Av8rDAL
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Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:15 am

I just found out that there's a special passenger on board Delta 15 today FRA-ATL- the much reported Baby Noor from Iraq is on her way to Atlanta to have life-saving surgery to repair a spinal ailment.

For those who don't know the whole story, the 3-month old was found near war-torn Baghdad and Children's Healthcare of Atlanta has offered to perform the surgery which will ensure the baby's survival. She and her father and grandmother are flying in Business Class and are due in ATL this afternoon from Germany, where they were brought from Kuwait and, originally, Baghdad.

I think it's a great story on many facets. It's a great act of selflessness and goodwill on the part of the U.S., Atlanta, and Germany (for allowing transit through FRA) but also it's a feather in Delta's cap. Good PR like this must sure help out Atlanta's struggling hometown airline.

Here's a link to the story:
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sha...es/2005/12/31/noors_flight_to.html

Check out the photos- that baby's smile is really something.

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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:24 pm

Best wishes to this child for a speedy recovery. Kudos to the Doctors who have said they will perform this surgery and to the hospital for taking care of her. ANd lastly - kudos to DL for their efforts in getting this girl to ATL.
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Sun Jan 01, 2006 12:36 pm

very nice to hear and read a positive story, i'm against war of any kind, it solves very little in my opinion, it's nice to know that their are decent people in the world still!
 
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Sun Jan 01, 2006 1:02 pm

This is a very heart warming story. I hope the child survives as I would guess she is looking at atleast 4 seperate surgeries, or possibly 3 with one being a marathon. These are the kind of stories that are missing in the press; these "decent people", Qanta077, also includes members of the U.S. military who noticed the Noor's condition. Stories like this are seldom reported, as very few stories highlight the hundreds of schools built; infrastructure; or civic construction done by U.S. troops. What chances would that little girl have in the old Iraq? - ZERO
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:42 pm

C130 Crew from Alaska provided airlift from Iraq for this little girl.

http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/7326145p-7238179c.html

This weekend, members of the 517th Airlift Squadron completed another mission they won't soon forget: They flew a struggling, very sick infant, Noor al-Zahra, and her family out of Iraq for medical treatment in America.
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Sun Jan 01, 2006 9:52 pm

I dont mean any offence but strange how the US bombs thousands in Iraq but bend over backwards to save 1 childs life. Anyways, I hope baby noor has a speedy recovery.
 
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:33 am

The real story here is not the Delta flight in business class, but the doctors in Atlanta for caring enough for this little girls life. I'm sure the family wouldve flown coach on a continental 757 to the states to save their childs life.
 
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 2:04 am

Quoting Zoheb (Reply 6):
I dont mean any offence but strange how the US bombs thousands in Iraq but bend over backwards to save 1 childs life. Anyways, I hope baby noor has a speedy recovery.

Don't make it political. It's a nice story coming out of Iraq which isn't somethng the media likes to report that much.
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:26 am

Quoting JumboJet (Reply 7):
I'm sure the family wouldve flown coach on a continental 757 to the states to save their childs life.

Touché.

It does make sense that they flew DL to Atlanta from Germany from a logistical standpoint, but again, the PR for any airline which offered transportation is really a good thing. I've read a lot of rants about Delta's curmudgeonly flight crews (not very surprising, given the state of the company, morale, etc.), but after reading this story and getting the impression that the family was treated very well by the company, that ought to make people feel better, pax and crew alike.

Kudos to the crew of DL 15 on New Year's Eve. Y'all deserve commendation, just as much as the soldiers and the doctors who have played roles just as significant in this operation.
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:59 am

I have heard a very discouraging story, and I don't know if it's true. I heard that the originally the flight was supposed to have been from Amman to Frankfurt, but the Jordanian authorities denied the family entry out of fear of terror attacks. If this is true, it is a very cowardly thing.
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:52 am

Quoting Av8rDAL (Reply 9):
It does make sense that they flew DL to Atlanta from Germany from a logistical standpoint, but again, the PR for any airline which offered transportation is really a good thing. I've read a lot of rants about Delta's curmudgeonly flight crews (not very surprising, given the state of the company, morale, etc.), but after reading this story and getting the impression that the family was treated very well by the company, that ought to make people feel better, pax and crew alike.

DL was the airline chosen I believe because the girl was discovered (was she ever lost) by members of the Georgia National Guard that were deployed to Iraq. Add into that she is being treated by doctors at Children's Healthcare Hospital in Atlanta and it made good sense to bring her here on Delta.

Quoting Moparman (Reply 10):
I have heard a very discouraging story, and I don't know if it's true. I heard that the originally the flight was supposed to have been from Amman to Frankfurt, but the Jordanian authorities denied the family entry out of fear of terror attacks. If this is true, it is a very cowardly thing.

Hopefully not but it wouldn't surprise me. Bin Laden and his crew have made it known that anyone remotely supporting the US is also their enemy. Muslim or non-Muslim be damned in their eyes. Jordan is caught between a rock and a hard place unfortunately.
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:29 am

Delta participated because the Georgia ANG troops (Gainesville, Georgia based Charlie Company of the 121st Infantry Battalion of the 48th Brigade Combat Team led by BG S. Rhodeheaver...a good soldier....so think twice about the next redneck comment you might consider) put out the word and Delta has long been known for it's charitable contributions to it's home community. This time it simply seemed like the right thing to do. There was a snafu in the flight from Kuwait to ATL thru AMS I believe, but LH stepped up and gave a ride from Kuwait City to FRA and DL made the necessary changes, and the German government helped out with the required transit visas with zero notice on a holiday weekend.

The efforts of all the airlines, as well as the Childrens Hospital of Atlanta (Henrietta Eggleston and Scottish Rite Centers), the doctors from all over ATL and the state of Georgia, and the thousands of people, small businesses, community groups and corporations (including the folks who will be putting the mother up while the child undergoes surgery and therapy) who have sent in financial contributions from the families of the soldiers (who really got the ball rolling here) to the average joe who sent money in to the radio stations and newspapers are helping to bring this child here to survive.

A special mention must be given to Debbie Stone of Douglas county in Georgia who received an email from her friend in Iraq (a US Army officer) and made the contacts necessary to get this moving. She has deflected credit to the 300 members of her church congregation

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sha...ies/2006/01/01/church_helping.html
They say that the child may suffer some paralyzation but the other option is certain death within months if nothing is done.

I say well done, and do so without any qualification to anyone who has assisted.

Quoting Moparman (Reply 10):
I have heard a very discouraging story, and I don't know if it's true. I heard that the originally the flight was supposed to have been from Amman to Frankfurt, but the Jordanian authorities denied the family entry out of fear of terror attacks. If this is true, it is a very cowardly thing.

The flight was actually from Kuwait City to a transfer point in Europe but that route was actually cancelled for some reason and the changes were made quickly and smoothly by motivated airline employees.

In another article reactions recorded by reporters were different.

“What’s all the commotion?” asked Carlos Cuesta, 32, who was about to board a flight home to Miami.

A reporter explained Noor’s plight. Cuesta’s friend Douglas Longhini said he’d heard about the baby.

“We’re disabled, so that’s dear to our hearts,” Cuesta said, adding that he and Longhini have cerebral palsy.
"Not all were as enthusiastic.

A man named Mohammad, who declined to give his last name, said the uproar over Noor didn’t make sense.

“People get killed over there every day,” he said. “What’s the big deal about a 3-month-old baby?”"


http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/sha...es/2005/12/31/celebrity_welco.html

[Edited 2006-01-01 21:31:05]
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:21 am

--- A man named Mohammad, who declined to give his last name, said the uproar over Noor didn’t make sense.

“People get killed over there every day,” he said. “What’s the big deal about a 3-month-old baby? ---

Well well, isn't that interesting. On the chance of being politically incorrect, it just shows how compassionate the Islamic community is. If you pay attention to the news reports out London today - there has been condemnation about this from the Islamic community there calling it: "an American ploy"

I'm sorry, but this sort of thing really pisses me off. All I have to say is: Bless the troops; Bless attending medical professionals; Bless Delta; Bless the German government for their help with the visas; Bless all those who donated; and SCREW those in the Islamic community that are so cold and unfeeling.

We should all remember that this child would have had ZERO chances in Saddam's Iraq that some are so intent that it should have been perserved.
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 6:26 am

Very Nobel on Delta's part and every one who offered the baby treatment.
I wish her quick recovery.
 
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:18 am

Reminds me of the two Cheeta cubs rescued by the US Military from a life of torment by some remote village restuarant owner in Ethiopia... A real "feel good" story.  Smile
 
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:54 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 8):
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Reply 8, posted Sun Jan 1 2006 18:04:46 UTC+1 and read 957 times:


Quoting Zoheb (Reply 6):
I dont mean any offence but strange how the US bombs thousands in Iraq but bend over backwards to save 1 childs life. Anyways, I hope baby noor has a speedy recovery.

Don't make it political. It's a nice story coming out of Iraq which isn't somethng the media likes to report that much.

well said... maybe its just my blatant republicanism, buti hate when people slag the war at ANY opertunity... we got rid of a horrid man, and are making the country a safer and prosperous time... rome was not built in 3 years. iraq will take time too...
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:29 pm

Baby's due to have surgery this week. I wonder how the recovery process will go.

Look for a grand sendoff for the family on their return home, with Delta providing transportation, of course.

To keep this topic relevant and from drifting into a political shouting match, keep it Civ-Av related, please. Some of these posts remind me of a couple mules fighting over a turnip.
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:51 am

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 34):
So either you have a problem with someone pointing out, right proudly, that the 517th out of Elmendorf provided airlift to the little girl and her family, or you don't.

I dont... it was a simple question.. jeez.. you do spend way too much time on a.net.. relax.. aslong as the little girl is doing fine, everything is great!

smile!

oh, and I still think the little girl is more important as her situation was life threatening.. sorry to disappoint you..

[Edited 2006-01-03 22:21:57]
 
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RE: Delta 15: Special Passenger From Iraq

Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:41 pm

Quoting Moparman (Reply 14):
Well well, isn't that interesting. On the chance of being politically incorrect, it just shows how compassionate the Islamic community is. If you pay attention to the news reports out London today - there has been condemnation about this from the Islamic community there calling it: "an American ploy"

I'm sorry, but this sort of thing really pisses me off. All I have to say is: Bless the troops; Bless attending medical professionals; Bless Delta; Bless the German government for their help with the visas; Bless all those who donated; and SCREW those in the Islamic community that are so cold and unfeeling.

It's not exactly difficult to see where he might be coming from. Try putting yourself in his shoes. With countless thousands of Iraqis killed and maimed while there country has been "freed", it's very easy to see this "one child mercy mission" as nothing more than a giant publicity stunt.

Please don't get me wrong, I hope the girl makes a full recovery and credit to those giving something for nothing here. But to hype this up to the degree it seems to have been, begs the questions that some are asking.
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