planemanofnz
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Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:15 pm

Hello,

I am trying to book a flight between Dublin and anywhere in Holland around the end of April to see some friends who are currently living in Hilversum, outside of Amsterdam.
I know that Aer Lingus fly to Schipol and Ryanair flies to Eindhoven but I am trying to fly into Rotterdam with Transavania.
Transavania.com will not let me book flights from Dublin past March and the schedule says that the service will be terminated on the 25th of March and re-instated on the 1st of November.
The schedule on the Dublin airport website says that the service goes through untill the 27th of June. Can anybody tell me is the service seasonal and will it be operating around April?

Also, I am a bit disappointed to see that KLM do not fly to Dublin with their own metal. Does anybody know why?

Thanks in advance,
Colin
 
lamedianaranja
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:29 pm

Transavia.com (HV) is the correct name, btw. I'm sure if they say they won't fly they won't because otherwise they're losing a lot of booking opportunities already.

Aer Lingus and KLM codeshare, have been doing it for ages and KL seems to be happy with it. EI handling at AMS is now done by the Transaviapeople instead of KL, not much difference there.
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planemanofnz
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:50 pm

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 1):
Aer Lingus and KLM codeshare, have been doing it for ages and KL seems to be happy with it.

Yes but still, they are loosing out on a route which could be profitable. Other routes which I have looked at booking from Dubin include:
-Brussels which SN Brussels did not operate.
-Paris which AF have used their 'subsidary' Cityjet to fly (and btw, the service on Cityjet is bad compared to mainline AF)
Seems like EI and FR get some of these routes just to themselves.........
 
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:00 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 2):
-Brussels which SN Brussels did not operate.
-Paris which AF have used their 'subsidary' Cityjet to fly (and btw, the service on Cityjet is bad compared to mainline AF)

True, unfortunately SN Brussels don't operate into DUB? yet I believe they do so in the summers into ORK. Pity, as I've heard their service is great.

Regarding Air France by Cityjet, haven't flown them for a couple of years, but alst time I did service was excllent for a short flight. The only downside are those ancient and uncomfortable 146's they operate.

As Lamedianaranja said, KLM have codeshared on EI flights for a long time, and are apparently happy with the agreement.
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Grbld
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:38 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 2):
Yes but still, they are loosing out on a route which could be profitable.

And you know this could be profitable because...? I know Transavia.com has some good specials on Dublin right now (from 4.99 plus tax one-way) but don't know which dates. It seems the route is pretty slow and they're cutting back as well.

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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:46 pm

If you want to go cheap, just get a Ryanair ticket. Eindhoven is a good airport and approximately a one hour ride from Hilversum, with a almost direct train connection.  Smile
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imatams
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:07 pm

Quoting Fokker70NG (Reply 5):
with a almost direct train connection.

Except that it takes forever to reach the airport by bus from the train station..
 
PHKLM
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:12 am

The route RTM-DUB will be cut by Transavia from March 25th on (according to their website). I suggest you take a AerLingus flight to AMS, as it is much closer to Hilversum. Forget about this "almost direct train connection" from Eindhoven; the trip will take you two hours and cost EUR15,- one-way.
If you book your AerLingus flight right away, it's less than EUR 100,- taxes included round-trip. Doensn't sound too bad.
Enjoy your stay in The Netherlands.

[Edited 2006-01-04 18:33:32]
 
Fokker70NG
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:56 am

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 7):
The route RTM-DUB will be cut by Transavia from March 25th on (according to their website). I suggest you take a AerLingus flight to AMS, as it is much closer to Hilversum. Forget about this "almost direct train connection" from Eindhoven; the trip will take you two hours and cost EUR15,- one-way.

I agree that AMS is closer to Hilversum, but I live in Hilversum myself and last time I went from Eindhoven to Hilversum by train (I must admit this was a year ago) it took me an hour approximately. Could be that the schedule has changed though, a lot depends on your connection in Utrecht. I apologize if I gave wrong information.
If you choose EI, there is a direct train connection from Schiphol to Hilversum which will take 35 to 55 minutes, depending the train you take.
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Buyantukhaa
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting IMatAMS (Reply 6):
Except that it takes forever to reach the airport by bus from the train station



Quoting PHKLM (Reply 7):
Forget about this "almost direct train connection" from Eindhoven; the trip will take you two hours and cost EUR15,- one-way.



Quoting Fokker70NG (Reply 8):
last time I went from Eindhoven to Hilversum by train (I must admit this was a year ago) it took me an hour approximately. Could be that the schedule has changed though, a lot depends on your connection in Utrecht. I apologize if I gave wrong information.

Flight FR1964 arrives in EIN at 1845. Assuming half an hour to get through the airport, use www.9292ov.nl to get the rest.

Bus leaves at 19.16, arriving at the Eindhoven railway station at 19.40
Train leaves at 19.57 for Utrecht, arriving there at 20.47. Change to Leiden bound train leaving Utrecht at 20.54 and you'll arrive in Hilversum at 21.13, so 1h57' after leaving EIN.

Total price €3,20 (bus) + €14,10 (train) = €17,30 one way.
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PHKLM
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:33 am

Total price €3,20 (bus) + €14,10 (train) = €17,30 one way.
Okay decent job, very detailed.
Still, I'd advise to go to AMS; it might take a little longer at the airport, but the train station is conveniently located near the arrivals hall. Trains to Hilversum depart every 15 minutes and cost EUR 6,30 one way. The trip takes about 35 to 45 minutes (depends whether you take a local or intercity service). See www.ns.nl Please note you have to use "Schiphol" as departure station.
Enjoy booking your trip and discovering the ins-and-outs. Personally I always enjoy this trip-planning, with checking flights, etc.
 
planemanofnz
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:56 am

Thank you all for your replies,

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 10):
Still, I'd advise to go to AMS; it might take a little longer at the airport

Where do you check in for the EI flights? Can you use the KLM self-check in 'booths'?

Quoting PHKLM (Reply 7):
The route RTM-DUB will be cut by Transavia

Any idea if FR or EI will pick it up?

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 3):
The only downside are those ancient and uncomfortable 146's they operate.

I agree. I do not understand why AF do not fly their own airbus or boeing aircraft on the route to CDG. Dublin-Malaga I can understand as being a 146 because it is a leisure route however there is alot of business on the DUB-CDG sector and beyond CDG. Surely AF must realise operating a 318 or 735 on the route would be a better experience for customers.

Currently, I think I will be taking the EI route DUB-AMS. I will not need to take a train into Hilversum as my friends will be picking me up from Schipol.
 
Fokker70NG
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:17 pm

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 11):


Quoting PHKLM (Reply 7)::

The route RTM-DUB will be cut by Transavia

Any idea if FR or EI will pick it up?

As for FR, RTM hasn't much room for expansion and will most probably be too expensive for FR. Moreover, I believe HV may stop flights without selling their slots to others.

[Edited 2006-01-05 09:19:14]
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:14 pm

Quoting Fokker70NG (Reply 12):
Moreover, I believe HV may stop flights without selling their slots to others.

But they wouldn't be able to do that for more than a year, due to the use-it-or-lose-it principle, an IATA rule that says that 70% or 80% of slots must be used in order to be able to keep them.
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Fri Jan 06, 2006 7:04 am

Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 11):
Where do you check in for the EI flights? Can you use the KLM self-check in 'booths'?

Yes you may use KL's blue self service machines in Departure 2 for EI checkin. It's useful only to do this if you have a machine readable passport. Otherwise please go straight to counter 14/15, it will save you some hassle.
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planemanofnz
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RE: Flying - Dublin To The Netherlands

Thu Jan 19, 2006 4:37 pm

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 13):
But they wouldn't be able to do that for more than a year, due to the use-it-or-lose-it principle

They would probably just introduce a new route or increase frquencies on existing routes.

Thanks for all of your help guys,

Colin

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