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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:01 pm

Paramount to buy 15 more Embraer Aircrafts for $450 million. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1356007.cms

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After ending ‘05 with a bang, the Indian aviation industry seems determined to start the new year on the same note. Paramount Airways, the Coimbatore-based all business class airline, has finalised plans to buy 15 more aircraft from the Brazilian commuter jet maker Embraer. The order worth $450m is expected to be formally placed later this month. Paramount will buy eight Embraer 175 aircraft and six Embraer 195s, which will be delivered to the airline over the next 18 to 20 months, the company managing director M Thiagarajan said.

The aircraft will be configured in a two-class configuration with fully reclining flat beds in the first class. They will also be fitted with the latest inflight entertainment systems, he said. Analysts expect a 20% growth in traffic going forward and airlines are expanding capacity to cater to the growth.

Paramount is the first Indian carrier to opt for the Brazilian aircraft. The Embraer family of four jets was launched for the 70 to 110 seat market, with four aircraft the Embraer 170, 175, 190 and 195 — seating respectively, 70, 78, 100 and 110 passengers at 32-inch seat pitch.

The aircraft are all fly by wire with glass (computerised) cockpit panels. All Paramount’s aircraft are also equipped with Category-II low visibility auto-land. This enables aircraft to land automatically with the auto-pilot in very low visibility and foggy conditions, similar to those being experienced in Delhi now. “Paramount is the only airline with absolutely no delay in any of its flights in the past few weeks at Delhi because of the equipment as well as the pilots being trained to use it,” Mr Thiagarajan said.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:31 pm

Why Arn't Paramount training Indians for Mx & Flt ops.I believe they still use Expats.
Is it part of a deal.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:02 pm

Would I be right is guessing that Paramounts' initial set of flights is doing OK then? Given they're going ahead and ordering additional aircraft, it would seem like they are happy with the response to their current flights. Has anyone here flown them so far? Any feedback?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:12 pm

So Paramount will return the 170's they're using right now and go for a E175 and E195 fleet?
Any clue?
I know of a person who used the airline on Delhi-Coimbatore and he said it was relatively comfy, but that the plane was small. I guess that is a psychological thing - people would prefer a cramped 737 or A320 cabin rather than the more airy E-Jet cabin. I hope other Indian carriers also start using the E-Jets.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:22 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
Why Arn't Paramount training Indians for Mx & Flt ops.I believe they still use Expats.

Mel - how does it matter? They'll do what they believe is the best for them, and if they believe expats is the way to go, that's the way they should go.

Why do you think they should not use expats, but should train Indians?

They did advertise in the past to recruit, but I guess the response may have been less than ideal?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:31 pm

Quoting Nimish (Reply 4):
They'll do what they believe is the best for them, and if they believe expats is the way to go, that's the way they should go.

I'm sure they must be training some Indians, and you do have to give them credit for introducing a new aircraft type into India. Which other new carrier has done that? Which is why I guess they need the expats (I guess they'll be a lot of Brazilians) to service and fly the planes.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:47 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 5):
I'm sure they must be training some Indians, and you do have to give them credit for introducing a new aircraft type into India. Which other new carrier has done that

Agreed fully. It's just that if (in their infinite wisdom) they decide that expats is the way to go, well - more power to them. I'm basically hinting that there is likely to be a method behind the madness  Smile
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:50 pm

I was at a new year party in Mumbai and was speaking to a fairly senior ground staff manager of BA as well as a First Officer on Air India who flies on the "rustbuckets". While they may be a little biased, they both did mention that 9W's yields on the BOM-LHR route was poor and there was some serious thinking going on at the 9W headquarters on all options, including actually dropping the sector. Anyone else hear any rumors on this front?

The AI FO also did mention something that I found amusing. Apparently on most days AI's flight to LHR overtakes 9W's flight despite a later departure. There have been occasions when the pilot has asked passengers to look to their left or look below them to view the "overtaking" maneouvre. Is there any truth to this or was this just too much rum and coke on New Years eve?
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:59 pm

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 7):
While they may be a little biased, they both did mention that 9W's yields on the BOM-LHR route was poor and there was some serious thinking going on at the 9W headquarters on all options, including actually dropping the sector. Anyone else hear any rumors on this front?

From what I hear, a lot of 9W's target high-yield passengers will not budge from BA Club World for love of money. That said, they did spend a bomb on their new HQ at Bandra-Kurla. Maybe they'll start thinking once they move.
 Silly

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 7):
The AI FO also did mention something that I found amusing. Apparently on most days AI's flight to LHR overtakes 9W's flight despite a later departure. There have been occasions when the pilot has asked passengers to look to their left or look below them to view the "overtaking" maneouvre. Is there any truth to this or was this just too much rum and coke on New Years eve?

This statement (true or not) will start (yet) another A340 vs B777 debate. But, if true, the AI pilots must be having a good laugh each time.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:05 pm

How are 9W doing on the DEL-LHR-DEL route.How are the yeilds on this route for them.Now that S2 is also joining the league and that too with a bang by offering the lowest fares ever on the India-UK route so whats stored in the future?
Apparently 9W had said that they were looking forward to start a 3rd Daily from India to London/UK so where will that 3rd originate from??

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:24 am

Quoting JetWay (Reply 9):
Now that S2 is also joining the league

More laughs for the AI pilots...  Smile

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 7):
on most days AI's flight to LHR overtakes 9W's flight despite a later departure.

I have this from the websites..

Origin TO Dest Landing
9W: Mumbai 1320 London 1750 (2220 IST)
AI: Mumbai 1430 London 1900 (2330 IST)

AI leaves an hour & 10 mins later and reaches an hour & 10 mins later! Perhaps more rum and less coke for the AI FO  Wink
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:57 am

Paramount has already axed Kochi! Their website now lists only Chennai, Delhi, Coimbatore as active stations. So I guess there is not yet a good market for Kochi - Delhi?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:08 am

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 7):
While they may be a little biased, they both did mention that 9W's yields on the BOM-LHR route was poor

How are BA's other competitors doing on that route? VS, BD, and AI? VS appears to be targetting London bound pax only, and unless BD takes on US bound UA code-shared pax, I guess they're aiming for the UK market only as well. AI, of course, combine 10 of their UK flights with the US, so they may not really have to worry that much.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:27 am

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 7):
The AI FO also did mention something that I found amusing. Apparently on most days AI's flight to LHR overtakes 9W's flight despite a later departure. There have been occasions when the pilot has asked passengers to look to their left or look below them to view the "overtaking" maneouvre. Is there any truth to this or was this just too much rum and coke on New Years eve?

too much rum and coke...
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:51 am

Quoting BandA (Reply 13):
The AI FO also did mention something that I found amusing. Apparently on most days AI's flight to LHR overtakes 9W's flight despite a later departure. There have been occasions when the pilot has asked passengers to look to their left or look below them to view the "overtaking" maneouvre. Is there any truth to this or was this just too much rum and coke on New Years eve?

Ya agreed too much rum and coke.May be the AI F/O was talking about his overtaking a 9W F/O's car with his car on the streets of Mumbai.Quite possible.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:47 am

Quoting JetWay (Reply 14):
Ya agreed too much rum and coke.May be the AI F/O was talking about his overtaking a 9W F/O's car with his car on the streets of Mumbai.Quite possible.

Maybe the AI F/O was talking about the return leg as according to

http://www.heathrowairport.com/porta...35771a2010VgnVCM100000147e120a____

these are the return flight timings.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 2105 1135+1 9W0117 343 Non-Stop 09:00 hrs
1 2 - 4 - 6 - 2130 1140+1 AI0130 777 Non-Stop 08:40 hrs
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:13 am

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 7):
Is there any truth to this or was this just too much rum and coke on New Years eve?

Well I hope that is Coca-Cola and not cocaine.  Wink
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:35 am

Air-India to ink Boeing deal next week

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With the empowered group of ministers (EGoM) having approved Air India�s proposal for purchasing 68 Boeing aircraft, the public sector carrier is all set to sign the deal with the US-based manufacturer on January 11.

According to senior Air-India officials, the two would be signing on the dotted line next Wednesday at a function where the CEO of Boeing Harry Stonecipher is likely to be present. ...

AI and Boeing officials are also likely to work out details on the $100-million maintenance, repair and overhauling facility which Boeing will set up in India as part of the aircraft deal.

��We have received land for setting up our engineering base from the Kerala government and we are keen to enter the MRO segment there is a possibility that we can have a tie-up with Boeing for setting up a combined unit in India,�� said Air India CMD V Thulasidas. ...
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:41 am

Peter Luethi quits as Jet Air COO. Link:
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=113462

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Peter Luethi has resigned as chief operating officer (COO) of Jet Airways, the country's largest private carrier. Industry sources said that Mr Luethi has put in his resignation papers ahead of the expiry of his contract in April 2006. Industry analysts said that Mr Luethi played a significant role in pushing the airline to a comfortable position in the country and that he was a key force behind Jet's foray into international routes. His exit at a juncture when there is a lot of competition in the industry could be critical for the airline.


Mr Luethi was earlier with Swiss Air and has more than 30 years of experience in the aviation industry. Last year two expat CEOs decided to return home. Citing family reasons, ex-COO of Kingfisher Airlines, Alex Wilcox returned to the US though the airline says that he is now a consultant for Kingfisher.
Next was SpiceJet's CEO Mark Winders deciding to go back home. Mr Luethi and CEO, Wolfgang Prock-Schauer were the subject of speculation, which Jet had to deny earlier.

"Shifting home and adjusting to the Indian environment are initially a problem for expats. These can be off-set by giving them healthy work environment and freedom at work," said Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation (CAPA), CEO, Kapil Kaul
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:38 am

It seems that Air Sahara has re-luanched its website and it now has online booking and check-in.

http://www.airsahara.net/s2v1/
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:10 am

Is there anyone out there involved in some way with their Air India or Indian Airlines?

I'm after the company fleet list for both companies, ie. the official fleet list from the company computer, not the fleet lists from one of the aircraft hobby sites.

Specifically, I'm after a list of the aircraft selcal's.

eg. MQDP = VT-AIJ (AI), MQHS = VT-AIK (AI), JRDQ = VT-EVO (IC), CRDS = VT-EVR (IC), etc...

Can anyone help?  Sad  Sad  Sad  Sad

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:36 am

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Govt may relook at bids for airports revamp
The government will not scrap the Delhi-Mumbai airport modernisation plan, though it was open to re-evaluation of the bids already submitted.

Highly placed sources said on Wednesday the process could be delayed if the government decided to undertake "re-evaluation or rectification" of the bids, but there was no question of the entire process being scrapped.

They said the civil aviation sector needed a focus and direction at this moment and a lot of it depended on the modernisation of the two airports, which together handle almost half of the country's air traffic.

However, sources made it clear that in case the government decided to go in for re-evaluation of the bids, only contentious issues would be gone through.

Hindustan Times

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:24 pm

from www.ndtv.com:

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Thursday, January 5, 2006 (New Delhi):

The fog continues to play havoc with flight schedules at the Delhi airport.

On Thursday morning, close to 20 flights have been delayed or cancelled with visibility on the runway reduced to 225 metres at 8:30 am (IST).

As many as six Air Sahara flights have been delayed, including S2 101 to Mumbai, S2 121 to Bangalore, S2 612 to Lucknow, S2 141 to Chennai and S2 131 to Pune.

Four Air Deccan flights have been cancelled including DN 625 to Srinagar, DN 661 to Bangalore, DN 619 to Bangalore and DN 601 to Jaipur.


 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:16 pm

It is a good thing the government is relooking at the airports revamp - even though there is a rumour in Delhi that the entire reevaluation is to placate the Bharti-Changi combine which was generally considered the best bidder. Don't be surprised if they win the bid for DEL. There is no way in hell Anil Ambani will win this bid with the current government in power given the name calling between the SP and the Congress right now.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:34 pm

My first post in around 25 days,

First of all A Happy New Year to all

Secondly i want to mention that CNN IBN reported pax being seated for upto 10 hrs inside S2 aircrafts at Lucknow which was overnighted due to Delhi fog.

Due to the report and no sort of food services provided to pax S2 have announced a free rturn ticket anywhere on their network for each of the 170 odd pax.
This includes their DEL-LHR services
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:49 pm

Also saw the CNN IBN report on air safety in India shocking to hear that our ATC systems are around 15 yrs old.

Also they PP on in the night he is a good speaker and defended and at the same time aknowledged the air safety scenario in the country
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:56 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 24):
Secondly i want to mention that CNN IBN reported pax being seated for upto 10 hrs inside S2 aircrafts at Lucknow which was overnighted due to Delhi fog.

To be fair - Star News actually broke the story first followed by Rajdeep TV and Undie TV. And ToI had a report today morning.
What was ironic was that just the day before all the channels and papers were going hyper on S2's DEL-LHR Rs 10k fare just the previous day.
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Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:51 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 24):
Secondly i want to mention that CNN IBN reported pax being seated for upto 10 hrs inside S2 aircrafts at Lucknow which was overnighted due to Delhi fog

The only problem was Food being served.With the terminal already Overflowing with other Diverted Flights there was no question of Deplaning the Pax.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:54 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 27):
With the terminal already Overflowing with other Diverted Flights there was no question of Deplaning the Pax.

Amausi is a tiny terminal - I don't know how it can handle more than two flights at a time, its more or less the same size as Pune.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:06 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 28):
Amausi is a tiny terminal - I don't know how it can handle more than two flights at a time, its more or less the same size as Pune

And there were four diverted flights not including S2Smile
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:05 am

G Kingshott, an Australian national, to be new Jet Airways COO. Hope his connections in Australia will enable Jet to offer a BOM-SYD non stop. They have a spare A340 and are expecting two A330s in March. How about timing the BOM-SYD flight such that LHR-BOM passengers can connect within two hours. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1361637.cms

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Jet Airways has announced appointment of Garry Kingshott, an Australian national, as the Airways' Chief Commercial Officer from March 2006.
Kingshott, who brings to the Airways over 31 years of corporate experience with ten years in Airline industry, will oversee areas of marketing and sales, commercial, airport services and all aspects of customer services -- the growth plans of Jet airways both in domestic and international markets, a release issued by the airways said here today. The Airline's chief operating officer Peter Luethi will be retiring at the end of his three-year contract in April end when he will relocate to USA.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:30 am

Quoting Cricket (Reply 26):
Rajdeep TV and Undie TV.

He he! I've never heard it called Undie TV... What's that all about?  Wink

And, does anyone watch Rajdeep's new channel?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:58 pm

Kingfisher close to equity deal. Based on the figures cited in the article, Kingfisher is being valued at about $800 million. Link:
http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1005429

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Kingfisher Airlines is close to taking on board a slew of leading private equity investors to fund its ambitious growth plans.ICICI Ventures, Temasek and NewBridge are said to be among those in the race for an equity stake in the seven-month-old airline. Vijay Mallya, the promoter of Kingfisher Airlines, is believed to be conducting the beauty parade to enlist long term investors.

About $200 million is the size of the investment the airline is looking at from the equity investors, with the minimum deal size pegged at $30 million. The airline is eyeing a rapid increase in market share by bidding for Air Sahara, which has the license to fly abroad. It is learnt that Mallya may give 26% to the private equity partners. Unlike, other airlines Kingfisher boasts of being the highest capitalised airline with about Rs 197 crore as paid-up equity capital. The entire sum was raised through the UB group’s
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:28 pm

Quoting Jasepl (Reply 31):
And, does anyone watch Rajdeep's new channel?

I do, because with the CNN link, they have access to CNN's worlwide news services too. They do have scope for improvement.

I was not quiet happy with their story on air safety. Their channel kept displaying figures like "26 near misses in 2005". Such comments creates fear among first time flyers, who are the target segment for LCC's.

However, a near miss is a term given to a scenario if 2 aircratfs are close to each other, not necessary that they are in danger of a collision. I clarified this with a retired Director of Air Safety, DGCA.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:41 pm

IBN also flashed news about Jagson Airlines acquiring A319s. Can anyone confirm this?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:52 pm

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 34):
IBN also flashed news about Jagson Airlines acquiring A319s. Can anyone confirm this?

It is being discussed:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/2530587
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sat Jan 07, 2006 5:15 pm

Emirates service to bangalore starting from Oct 29 '06, 8x weekly with 772 & 332 splitting the service equally....

EK 517 2030 Bangalore 2305 Dubai - 772-FJY 4:05 M.W....
EK 517 2030 Bangalore 2305 Dubai - 332-FJY 4:05 ...TF..

EK 519 0425 Bangalore 0700 Dubai - 772-FJY 4:05 MT.....
EK 519 0425 Bangalore 0700 Dubai - 332-FJY 4:05 ..W...S

EK 516 1400 Dubai 1910 Bangalore - 772-FJY 3:40 M.W....
EK 516 1400 Dubai 1910 Bangalore - 332-FJY 3:40 ...TF..

EK 518 2200 Dubai 0310 Bangalore - 772-FJY 3:40 M.....S
EK 518 2200 Dubai 0310 Bangalore - 332-FJY 3:40 .T...S.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:26 pm

Quoting Jasepl (Reply 31):
And, does anyone watch Rajdeep's new channel?



Quoting AirIndia (Reply 33):
"26 near misses in 2005". Such comments creates fear among first time flyers, who are the target segment for LCC's.

Reading the Defination of near miss.Its not as serious as it sounds.Pity the common man does not know & the news gets Sensationalised.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:07 am

Quoting BlrBird (Reply 36):
Emirates service to bangalore starting from Oct 29 '06, 8x weekly with 772 & 332 splitting the service equally....

EK 517 2030 Bangalore 2305 Dubai - 772-FJY 4:05 M.W....
EK 517 2030 Bangalore 2305 Dubai - 332-FJY 4:05 ...TF..

EK 519 0425 Bangalore 0700 Dubai - 772-FJY 4:05 MT.....
EK 519 0425 Bangalore 0700 Dubai - 332-FJY 4:05 ..W...S

As I said in the other thread - this is really great news - and good for BLR & EK.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:35 am

EK is fast. I know they have additional 8000 seats per week under the new bilateral and didn't they use some for service to TRV. What's next on their list in India?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:41 am

Air Sahara offers discounts on new services, better connectivity to London, Kathmandu, and Singapore. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1362845.cms

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Proposing to add ten new flights to key domestic destinations, Air Sahara on Saturday announced an introductory offer for a week to sell tickets on these services at Rs 2,999 and Rs 1,999, inclusive of taxes. The flights being launched on January 15 are Mumbai- Ahmedabad, Ahmedabad-Delhi, Delhi-Kolkata, Kolkata-Delhi, Delhi-Ahmedabad and Ahmedabad-Mumbai. Two flights to be launched from January 20 are Delhi-Mumbai and Mumbai-Delhi and the two from February one are Delhi-Hyderabad and return.

While the tickets on Delhi-Ahmedabad and Mumbai-Ahmedabad would be offered for a week at Rs 1,999 including taxes, the introductory offer on other flights would be Rs 2,999. The normal fares for Delhi-Kolkata start at Rs 4,222 and Delhi- Mumbai at Rs 3,888.

"Efforts are being made to position our major services in such a manner so as to connect the afternoon flights to London and Kathmandu and the evening ones to Singapore and Chicago," Sharma said.

The new flights would take the total number of services of Air Sahara to about 140. The new Delhi-Kolkata flight would be afternoon services which no other scheduled airline operates, while a late morning flight is being added between Delhi and Mumbai.

The Air Sahara official claimed the airline, which has Hyderabad as its hub of operations, has now become the largest operator on Delhi-Kolkata-Hyderabad
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:46 am

Is this a serious proposal to let private airlines fly to Gulf before the three year duopoly to AI and IC ends? Link:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1362947.cms

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India will consider allowing private airlines to fly to the Gulf to meet the needs of non-resident Indians in the region, a top official said. "As the demand for seats grows, it will create more openings between the Gulf countries and India for the aviation sector," said S. Krishna Kumar, secretary in the ministry of overseas Indian affairs.

The ministry of civil aviation could favourably consider proposals from private carriers to fly to the Gulf after similar opening up of the skies in other sectors, he told a press conference after the opening session of the 4th Pravasi Bharatiya Divas that was inaugurated by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Krishna Kumar cited the example of private Indian carrier Air Deccan, which has launched a service to Colombo in partnership with a Sri Lankan airline to primarily serve the growing demand from non-resident Indians in the Gulf.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:38 am

Air Sahara will soon be taking delivery of their brand new BBJ from Boeing Field. Reg for the ferry flight should be N746BA and will be VT-SRS once registered in India.

RK  spin 
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:20 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 42):
Air Sahara will soon be taking delivery of their brand new BBJ from Boeing Field

What hapens to VT-HSS.
When is VT-SID going to start flying.  Sad

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:12 am

Air Deccan to add more ATRs to its fleet. Link:
http://www1.economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1363480.cms

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Close on the heels of a fresh order placed to acquire 30 Airbus aircraft, budget carrier Air Deccan is planning to acquire more turbo-prop aircraft from Avions de Transport Regional (ATR) soon to enhance its regional connectivity maintaining lower fare. The airline would go ahead with the purchase plan in the current year itself to tackle the issue of volatile crude prices, Air Deccan CMD G R Gopinath said. "We will be acquiring more ATR aircraft soon. We have not yet decided about number of aircrafts.. but definitely, we have planned for a purchase," he said.

Attributing the decision to crusing crude prices, Gopinath said ATR aircraft are fuel efficient. Aviation Turbine Fuel (ATF) accounts for nearly 30-40 per cent of the total cost of operations of Indian carriers as against the international average of 16 per cent.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:48 pm

Quoting RobK (Reply 42):
Air Sahara will soon be taking delivery of their brand new BBJ from Boeing Field. Reg for the ferry flight should be N746BA and will be VT-SRS once registered in India.

Sahara shri seems to be on a massive ego trip. What does he plan to do with two BBJs. He already has the VT-HSS.

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 43):
When is VT-SID going to start flying.

By the looks of it, it seems to be write off. crying 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:57 pm

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 45):
Sahara shri seems to be on a massive ego trip. What does he plan to do with two BBJs. He already has the VT-HSS.

This is exactly the reason that S2 has such a bleak future. When funds are wasted in such a manner, it's only time before the airline is bankrupt.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:56 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 1):
Why Arn't Paramount training Indians for Mx & Flt ops.I believe they still use Expats.

from http://www.paramountairways.com/operations.html

Operations

Staffing requirement

Captain
Qualification Indian
Experience ATPL/FRTO/COP-RTR/MEDICAL with minimum of 4000 hrs of flying experience. 1000 hrs of PIC experience on an aircraft AUW exceeding 5700 kgs


First Officer
Qualification Indian
Experience CPL/FRTO/COP-RTR/MEDICAL with muti-engine endorsement
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:57 pm

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 45):
By the looks of it, it seems to be write off.

I don't think so.Not for an overshoot.
But they are paying parking charges unnecessarly.Scrap it or Fly it.
AOG does not earn money.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 3

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:12 pm

Quoting Himmat01 (Reply 45):
He already has the VT-HSS.

VT-HSS was a temporary plane that Boeing gave him pending delivery of his own BBJ.
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