MAH4546
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Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:21 am

Delta has applied with US DOT to begin daily service between Atlanta and Ecuador. Delta propsoed to begin daily Atlanta-Quito-Guayaquil-Atlanta 757 service on 1 June 2005.

Docket:
http://dms.dot.gov/search/document.c...m?documentid=379938&docketid=23526

Current service between the US and Ecuador:

American Airlines:
Miami-Quito-Miami 14x weekly
Miami-Guayaquil-Miami 7x weekly

Continental Airlines:
Houston-Quito-Houston 7x weekly
Houston-Guayaquil-Houston 2x weekly (7x weekly during peak times)
Newark-Guaqaquil-Newark 7x weekly

LAN Chile:
Miami-Bogota-Guayaquil-Santiago-Guayaquil-Bogota-Miami 1x weekly

LAN Ecuador:
Miami-Quito-Guayaquil-Quito-Miami 7x weekly
New York City/JFK-Guayaquil-New York City/JFK 7x weekly
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:29 am

Excellent, about time DL goes for that. UIO and GYE were 2 of many routes planned new service to in 1998, and nothing has happened in 7 years until now. It obviously fits in with DL's recent expansion, and also has the advantage that DL has finally some other longhaul flights that don't require 763s  Silly .
 
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:56 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Thread starter):
Delta propsoed to begin daily Atlanta-Quito-Guayaquil-Atlanta 757 service on 1 June 2005.

Do you mean 1 June 2006?

If this goes through, it really means excellent news!!! about time one has another option in Ecuador to fly to the US... Too bad no United or US Airways service, which still shows the lack of Star Alliance service to Ecuador. With this new flight, Skyteam will be more "even" to compete against Oneworld dominance in Ecuador.

Also, in the list of US-Ecuador service, you missed the following flight for Contiental

Continental Airlines
EWR-PTY-UIO-PTY-EWR 7x weekly (this flight used to be done via Bogota, now they changed the flight and is via Panama)

Can't wait till is official. It will be great to see DL 757 at UIO!!!
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:03 am

GREAT NEWS! Hopefully on a SPOTABLE time schedule (NOT AT NIGHT)  Smile
 
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:06 am

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
GREAT NEWS! Hopefully on a SPOTABLE time schedule (NOT AT NIGHT) Smile

Sorry, pretty much like the CO service:

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b241/tdasher/Delta_EC.jpg

I personally prefer AA's schedule as they overnight and it's much less exhausting. The CO flight is not pleasant and the only plus for DL over this is that they're using a 757 instead of a 737.
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 2):
Continental Airlines
EWR-PTY-UIO-PTY-EWR 7x weekly (this flight used to be done via Bogota, now they changed the flight and is via Panama)

Indeed, I did not list it, but only because CO is discontinuing EWR-PTY-UIO. Last flight is 24 January 2006. Doesn't look to be seasonal either.
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:31 am

Always nice to see DL expand int'l!
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:18 am

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 4):
Sorry, pretty much like the CO service:

It seems like Delta's int'l expansion plan is to copy Continental. A run down through Delta's current leadership team explains it. Big grin Heck, they are even copying the timetable!
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:30 am

Ecuadoreans usually don't travel light southbound.
There may not be a sizable ATL-Ecuador O/D traffic, but the connecting possibilities @ ATL would really make the flight worth it.
B757 to Ecuador, that's a goodone for DL...
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:08 pm

Quoting BHMBAGLOCK (Reply 4):
Sorry, pretty much like the CO service:



I personally prefer AA's schedule as they overnight and it's much less exhausting. The CO flight is not pleasant and the only plus for DL over this is that they're using a 757 instead of a 737.

ARRRRRRR..... Well, if it arrives at 9:00 this is about the time UIO fogs up, and they have to divert and come in next morning, so that would be the ONLY chance. Very bad schedule for spotters like me  Sad
 
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:22 pm

Have fun on DL's 757's, quite possibly the WORST airplane for comfort that they have!!! DL's 757's have the worst pitch and no seat comfort, I've had many back aches from these on the flight from ATL-PHX. That middle seat is pure agony...they should be ashamed.
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:42 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 5):
Indeed, I did not list it, but only because CO is discontinuing EWR-PTY-UIO. Last flight is 24 January 2006. Doesn't look to be seasonal either.

I didn't know CO was cutting down the EWR-PTY-UIO flight.. that's pretty sad, does anyone know why the cut?
Could it be bad loads? I always thought they did pretty good in their EWR flights, but I suppose it has gone down, especially with Copa flying to JFK..... I have to say this though, I did know that making the flight through PTY would not be a good idea, as CM has 2 daily flights between UIO and PTY, thus they wouldn't have much luck selling seats on the UIO-PTY segment... when they use to have the BOG-UIO-BOG segments, they did pretty good and now, they just cut the service to EWR all together.... how sad.
Any new information about this would be appreciated.
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:04 pm

Good! I always wondered why DL did not serve Ecuador and thought that they would end up codesharing on AV´s flights to UIO and GYE....
 
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:54 pm

Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 10):
Have fun on DL's 757's, quite possibly the WORST airplane for comfort that they have!!!

I do remember that most DL 757 have very old interior, are there any plans to upgrade them?
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:03 pm

Quoting Atnight (Reply 13):
I do remember that most DL 757 have very old interior, are there any plans to upgrade them?

Starting in May, they'll get the Song interior (and the Song planes will get the DL first class and wavy-gravy).

[Edited 2006-01-05 07:16:13]
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:21 pm

Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 10):
Have fun on DL's 757's, quite possibly the WORST airplane for comfort that they have!!! DL's 757's have the worst pitch and no seat comfort, I've had many back aches from these on the flight from ATL-PHX. That middle seat is pure agony...they should be ashamed.

Apparently, you've never flown internationally on one of Delta's 757s. Foot rests and the move comfortable First Class I've ever felt. Great pitch on the FC seats, and the headrest almost felt like it was filled with gel, it was so soft and comfortable. I fell right to sleep on a 45 minute flight. Couldn't beat it. Delta's 757's to BOG, etc. have different configurations for First Class, so its not the standard Delta seat.



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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:04 pm

Quoting Atnight (Reply 13):
I do remember that most DL 757 have very old interior, are there any plans to upgrade them?

Actually, quite a few of them have been refurbished with the new interiors, i.e., all leather seating, new brighter cabins and lavs, new signage, etc. Flew on a bunch of 757s domestically over the holidays and all of them had the new interiors.

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 15):
Foot rests and the move comfortable First Class I've ever felt. Great pitch on the FC seats, and the headrest almost felt like it was filled with gel

Yes, I love those 757s as well; unfortunately, there are only a few of them which they use only very occasionally on domestic flights. Looks like the new UIO/GYE flights will use these as the DOT application lists 22 F seats (which these few 75s are configured for)...as Otto said, great pitch and footrests to boot...
 
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:22 pm

Quoting Panamair (Reply 16):
Yes, I love those 757s as well; unfortunately, there are only a few of them which they use only very occasionally on domestic flights. Looks like the new UIO/GYE flights will use these as the DOT application lists 22 F seats (which these few 75s are configured for)...as Otto said, great pitch and footrests to boot...

Oh wow, so the 757s to Ecuador more likely will be the "new" 757s from Delta (Song)? That would be just what AA, CO among others need to feel pressure on upgrading their international product... A 5 hour flight and no personal IFE, sure makes the flight feel long.... glad DL is making a good move and putting a good configuration to attract customers, because believe it or not, that will be a key feture to advertise and make folks swith over from other airlines in Ecuador....

Also, no one has mentioned as to why exactly CO stoped the service to UIO from EWR... could someone tells us what's going on? So far it looks that it will not even have a seasonal service, which is really weird.... Traffic didn't seem bad at all, but I could be wrong.
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:42 am

Quoting Atnight (Reply 17):
Also, no one has mentioned as to why exactly CO stoped the service to UIO from EWR... could someone tells us what's going on? So far it looks that it will not even have a seasonal service, which is really weird.... Traffic didn't seem bad at all, but I could be wrong.

CO EWR-PTY-UIO flight arrived(s) PTY around 2200h; it doesn't fit into CM evenning hub hour and is delayed quite often.
UIO Airport is supposed to close 2400h; I supposed there have been times when that CO flight has to wait in PTY untill 0400 to depart to UIO, do a quick turn-around and return back to PTY-EWR.
CO Best EWR-Ecuador service would be a B757 EWR-UIO-GYE-EWR, arriving UIO either at 2200h (convenient connections from Europe @ EWR) or 0600h (for convenient connetions to Europe and Ecuadorean passengers going onto Cuenca by air from UIO or car from GYE).
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting Incitatus (Reply 7):
It seems like Delta's int'l expansion plan is to copy Continental. A run down through Delta's current leadership team explains it. Heck, they are even copying the timetable!

How is applying for ATL-UIO coppying CO?
 
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RE: Delta Plans Ecuador Service

Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:45 am

Quoting DL Widget Head (Reply 19):
How is applying for ATL-UIO coppying CO?

I also don't think DL is copying CO at all..... It's about time DL expands its service to Ecuador..... They are doing great in their ATL-BOG flight, and the next logical route for expansion in South America, should be Ecuador (since Argentina was awarded to CO).
If anything, Delta will be the best option for people traveling to the northeast, since from UIO you will only get Houston and Miami, as CO is shrinking their presence in Ecuador rather than strengthening, with their apparent suspension of the EWR-UIO flight... I am very glad to see DL going for Ecuador and I hope their service only gets better and they stay for lots of years to come!
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