mohamed
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LH: Improved Seat Comfort In Europe

Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:08 pm

Lufthansa has stated on it's website that it will launch new Biz and Eco seating in Europe starting spring 2006.

Link to Lufthansa site

New seats in the Business and Economy Classes will provide a considerable improvement in seating comfort on Lufthansa flights within Germany and Europe as of next spring.
Leather seats will still be standard not only in the Business Class, but also in the Economy Class.
By October, all 140 aircraft in the European fleet will be equipped with the new cabin.
The new seats in the Business Class offer a comfortable seat breadth of 48 cm, in the Economy Class of 44 cm. The room for the knees will be increased by up to 4 cm.
The lower weight of the new seats leads to a reduction in the fuel consumption and thus also the pollutant emissions of the Lufthansa fleet. Calculated for the entire European fleet, that means an annual reduction in fuel consumption of approximately five million liters.



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Sad to see the Old seats going. They were very comfortable. I hope the new seats will have at least radio and decent legroom.

The new ones could be like this :


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Those were used on some B733 on non hub routes. However LH has received complaints about them as they were "uncomfortable and with low pitch" .

Or they could be like/similar the ones Swiss uses now :


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As this is my first Topic and second post , please excuse any problems in Link and pic's etc.
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musapapaya
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:54 am

We have to ask some LH insiders for that! It seems it is a good move though, any offers?
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mohamed
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:01 pm

Aren't there any Lufthanseaten on this Forum ?

Quoting Musapapaya (Reply 1):
It seems it is a good move though, any offers?

definitely is a good move.
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CO7e7
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LH: Improved Seat Comfort In Europe

Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:14 pm

Quoting Mohamed (Reply 2):
Aren't there any Lufthanseaten on this Forum ?

More than you can imagine.
I definitely think it's a good move.. One can always use extra room!
 
Rizzibird
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LH: Improved Seat Comfort In Europe

Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:35 pm

I've seen pictures of the new seats, unfortunately I can't share them. From the pictures I have seen, the new LH seat for European flights looks quite comfrtable. IMO, even better than the new LX one. In C-class, a table (bigger than the one at LX) can be folded out of the backrest of that middle seat. The leader will be in two different shades of grey and gives the seat a much more modern look than the old one.
 
mohamed
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:11 pm

Are the Biz class seats same like ECO (Swiss style with table on the middle ?)
Also will there be a decent IFE at least with Radio or not ?
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mika
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:39 pm

Goody goody news this. The seats are quite nice and comfortable already but of course it never hurts with more of the good stuff!  Smile


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CRJ900
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:47 pm

Type in www.boarding.no and press the English flag, scroll down and see the new seats and read the article. The seats look fab, like E190-style seats... I'm sure they'll be a huge hit  Smile
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mohamed
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:53 pm

Thanks CRJ-900 .
But isn't the article the same as the one I posted ? The pic is also fantastic . Hope I could only get a pic with a better resolution.
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musapapaya
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:55 pm

Seems nice, so the seat is manaufautred by Recaro or BAE? It says in the article that it is either of them.... Quite misleading right?
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mohamed
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:12 pm

I think both ? However if only one then probably Recaro , after all LH's new Biz longhaul is Recaro as are the old ones and the Economy ones. Same with old Shorthaul .
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CRJ900
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Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:13 pm

Quoting Mohamed (Reply 8):
Thanks CRJ-900 .
But isn't the article the same as the one I posted ?

Yes, I think the article is the same, I posted this in a hurry, so just included everything  Smile
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mika
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:11 am


The pic posted on boarding.no

http://www.boarding.no/art.asp?id=19647
 
CRJ900
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:24 am

What a clever design, using the seatback as the table by flipping it out and down instead of inserting an extra tabletop which must be stored somewhere when not in use (se pic of SWISS seats in first post).

Way to go, LH  thumbsup 
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mohamed
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Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:34 am

Thanks for the pic Mikz . That is way better.
Doesn't seem to have radio tough !
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airbazar
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RE: LH : Improved Seat Comfort In Europe

Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:38 am

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 13):
What a clever design, using the seatback as the table by flipping it out and down instead of inserting an extra tabletop which must be stored somewhere when not in use

I could be wrong because the article is not specific enough but I get the impression that the seats will still have a flipdown table. The backrest flip down center console, as it is referred in the article, appears to be an addition and not a substitute to the flip down table.

The seats do look good though.

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