills its BLR daily flights with mainly pax originating from USA.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:57 am

Quoting LJ (Reply 32):
Keep on hoping as it won't happen anytime soon. EK uses DUS for the Dutch market and any slots at AMS will go to EK Skycargo (higher yield). AMS will probably the last European passenger destination it will open.

You're not the first person I have heard say this. Does the same hold for QR, will they continue to grow their cargo before launching PAX ops in AMS? Secondly how cramped is AMS that even an airline with the buying power of EK cant fight their way in.

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:07 am

Will Emirates add Adelaide to network?
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:27 am

Forgot to add

-DUS gets a second daily frequency using A332 low density - departing DXB in afternoon, returning in the morning the following day.

If you look at the timings of the BLR flights - 4 of the 8 flights dont seem to connect that closely to Emirates' connecting banks -- the other 4 connect very well. This suggests they see it BLR as a combination of both O&D and transfer traffic.

Yes there are plans to add Adelaide down the line.

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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:54 am

Emirates777, i was wondering what are EKs plans for northern Pakistan routes of ISB,LHE & PEW? Are they going to add more frequencies there or are they restricted due to government regulations. How are the loads on all 3 north Pakistan routes? I know KHI is heavy almost throughout the year.
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:00 am

The fact that all its routes currently consist of 'out-and-return' from Dubai is at once EK's current strength (in terms of keeping costs under control) and its possible future weakness (in terms of global coverage and flexibility to respond to possible future market trends).

A pilot who occasionally contributes on here said a month or two ago that he had heard that Emirates were looking at the possibility of opening up a second hub in the South Pacific. I can think of several places which already have reasonably-equipped airports which could readily be up-graded (e.g Vanuatu, Fiji, Western Samoa) and would fit in with the 'Dubai model' (i.e. airline hub combined with development as a tourist destination).

Has anyone else heard anything about this possibility?
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:19 am

"I would like to see EK fly to SFO, LAX, and IAH in the future."

IAH would be nice, as would IAD. Why would an airline from a country sitting on so much natural gas not want to fly to the Oilpatch?
 
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:29 am

Quoting Toxtethogrady (Reply 47):
IAH would be nice, as would IAD. Why would an airline from a country sitting on so much natural gas not want to fly to the Oilpatch?

the the part of the Emirates where DXB is located has very little gas/oil..it only makes up 5% of their GDP and will be out in about another 10 years...

now for Etihad and QR, that's different....
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RE: Future Emirates Destinations

Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:35 am

Quoting GAWZU (Reply 19):
I wouldn't be surprised if a daily STN service went down very well with folks from North London, Cambridge, East Anglia and the Midlands who currently have to struggle round the M25 in order to connect onto EK.

A daily STN flight, I can see it already. EK A380 in all-economy configuration, seeing as STN is one the largest if not largest airport with LCC flights in the UK.

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