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MIA Faces Hurdles In 2006; But Sees A Good Year

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:16 am

Miami International Airport, which has not seen the traffic uptick that other airports have, will open the brand new Concourse J early this summer. On budget and on time, the $800M terminal hads 15 international gates at a time when there is plenty of gatespace for others, but the airport is hoping the state of the art terminal will be an image boost for itself. Along with the fairly new Concourse H, the south terminal will house all skyTeam and Star Alliance airlines. The airport is also hoping that capacity constraints which are still contiuing at FLL will help business in 2006, along with the hopeful entry of new lowcost carriers, the most rumoured being jetBlue and Frontier, and a handful of international carriers - with Domodeovo Airlines and Aer Lingus expected to arrive in 2006.

The airport still faces the hurdles of very high landing fees, but is hoping that the fact that airport is very uncongested and commands above average fares, will help make up for it. The past few months have seen good news for MIA. Among some things:

-American Airlines has heavily increased their domestic route network from the airport, noteably to key Southeast cities that can now be viable thanks to RJs. New markets added in 2005 included Norfolk, Dayton, Greensboro, Louisville, and Memphis.

-American Airlines has also added frequencies in 2005 in key business markets, including Philadelphia, LaGuardia, Los Angeles, Panama City, and Toronto.

-American Airlines, partly for competitive reasons, is expanding the number of Caribbean and vacation island destinations served from MIA, having added Bermuda, St. Kitts & Nevis, and St. Lucia in the past year, with rumours of Antigua, Bonaire, Grenada, and Roatan coming next.

-Delta Airlines has added three non-stop destinations to Miami in the past month. Daily service now operates to Salt Lake City and New York City-JFK, and 2x daily MD88 service to LaGuardia begins in February, the only mainline Delta service between the Northeast and Florida (they do operate Delta Shuttle aircraft on Saturday SRQ flights from BOS and LGA, though).

-Iberia Airlines, which closed their Miami hub due to immigration rules that made it difficult to operate, will reintroduce their second Miami frequency this summer, operating 11 weekly flight between Miami and Madrid.

-Russia's Domodedovo Airlines plans on beginning three weekly non-stops between Miami and Moscow (DME) this April, but is still awaiting DOT approval (given it usually takes four months to get approval, we should hear something about what the DOT has decided by the end of the month).

-A new incentive program started by the airport waives landing fees for a year for any new airline starting any new route, even if there is an existing airline flying the route.

-American Airlines' new fare structure has been a tremendous success in boosting the airline's domestic O&D traffic at MIA, which is up more than 10%.

With that being said, there are still negatives. High operating costs are still scaring away the likes of jetBlue, and American Airlines continues to heavily increase their dominance, which is restricting growth oppurtunities for other airlines and running others, like United, out. ATA airlines made a splash by re-announcing MIA in the fall, only to cancel the service a few weeks before it would start. Airport officials are also curious as to who exactly will have interests in serving the E, F, and G concourses with billion dollar north and south concourses opening that have plenty of space for everyone. The airport is considering implementing lower operating/usage fees for airlines that use the older facilities. I personally predict 2006 will be one of the brightest years for MIA in a long time. Nothing spectacular, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a 3.5-4.5% increase in traffic, largely in part to American Airlines and skyTeam, and the hopeful entrance of a second lowfare carrier to compliment airTran. And, on the bright side, when all the expansion is complete, MIA will have the capability to handle over 60M passengers a year (a number that will take at least two decades to reach), meaning that it has plenty of space for growth without traffic restraints.

Full article:
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...kages/business_monday/13527938.htm
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:21 am

Interesting.. but from what i can tell, MIA is just too dang expensive to work. Just because an airline can charge more money to fly into MIA, would the people actually be willing to PAY a higher fare or would they be willing to just go to FLL and drive down? Me, I would rather pay Southwest or Delta $200 to FLL and get a rental car than to pay $400 to MIA. The average person is still saving money any kinda way. Now if MIA can get their total fees around the $5-7 range.. hey! that would be killer. But I think now it is around $14-15 or something like that? Uhmm.. no.

Best of luck to them, but I think that even though FLL is crowded and cramped like roaches in a jar.. it's a reasonable tradeoff than spending your 401K to fly into MIA.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:26 am

Well, having the facilities there for growth is a good thing. Definitely one step ahead of FLL who doesn't have the facilities (gates) needed for further growth.

I do hope that JetBlue will expand HEAVILY into MIA. Miami would be a good market for them, but I hope they maintain a focus on FLL. Unfortunately, they are not happy with FLL because of the lack of additional gates, the fact that they have to work a split operation in FLL (two gates in one wing and two - soon to be three gates in another). Unfortunately with each area having separate security checkpoints, it forces JetBlue to have higher operating costs. Two sets of employees have to be used to ensure proper staffing in each wing. If they were in the same wing, they could have less employees = lower costs.

With that said, I know that JetBlue has their "hub" and "crew base" in FLL (one of only three). So, they are committed to FLL, and they would rather have the a larger operation there than in MIA. It wouldn't make sense to have the crew base in FLL and have most of the flights starting/ending in MIA.

Let's hope that FLL works to ensure JetBlue maintains a large operation in FLL and doesn't let JetBlue go south to MIA.  Smile

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Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:28 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
Interesting.. but from what i can tell, MIA is just too dang expensive to work. Just because an airline can charge more money to fly into MIA, would the people actually be willing to PAY a higher fare or would they be willing to just go to FLL and drive down? Me, I would rather pay Southwest or Delta $200 to FLL and get a rental car than to pay $400 to MIA. The average person is still saving money any kinda way. Now if MIA can get their total fees around the $5-7 range.. hey! that would be killer. But I think now it is around $14-15 or something like that? Uhmm.. no.

Best of luck to them, but I think that even though FLL is crowded and cramped like roaches in a jar.. it's a reasonable tradeoff than spending your 401K to fly into MIA.

You are way overexageratting the premium paid by MIA passengers.

American Airlines already matches jetBlue's fares from FLL on their MIA flights, and they also match most of Southwest's fares to Orlando and Tampa.

The premium paid by using MIA is by business passengers who are very price elastic and will pay it regardless. The average traveler does not pay huge premiums to fly to MIA. At most, it is $30-$40, which is cheaper than the $70 cabfare from FLL to Miami. I use MIA almost exclusively, and when I crosshop with FLL fares at AA.com, the fares are almost always identical.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:28 am

Why is the cost of operating in MIA so much higher than FLL?

Wouldn't they be better off lowering operating costs? Then airlines could feasibly operate in MIA. If the costs are that much higher, it's no wonder airlines are retreating to FLL.

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Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:29 am

Quoting InTheSky74 (Reply 2):

With that said, I know that JetBlue has their "hub" and "crew base" in FLL (one of only three). So, they are committed to FLL, and they would rather have the a larger operation there than in MIA. It wouldn't make sense to have the crew base in FLL and have most of the flights starting/ending in MIA.

Crew is based in a city - Miami/Fort Lauderdale - not an airport, so it isn't a huge problem. Many jetBlue FA's based in Fort Lauderdale live in Miami-Dade County, just as many of AA and DL's Miami-based flight crew live in Broward.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:19 pm

Is there any possibility of the A380 coming to MIA? Perhaps AF?

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Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:02 pm

I always assumed MIA was the congested airport and FLL was the reliever. Guess I was wrong?!? I am really hoping that JFK-MIA (5 DAILY) is on the scope for B6. I think B6 would fare well giving AA some healthy competition out of MIA. I think routes to BOS, IAD, LGB, BQN, and PCE would also do well.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:14 pm

On the contrary, MIA is not always higher than FLL. I flew LAS-MIA on AA
on Dec24th and MIA-LAS on AA on Dec 28th and the fares were cheaper
on AA from MIA than anything from FLL. FLL is only 5miles from my house so for convenience it is definitely my choice, but simple economics made it
more affordable to fly into MIA instead.
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RE: MIA Faces Hurdles In 2006; But Sees A Good Year

Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:34 am

Quoting InTheSky74 (Reply 4):
Why is the cost of operating in MIA so much higher than FLL?

Wouldn't they be better off lowering operating costs? Then airlines could feasibly operate in MIA. If the costs are that much higher, it's no wonder airlines are retreating to FLL.

The high costs are to pay for the expensive facilities, and there isn't much MIA can do about it, sadly. What MIA could do that might lower costs is allow airlines to lease gates. As it is, airline pay per-flight charges. MIA's landing fees are actually very competitive and low. It is other fees - gate usage fees, towing fees, fueling fees - that make it expensive.

Quoting 797 (Reply 6):
Is there any possibility of the A380 coming to MIA? Perhaps AF?

Of course. Air France, Lufthansa, and Virgin Atlantic are all likely canidates.
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:19 am

Well......while it's true that MIA may have the capacity for 60M passengers, but you wouldn't be able to get them processed and boarded.

TSA staffing has been cut, during the holiday rush we had people with boarding passes in hand that still missed because they just couldn't get thru the checkpoint lines.....that were closed. Check out the TSA's website that shows their holding times. And, immigration delays are horrific and aren't getting better.

TSA and immigration are government agencies, but MIA will suffer until this gets worked out and fixed. I handle at least 3 or 4 people a day who miss connecting flights because of immigration delays and declare never to come thru MIA again.
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:41 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 3):
American Airlines already matches jetBlue's fares from FLL on their MIA flights, and they also match most of Southwest's fares to Orlando and Tampa.

Not on the West Coast flights. AA´s LAX-MIA price is a joke and sometimes even the LAX-FLL is up there. LGB-FLL maitins a decent constant price which has worked out well for me. Just share a van or ride the tri-rail into MIA. 10 bucks a pop plus an extra 30 min is better than flying in to MIA for about 100 more. well at least in my eyes...

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Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:44 am

Quoting Slvrblt (Reply 10):
Well......while it's true that MIA may have the capacity for 60M passengers, but you wouldn't be able to get them processed and boarded.

Quite obviously, if MIA sees more traffic, they will see more TSA agents as the traffic increases. That won't be a huge issue. There is already huge discrepencies in the distribution of agents at MIA. A huge bulk of MIA's flights leave through Concourse A, D, E, and H. However, Concourses A, C, D, and E Lower are all connected behind security. On Monday, there was a huge line at Concourse D, where my flight to O'Hare was departing, so I simply walked to Concourse C, and was the only person at the checkpoint, which has three machines for four gates.

A new immigration facility opens at MIA this summer for Concourse H and J. MIA is trying to figure out what mix of airlines to put into the South Terminal to get it properly staffed.

Quoting MGA (Reply 11):
Not on the West Coast flights. AA�s LAX-MIA price is a joke and sometimes even the LAX-FLL is up there. LGB-FLL maitins a decent constant price which has worked out well for me. Just share a van or ride the tri-rail into MIA. 10 bucks a pop plus an extra 30 min is better than flying in to MIA for about 100 more. well at least in my eyes...

Check again. 14 day advance purchase for AA MIA-LAX is right now $238 roudn-trip. jetBlue is at $223 for FLL-LGB on certain days, but as high as $273 on others. Personal experiences will vary, but the majority of the time you will find the fares at MIA are within $10-$15 (less or more) of the fare from FLL, as most airlines now price match MIA with FLL, including AA, who does indeed match jetBlue's FLL-LGB fares on MIA-LAX. The fare difference becomes more significant for last minute departures.

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Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:57 am

Quoting MGA (Reply 11):
Not on the West Coast flights. AA´s LAX-MIA price is a joke and sometimes even the LAX-FLL is up there.

When you say "a joke" you mean cheap, right?  Wink
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:09 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 1):
would the people actually be willing to PAY a higher fare or would they be willing to just go to FLL and drive down?

Maybe for visitors to the area, but for anybody living down here, especially east and south of MIA, getting to FLL is quite a pain in the neck. Interstate 95 is the only major roadway and is pretty traffic clogged from downtown Miami through the first 10 miles up in the direction of FLL.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
so I simply walked to Concourse C, and was the only person at the checkpoint, which has three machines for four gates.

Shhhhhhh! Let's try to keep the security checkpoint at Concourse C a secret! I use it all the time, no matter what gate in the A, D or E concourse my flight is leaving from.
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:06 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 14):

Shhhhhhh! Let's try to keep the security checkpoint at Concourse C a secret! I use it all the time, no matter what gate in the A, D or E concourse my flight is leaving from.

Ditto. I love the C checkpoint. Sad that it is likely to be leaving us sometime in '06 when C closes down for the new mid-D gates to be built.
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:43 am

I would love for MIA to spend some of this money to improve what can be horrendous wait times at security checkpoints and customs/immigration. I know it varies, but for me, invariably, whenever I pass through 'zoo' is an appropriate description.

The last time I arrived internationally the non-citizens were being passed through the immigration checkpoint at a quicker rate than US citizens, which sort of had me stymied. And then of course you hit the nightmare which is baggage claim/customs.

Oh well. Best of luck to MIA in 2006. But put some of that money where it really needs to go. Because who knows, maybe if MIA improved the immigration/customs/security checkpoint experience, more people would be willing to use the airport and not look for other options.
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting Tismfu (Reply 16):
I would love for MIA to spend some of this money to improve what can be horrendous wait times at security checkpoints and customs/immigration. I know it varies, but for me, invariably, whenever I pass through 'zoo' is an appropriate description.

This has nothing to do with MIA. This has to do with the federal government who assigns and employs these workers. MIA can ask or more workers at security checkpoints and immigration, but the government who assigns them.
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:23 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):
This has nothing to do with MIA. This has to do with the federal government who assigns and employs these workers. MIA can ask or more workers at security checkpoints and immigration, but the government who assigns them.

Certainly that is true, but I don't know why it is I find the same 'culture' wherever I am in MIA. From ticket counters to gates, it can be a mess. I do not mean to deride the airport, but I truly feel that there is something different about it aside from TSA staffing and I would be thrilled if that could be addressed. If the TSA can make the security/customs/immigration experience better elsewhere, why not MIA?

I know I'm not the only one who feels that there is something different about MIA, but perhaps there is nothing the airport can do to change this 'difference', as esoteric as that sounds.
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:32 pm

Happy new year everyone! My first post in a while Big grin

I wonder what would've become of MIA if it wasn't dominated by a single carrier (in this case AA)

In the pre AA days MIA had a whole bunch of carriers. You could argue that the circumstances would still be different today but I dunno.. Could it be that the greedyness of AA and the airport's willingness to let it monopolize it has finally caught up with MIA after all these years?
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:33 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
A huge bulk of MIA's flights leave through Concourse A, D, E, and H.

I passed thru MIA on Sunday on my way back to LHR and got my first taste of the new "D" and it was absolutely fantastic. Lots of glass, very airy with the concourse being extremely wide and large seating areas at the gates. It looks as if it is currently international arrival ready, in regards to customs/immigration. Question is, when will they start shifting some of the international widebodies over to "D" and get them out of the very small and cramped lower "E"??

When AA is finally moved completely into the North Terminal, a renovated lower "E" would be the perfect concourse for a jetBlue operation, with 6-8 gates available. However, it looks as if the "E" satellite needs to see a wrecking ball, and very soon....
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:14 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
Quite obviously, if MIA sees more traffic, they will see more TSA agents as the traffic increases. That won't be a huge issue

Well MAH, I hope you're right. But we give the TSA our traffic forecasts in advance for manning purposes at the checkpoints. Doesn't seem to do much good at times, D was a bottleneck over the holidays and even C, your favorite, became no reliever as it backed up too.
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:32 pm

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 19):
Could it be that the greedyness of AA and the airport's willingness to let it monopolize it has finally caught up with MIA after all these years?

If it weren't for the commitment of AA, you wouldn't be seeing the nice new $800 million expansion project going on down there.

Quoting SLVRBLT (Reply 21):
Doesn't seem to do much good at times, D was a bottleneck over the holidays and even C, your favorite, became no reliever as it backed up too.

I've only been through Miami three times (I do like the airport, btw), but must say an even bigger problem than security is the "multiple-confusing-not-quite-really-well-marked" check in counters for American Airlines.

the first time coming to the airport, I remember trying to find the baggage claim was a pain as well. just a few more signs as part of the overhaul would be great!
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:35 pm

MIA still SUCKS BIG TIME!!! Have you tried to get in or out of the airport between 3 and 7 or 8PM???????????? It is a nightmare! There are some fly-overs under construction leading to highways that will be miserably backed up too! Whatever happened to the Intermodal Center? That lot is still vacant, flat...even grass and weeds are growing! What an obvious money laundering scheme. MIA still needs decent stores, restaurants and facilities. The airport is extremely outdated. There is no relief for passengers who have to walk miles between one terminal to the next. Forget about the waiting time in US Immigration. The place needs to be bull-dozed and moved somewhere else much like what happened in DEN a while back. What will happen 20yrs from now? The same obsolete, growth constrained airport full of cracks and falling apart will be around while Florida taxpayers pay for the CORRUPTION! MIA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:41 pm

Quoting Stlgph (Reply 22):



Quoting Stlgph (Reply 22):
I've only been through Miami three times (I do like the airport, btw), but must say an even bigger problem than security is the "multiple-confusing-not-quite-really-well-marked" check in counters for American Airlines.

the first time coming to the airport, I remember trying to find the baggage claim was a pain as well. just a few more signs as part of the overhaul would be great!

Have to agree with you there. But I don't think there will be new signs on the counters soon. The new signs MDAD wants for all the airlines counters are the yellow neon ones you see down on the A concourse counters. Our Haiti checkin on A does have them.
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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:02 am

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 23):
Whatever happened to the Intermodal Center? That lot is still vacant, flat...even grass and weeds are growing!

Under construction (really!) I live in Miami Beach and go by it a few times a month.

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 23):
The same obsolete, growth constrained airport

Ummm, sounds like FLL to me (though I wouldn't say it's obsolete, just growth constrained).

Quoting Stlgph (Reply 22):
the first time coming to the airport, I remember trying to find the baggage claim was a pain as well. just a few more signs as part of the overhaul would be great!

That's a very good point. I do remember being a bit confused the first time I landed at MIA back in 2003, prior to moving down here.

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 20):
I passed thru MIA on Sunday on my way back to LHR and got my first taste of the new "D" and it was absolutely fantastic.

I do like the new "D" gate area, but have 1 nit pick about it. If your gate is all the way at the end, you need to walk the entire what must be 1/2 mile. How about some moving sidewalks? There's plenty of room for them!
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:06 am

IMO, MIA is the best place to people watch. Grab a Starbucks or a La Carreta and sit back and when all you see are silver birds outside, look inside and watch the world pass you by.  Smile
 
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Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:19 am

Quoting BHMNONREV (Reply 20):
Question is, when will they start shifting some of the international widebodies over to "D" and get them out of the very small and cramped lower "E"??

Some Caribbean and Central America flights are already departing from Concourse D. Most of the widebody international flights will be shifted to Concourse A, especially when the new Concourse A Admiral's Club opens in the spring.

Quoting Stlgph (Reply 22):
but must say an even bigger problem than security is the "multiple-confusing-not-quite-really-well-marked" check in counters for American Airlines.

Very true, but AA is fixing that up by designating certain gate check-ins to certain flights. For example, the check-in counters at Concourse A are now check-in for "Canada, Ecuador, Haiti, and Mexico flights". Why on Earth they chose those four countries, I have no idea.

Quoting Stlgph (Reply 22):
If it weren't for the commitment of AA, you wouldn't be seeing the nice new $800 million expansion project going on down there.

Actually, the new $800M terminal has nothing to do with AA. It is a project being done by the airport for other airlines. It was a compromise, because the other airlines were upset that MIA was building AA a nice new concourse that they would still have to pay for through the increased airport fees. As it turns out, the MIA-managed construction of the South Terminal is on time and on budget, while the formerly AA-managed North Terminal is over $500M overbudget and three years late, while MIA gets all the blame. So much for AA doing a good job there.

Quoting N62NA (Reply 25):
I do like the new "D" gate area, but have 1 nit pick about it. If your gate is all the way at the end, you need to walk the entire what must be 1/2 mile. How about some moving sidewalks? There's plenty of room for them!

You might have noticed that there are train stations located on the upper level of the concourse. An AA TrAAin will be installed on the roof (the tracks are already there), but it won't be running until later when more of the terminal is complete. It will run all the way from Concourse A to the end of D.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 26):
IMO, MIA is the best place to people watch. Grab a Starbucks or a La Carreta and sit back and when all you see are silver birds outside, look inside and watch the world pass you by.

Agreed. I especially like to people watch around the ticket counters and watch people check-in. Interesting characters to watch. For some reason, the best check-ins to watch are the Surinam Airways flights, from my experience. If you think Haitain passengers bring a lot of luggage...it is nothing compared to what people take back to Surinam.

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 23):
Whatever happened to the Intermodal Center? That lot is still vacant, flat...even grass and weeds are growing!

When is the last time you have been in Miami? The facility is well under construction. While the lot is still pretty flat, remember, this structure is huge. The foundation work takes a while, and, construction crews first have to build the surrounding road infastructures, like bridges, that are connecting the building, which they are nearly complete with. Some vertical construction has already started with the rental car facility, which should be complete in 28 months.
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Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:56 am

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 13):
When you say "a joke" you mean cheap, right?
Straight from aa.com, one way fares Miami-LAX:
Jan 06, $319 (tomorrow)
Jan 13, $139
Jan 20, $119
In no way "up there".

Thats odd. I also checked and I am getting a 259 price on the MIA-LAX o/w.

B6 maintains a steady 99 each way plus tax while AA only does 280-290 r/t on extremely off days in off seasons on empty flights. I fly this route about 4 times a year and LAX-MIA on AA is normally at least 315-340.

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RE: MIA Faces Hurdles In 2006; But Sees A Good Year

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:06 am

Quoting N62NA (Reply 25):
I do like the new "D" gate area, but have 1 nit pick about it. If your gate is all the way at the end, you need to walk the entire what must be 1/2 mile. How about some moving sidewalks? There's plenty of room for them!



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 27):
You might have noticed that there are train stations located on the upper level of the concourse. An AA TrAAin will be installed on the roof (the tracks are already there), but it won't be running until later when more of the terminal is complete. It will run all the way from Concourse A to the end of D.

I was wondering the same thing about the moving sidewalks, it looked like the concourse was wide enough to accommodate them.

Mark, in reference to your comment about the trains I did not notice this, however I was in a hurry to get from the far west end of "D" to make my connection to LHR in lower "E" so I did not have any time to stop and check too much out in the concourse. But my next trip thru MIA I certainly will. Thanks for the tip...
 
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RE: MIA Faces Hurdles In 2006; But Sees A Good Year

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:59 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
A new incentive program started by the airport waives landing fees for a year for any new airline starting any new route, even if there is an existing airline flying the route

If I had an airline flying to MIA, I would request the fee to be waived if a new airline enters into competition with mine, or I would consider dropping MIA due to unfair competitition conditions.

From Bolivia there are two carriers now: AA and LB offer direct services to MIA, and I know 5L (Aero Sur) is interested in the route too - That would certainly affect AA and LB and if 5L can save landing fees, they would have in my opinion and unfair advantage to AA and LB who serve the route since long.

Where is the "customer service" thought of MIA? Aren´t LB and AA good customers for Bolivia services, and must MIA look for someone to ruin their (very good!) business on this route?
 
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RE: MIA Faces Hurdles In 2006; But Sees A Good Year

Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:45 am

Quoting 123 (Reply 30):

If I had an airline flying to MIA, I would request the fee to be waived if a new airline enters into competition with mine, or I would consider dropping MIA due to unfair competitition conditions.

From Bolivia there are two carriers now: AA and LB offer direct services to MIA, and I know 5L (Aero Sur) is interested in the route too - That would certainly affect AA and LB and if 5L can save landing fees, they would have in my opinion and unfair advantage to AA and LB who serve the route since long.

Where is the "customer service" thought of MIA? Aren´t LB and AA good customers for Bolivia services, and must MIA look for someone to ruin their (very good!) business on this route?

You are thinking a little to harshly. Many, many airports do this. It is the way business works, and airlines learn to live with it. The same way that Aerosur will benefit from starting a Miami-Santa Cruz flight, American Airlines could benefit from starting a Miami-Cochabamba flight or what not. It is not unfair at all. In fact, it is perhaps the most fair incentive program offered by any US airport...and dozens offer them, including DFW, DEN, SEA, etc. In fact, one reason for FLL's growth in the past three years was their very well thought out incentive program. The MIA incentive program is the most fair of them all. It is the only program that is open to everyone (incubent and new carriers), and to all destinations. It is encouraging growth of the airport, and that in the end benefits all airlines.
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RE: MIA Faces Hurdles In 2006; But Sees A Good Year

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:46 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 27):
Very true, but AA is fixing that up by designating certain gate check-ins to certain flights. For example, the check-in counters at Concourse A are now check-in for "Canada, Ecuador, Haiti, and Mexico flights". Why on Earth they chose those four countries, I have no idea.

BAG FLOW -- They picked these countries because the number bags and timing flow of checkin best matched the available baggage system capacity.

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