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So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:21 am

Fellow a.netters,

Not sure if these pics have been posted before, but I thought I would post them regardless. These are courtesy of an aviation analyst. Both he and I agree that the only reason why the woman would be smiling in the second photo is because she is a personal injury lawyer. There is no reason for smiling - this is serious.Southwest Airlines Fatal Mishap, KMDW, 08 DEC 05. One might ask why the woman in the second photo below is smiling, but we know why.

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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:24 am

Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter):
There is no reason for smiling - this is serious.Southwest Airlines Fatal Mishap, KMDW, 08 DEC 05. One might ask why the woman in the second photo below is smiling, but we know why.

I would rather ask who she is and why she is allowed to be near the aircraft when an investigation is going on
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:32 am

Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter):
Both he and I agree that the only reason why the woman would be smiling in the second photo is because she is a personal injury lawyer

My #1 pet peeve is when people assume something when they don't know the facts. It's possible that she was one of the passengers of the plane, and is 'smiling' because she survived.
 
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:34 am

Good question APF, Looks like Mr and Mrs idiot snapping pictures for the parents from a place they shouldn't under any circumstance be. I for one hope they never decide to breed.
 
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:35 am

She is staff or something, otherwise she wouldn't be allowed close to the wreckage.
I think it's a bit insensitive of her to smile for this picture, but it might be a cultural thing. I know for instance many Indonesians ALWAYS smile for picture or camera, even if they'd be on a funeral.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:35 am

I suggest removing the photos of the two stnading infront of the a/c, if their with WN, or anyone related to the crash, you may well have just cost them thier jobs. And if shes a lawyer, she just lost her case, and im sure has hell her "clients" would love to see her stand there smiling think dollar signs as they greive.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:36 am

Quoting AKelley728 (Reply 2):
My #1 pet peeve is when people assume something when they don't know the facts. It's possible that she was one of the passengers of the plane, and is 'smiling' because she survived.

Whether this is the case or not, it's not really appropriate to smiling beside the wreckage. How many workers from the WTC have had their pics taken next to Ground Zero with a beaming smile?

It's quite different from going to Disneyworld and getting a 'I survived Thunder Mountain' t-shirt.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:51 am

Those pictures are infuriating, I don't care if they are smiling because they are Survivors, Tourists or Lawyers. A child died in that car , show some respect.

Somebody should contact the local media and have them investigate!..
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:17 am

C'mon guys!,

I know it's a sad topic but why are people making a mountain out of a mole hill! Do you really think she would be allowed to have her photo taken on the scene if she didnt have any authority? As for her smiling, why do you bother being soo angry about it? It's not worth the effort. Im sure there are much more important things to worry about in life. Take a time out!

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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:33 am

Quoting BA767s (Reply 8):
there are much more important things to worry about in life.

- true, but it doesn't mean those "less important" things shouldn't be worried about. She might have smiled almost non-intentionally to the "camera man" at the very moment he made the shot; looks totally inappropriate anyway. Just look at the crashed car behind her...

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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:45 am

Some of these similiar images were posted in the other thread and was removed by the thread starter who posted them.

[Edited 2006-01-03 02:50:19]
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:50 am

After seeing those images, I hope Southwest is required to pay A LOT to the family of that 6 year old boy. Just awful.......  frown 
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:51 am

Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter):
Both he and I agree that the only reason why the woman would be smiling in the second photo is because she is a personal injury lawyer.

Are you saying that you know for a fact that she's a personal injury lawyer, or that the only reason you can surmise that she might be smiling is that she's a personal injury lawyer? Your words are ambiguous.

Either way, I agree with the poster above who said it may be a cultural thing; some people almost instinctually smile every time they're having their picture taken. There are more serious transgressions in the world to worry about.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 10:53 am

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 11):
After seeing those images, I hope Southwest is required to pay A LOT to the family of that 6 year old boy. Just awful.......

It really is terrifying, isn't it? I suppose it's a blessing there were any survivors at all, but jesus. Still, we should reserve judgment as to who should pay until the investigate is finished.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:01 am

Quoting N844AA (Reply 12):
Are you saying that you know for a fact that she's a personal injury lawyer, or that the only reason you can surmise that she might be smiling is that she's a personal injury lawyer? Your words are ambiguous.

Apparently, the photographer who is an FO for AA validated the info from her. She is a Chicago area attorney officed in Wakegan, IL who specialises in personal injury, and small claims. I'll take his word for it.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:56 am

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 11):
After seeing those images, I hope Southwest is required to pay A LOT to the family of that 6 year old boy. Just awful....... frown

They shouldn't have to pay a penny to that family, it was odd chance he was there and nothing could have stopped it, its not like getting hit by a taxi, this was more rare chance. The passengers on the plane on the other hand.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:59 am

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 15):
They shouldn't have to pay a penny to that family, it was odd chance he was there and nothing could have stopped it, its not like getting hit by a taxi, this was more rare chance. The passengers on the plane on the other hand.

If they are found negligent by landing then yes, they should pay.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:00 pm




Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 11):
After seeing those images, I hope Southwest is required to pay A LOT to the family of that 6 year old boy.



Yeah, what a brilliant idea....since, you know, doing so will bring their boy back and prevent future accidents.  sarcastic 

Give me a break, MiCorazonAzul.




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Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:14 pm

I emailed them to the tribunes aviation reporter....
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:16 pm

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 1):
I would rather ask who she is and why she is allowed to be near the aircraft when an investigation is going on

Shes a Chicago Police Officer you can see the star on her vest and on the guys in the next photo....shes probably working the investigation...
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:31 pm

Yee Haw...looks like that WN Cowboy was trying to hitch his horse that post! Unfortunate and poor child that had to die because of it, tragic for the family too. Nice that the Chicago police are so sensitive about the loss of human life too, maybe that is why their city is the murder capitol of the U.S.
 
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:36 pm

Quoting United1 (Reply 19):
Shes a Chicago Police Officer you can see the star on her vest and on the guys in the next photo....shes probably working the investigation...

Crime scene investigator FTW.

Bomber jacket is a dead giveaway. Department issue. And check the Tac radio in the front right breast pocket.

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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:42 pm

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 11):
After seeing those images, I hope Southwest is required to pay A LOT to the family of that 6 year old boy. Just awful.......

And another IDIOT chimes in. What the F^&( makes you think that WN has anything to do with these other two idiots posing with the wreckage? Believe me, SOMEHOW, these two stumbled into the area and managed to snap these shots, there's NO NTSB person, cop, or Airline personnel that would do that.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:46 pm

Quoting Socalfive (Reply 22):
And another IDIOT chimes in. What the F^&( makes you think that WN has anything to do with these other two idiots posing with the wreckage? Believe me, SOMEHOW, these two stumbled into the area and managed to snap these shots, there's NO NTSB person, cop, or Airline personnel that would do that.

I believe that first off Blue was talking about the crushed car and not the people, and what a horrible way that would be to die. Second off it would seem that you are wrong as all evidence points to that broad being a LEO of some sort.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:50 pm




Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 23):
I believe that first off Blue was talking about the crushed car and not the people, and what a horrible way that would be to die.



...Don't forget the advocacy of senseless litigation and jumping to conclusions.  sarcastic 




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Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:53 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 24):
...Don't forget the advocacy of senseless litigation and jumping to conclusions.   




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As I've said a few times now, if the overrun happened as a result of the negligence of WN then it is not senseless, maybe you are jumping to conclusions.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:57 pm

Quoting CTHEWORLD (Reply 20):
Nice that the Chicago police are so sensitive about the loss of human life too, maybe that is why their city is the murder capitol of the U.S.

Actually, I think Camden, N.J. has the worst murder rate in the country -- I remember seeing an article about it a few weeks ago. As far as big cities, I'm pretty sure Detroit and Baltimore are considerably worse than Chicago.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:00 pm




Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 25):
if the overrun happened as a result of the negligence of WN then it is not senseless, maybe you are jumping to conclusions.



I haven't suggested a probable cause/conclusion, let alone jumped to one. I simply have a problem with people making assumptions before the facts are in.

Regardless of who's at fault, it's positively stupid to think that forcing WN (or any other airline) to pay out enormous sums of money will A) bring back the dead, or B) prevent future accidents.




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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:01 pm

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 15):

They shouldn't have to pay a penny to that family, it was odd chance he was there and nothing could have stopped it, its not like getting hit by a taxi, this was more rare chance. The passengers on the plane on the other hand.

They will pay some money no matter what the case is. Airlines dont like going to court about crashes and most of the time the airline settles with the victims families before the courts get involved. The passengers on the plane should be thankful that the FA's evacuated everyone safely and all the PAX were okay and the safety systems worked well after the aircraft skidded off the runway.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:06 pm

Quoting N844AA (Reply 26):
Actually, I think Camden, N.J. has the worst murder rate in the country -- I remember seeing an article about it a few weeks ago. As far as big cities, I'm pretty sure Detroit and Baltimore are considerably worse than Chicago.

Your might be right, come think of, it think they were quoting gang related murders, Chicago was the highest. But WAY off topic, sorry for the digression.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:07 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 27):
Regardless of who's at fault, it's positively stupid to think that forcing WN (or any other airline) to pay out enormous sums of money will A) bring back the dead, or B) prevent future accidents.

Why would it be stupid to think B? Quite the opposite, I'd think. If an entity is being negligent (and I'm not saying Southwest has been here), the whole idea behind punitive damages is to prevent future accidents -- give them an incentive not to be negligent in the future.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:07 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 27):
I haven't suggested a probable cause/conclusion, let alone jumped to one. I simply have a problem with people making assumptions before the facts are in.

Regardless of who's at fault, it's positively stupid to think that forcing WN (or any other airline) to pay out enormous sums of money will A) bring back the dead, or B) prevent future accidents.




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Other info: Former Southwest flight ops intern,

and you are looking at this objectively right?  Yeah sure
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:13 pm

Quoting CTHEWORLD (Reply 20):
Nice that the Chicago police are so sensitive about the loss of human life too, maybe that is why their city is the murder capitol of the U.S.

Maybe I should comment about all those cars the police in Paris let burn and the wooooooonderful job they did!  angry  As my hometown is Chicago and I hope to move back there eventually, I find your comment very disrespectful to anyone in the CPD.  angry 

btw, DC and Detroit are the top 2 murder capitals of the WORLD!!!!!  Wink
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:20 pm

Why are some of you making such a big deal about these pictures. The women is smiling, who cares, generally when you point a camera at someone its just instinct to smile. There is nothing insensitive about these pictures at all, in fact they are very interesting and do a good job demonstrating the failure points on the aircraft when an accident like this occurs. Oh and JetJack74 don't do anything to your post because some people are crying about it. These pictures are very good and people could learn alot from them.

Oh and APFPilot1985 what are you trying to accomplish by sending these photos to a newspaper? Sounds like you are trying to be some kind of hero for the sensitive. Give me a break already.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:23 pm

Quoting Tbird (Reply 33):
Oh and APFPilot1985 what are you trying to accomplish by sending these photos to a newspaper? Sounds like you are trying to be some kind of hero for the sensitive. Give me a break already.

I'm sorry that you don't find that repulsive, I do. The blood isn't even dry on the car that is feet away from that woman and she is smiling like shes at an amusement park.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:35 pm

Quoting Jetjack74 (Thread starter):
One might ask why the woman in the second photo below is smiling, but we know why.

Well to me she looks like some staff because of course no pedestrian would be allowed so close to the wreckage, not even if the person had survived the crash.
And if she thinks its "cool" standing in front of an aircraft that killed a child than all I can say is Go F**k Yourself! There is no reason for her to have a smile.


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Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:42 pm




Quoting N844AA (Reply 30):
Why would it be stupid to think B? Quite the opposite, I'd think. If an entity is being negligent (and I'm not saying Southwest has been here), the whole idea behind punitive damages is to prevent future accidents -- give them an incentive not to be negligent in the future.



You don't think the possibility of killing hundreds of people, having footage of your crashed airplane plastered across every tv screen and newspaper across the country, and ruining any credibility you might have once had isn't incentive enough?





Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 31):
Other info: Former Southwest flight ops intern,

and you are looking at this objectively right?



Look, I'd be making the exact same argument if this was jetBlue, United, or even Kalitta. I believe runaway litigation will be the death of this country. If you choose to think my internship experience is preventing me from looking at this objectively, that's your decision...I certainly can't stop you from being wrong.




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Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:48 pm

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 15):

They shouldn't have to pay a penny to that family, it was odd chance he was there and nothing could have stopped it, its not like getting hit by a taxi, this was more rare chance. The passengers on the plane on the other hand.

Once again... if I had "by odd chance" slid off the road that next morning and hit an old lady waiting on the corner for a Lanta bus, I'd be tried for it. Or if I had rear ended or head-onned someone. Would I do it on purpose? No. Did these pilots do it on purpose? No. Just because it's an accident doesn't mean they're not at fault. I think anyone here who's ever been in a car accident whether they were at fault or the victim agrees that the accident was never on purpose. Your ultimate responsibility as the driver/pilot/owner of a piece of deadly machinery is its safe operation, no matter what. They (WN, as representatives of the pilot) are at fault for the accident unless it is somehow found to be a brake failure which was the responsibility of Boeing. Sliding off a runway is no different than sliding off a highway... you're still responsible for whatever your piece of machinery does.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:51 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 36):
Look, I'd be making the exact same argument if this was jetBlue, United, or even Kalitta. I believe runaway litigation will be the death of this country. If you choose to think my internship experience is preventing me from looking at this objectively, that's your decision...I certainly can't stop you from being wrong.

except that this may very well not be runaway litigation. If WN is found to be negligent then they should be sued, that is what the civil court system is there for.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:55 pm

Quoting MiCorazonAzul (Reply 11):
I hope Southwest is required to pay A LOT to the family of that 6 year old boy.

Why should SW pay money to the family? an accident is an accident. Here is a question, if someone accidently crashes into your car would you sue them because it was an accident?
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:57 pm

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Even worse, I had some aquaintences here in the U.S. from Germany and right after 9/11 they rushed to New York and sure enough, in their photo album is a photograph of Papa, Mama, and two daughters all waving and smiling with the still smoking wreckage of the twin towers behind them.

In the photo, what is that fenced off area just by the nose of the 737? (2:20pm photo) I have been to that intersection many times and never noticed that.
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:58 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 39):

Why should SW pay money to the family? an accident is an accident. Here is a question, if someone accidently crashes into your car would you sue them because it was an accident?

If they were negligent yes.....
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:58 pm

Quoting 777ER (Reply 39):
Here is a question, if someone accidently crashes into your car would you sue them because it was an accident?

Here in the U.S., if negligence was involved, yes, one would sue, either the insurance company that covered the person (company) or them personally, if not insured.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:59 pm




Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 38):
except that this may very well not be runaway litigation. If WN is found to be negligent then they should be sued, that is what the civil court system is there for.



You're right....it might not be runaway litigation. It might be perfectly legitimate. The definition of runaway litigation varies, though, and I'm of the opinion that most litigation related to aviation accidents and incidents amounts to nothing more than greed.




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Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:00 pm

Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 40):
In the photo, what is that fenced off area just by the nose of the 737? (2:20pm photo) I have been to that intersection many times and never noticed that.

Just a fence around one of the approach lights
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:18 pm

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 14):
Apparently, the photographer who is an FO for AA validated the info from her. She is a Chicago area attorney officed in Wakegan, IL who specialises in personal injury, and small claims. I'll take his word for it.

Are you serious? Where did you get that crap from? What a joke!

Quoting United1 (Reply 19):
Shes a Chicago Police Officer you can see the star on her vest and on the guys in the next photo....shes probably working the investigation...

If those cops are not there as part of the investigation they may be part of the team of cops guarding the 737 size hole in the fence.

Maybe she is smiling because it is pure habit, or maybe because it is her first chance at standing next to a plane that size on the ground and she thinks its neat (even if it is banged up). Either way, those pictures were not intended for use on a.net, and it is nothing to start a war over.
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:24 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 43):
You're right....it might not be runaway litigation. It might be perfectly legitimate. The definition of runaway litigation varies, though, and I'm of the opinion that most litigation related to aviation accidents and incidents amounts to nothing more than greed.




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Well you know what they say about opinions... and frankly i think it is pretty heartless of you to call someone who lost a child greedy
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:34 pm




Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 46):
Well you know what they say about opinions... and frankly i think it is pretty heartless of you to call someone who lost a child greedy



I think it's pretty heartless for anyone to think acquiring any sum of money will somehow ease the pain of losing a child.




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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:40 pm

Quoting 2H4 (Reply 47):
I think it's pretty heartless for anyone to think acquiring any sum of money will somehow ease the pain of losing a child.




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Thats not what it is about though, it is about making the company pay..... it doesn't ease the pain trust me I know....
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RE: So Pic Of The Ill-fated WN 737 On 08DEC

Tue Jan 03, 2006 3:04 pm




Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 48):
Thats not what it is about though, it is about making the company pay..... it doesn't ease the pain trust me I know....



Making the company pay doesn't give them any more incentive to prevent crashes. They've already got that. Making the company pay simply increases insurance premiums and causes the company look for yet more areas to cut costs. As long as this kind of litigation is allowed to continue, insurance costs will continue to rise. Where does it end?

If safety was keeping pace with the increase in insurance costs, it would be worth every cent. Unfortunately, you can bet it isn't even coming close.

I believe that the notion of money somehow replacing a loved one is not what it's about to you, but I think that misguided revenge is exactly what it's about to many litigators.

Imagine how many deaths could be prevented if every dollar of punitive damages went directly into aviation safety and research, instead of into the pockets of greedy ambulance-chasers.

I'm not implying you're one of those, by the way....I just think you overestimate the effect the likelyhood of litigation has on aviation safety.

I will also be the first to admit I could be wrong about all of this....but I'm pretty sure I'm not.




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