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Flying From The US To Wales?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:39 pm

Hey everyone! I'm thinking about flying from the US to Wales this summer. I would probably stay only a week and a half with my cousin in Swansea, before flying back to the US, or continuing onto Thailand with them. So, my question is what airlines would offer through service to Swansea? I would most likely fly from STL, so I could get to ORD or JFK really easily. Would I be able to fly into Swansea, or would I have to fly to Cardiff? Would it be easier to just get off in London, and take the train?
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:56 pm

Quoting Frontiercpt (Thread starter):
Would it be easier to just get off in London, and take the train?

Probably your best bet. I can't think of anyone that flies direct to Wales from the US. You could connect at LHR or LGW and go on BA to them but at that point you would have already been close by taking the train. Heck, rent a car and head out on the M4 westbound and stop and see the sites at Windsor, Stonehenge, and Salisbury.
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:24 pm

Since Air Wales stopped service to SWS from LCY in 2004/5, Swansea has no scheduled service AFAIK.

Continental fly EWR-BRS and then it's about 1.5 hrs by train from Bristol Parkway to Swansea (trains every hour). The airport is around 15 miles from the station but I think a bus connects.

Cardiff Airport is closer (around 35 miles to Swansea) and has scheduled service with KLM to AMS - I think 4xday. From Cardiff Airport there's a coach to Swansea (I think), or a bus to Cardiff Central train station (definite!). Swansea is 1hr by train from here (usually 2-3 trains per hour).

London is 3hrs by train from Swansea (from Paddington - same station as Heathrow Express). If you don't fancy the exorbitant HEx charges, jump on to the RailAir coach link at the airport to Reading and join the Swansea train from there.

It all depends on how confident you are with the connections, and of course the difference in the air fares you come across.

(London to Swansea Rail: Cheapest £45-50 return (restricted departures) upto £150 for an open return)
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:07 pm

Just remembered: Cardiff Airport now has its own railway station, accessible by shuttle bus from the airport terminal. You can get on a train here to Bridgend (25 mins) and then connect to a Swansea service (20 mins).
 
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:58 pm

Well I always fly into Manchester and then head into North Wales (queensferry etc) and have no problems. South Wales I would go with the folsk who posted above.

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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:12 pm

If you want an alternative to BRS, try BHX (Birmingham). Excellent train connections all over Wales from Birmingham New Street. Or, you could (again) hire a car and take in the lovely country on the borders: Hay-on-Wye, and surroundings.
 
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:18 pm

Quoting Feroze (Reply 2):
The airport is around 15 miles from the station but I think a bus connects.

Yep. It's regular and goes to Temple Meads Train Station (the main one) and the main bus station.

I would recommend BRS, BHX or LHR.
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:42 pm

Personally I would fly into LHR or LGW and I'm saying this as someone that lives on the west coast of Wales 60 miles west of Swansea.

I wouldn't fly EWR-BRS because you will be waiting an hour for the so called every 30 mins bus service to Bristol Templemeads train station then end up on the not very desireable 2 carriage portsmouth harbour to cardiff central which you might have to change trains again for Swansea and takes about 2 hours.

If you were fly into LHR or LGW you would get into London pretty easily and London Paddington to Swansea is a direct 3 1/2 hours comfortable journey.

I can't comment on BHX because I've bever flown in there or had to travel there by train, all I can tell you is you're most likely to get a virgin train service which are not always the cheapest.

Enjoy trip down here in the summer, there is a lot more to the Swansea area than the city with some stunning coastline and if you're coming in august you might get the chance to watch the best team in wales playing in our lovely new stadium lol
 
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:19 am

I would fly STL-AMS-CWL on NW/KL- you will get an easy connection through AMS.

Then I would take the train from Cardiff Airport to Bridgend and change for Swansea.

I would not fly to London and then take the train as it is a pain to get on the Railair coach and then have a long train journey on top of that. The train can be expensive, is often delayed and not particularly comfortable.
 
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:49 am

Quoting Cambrian (Reply 8):
and then have a long train journey on top of that. The train can be expensive, is often delayed and not particularly comfortable.

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I often like taking train journeys in Europe, probably because I don't do it that often. I find it is usually comfortable and the scenery is always worth staying awake for - sort of reminds me that I am in a different country! As for delays, yes they are inevitable and the UK has some of the most delay-prone trains in the world. But you'll get where you need to go.

I'd recommend LHR or LGW as viable options. From LHR, forget the Heathrow Express train to Paddington. As someone else mentioned, take the bus to Reading. I did this (in reverse) last summer and it was a quick, efficient and comfortable operation. The trains from Reading to Cardiff and Swansea are high speed and should be comfortable; they only make a handful of stops. From LGW, I'd recommend taking a train to Reading - it takes an hour and a half and makes a dozen stops but it is not too bad... definitely better than dealing with Central London.

Flying to BRS might be your cheapest way, all options considered, but I think LHR and LGW make fine choices as long as you don't mind spending a few hours on the train.
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:01 am

If your cousin is going to pick you up at the airport and/or you're returning to the States - fly CO BRS.
If not or if you're continuing to Thailand, best to fly to LHR, LGW maybe even MAN, BHX and have that UK stop as a stop on a STL-BKK-STL or Around-the-world ticket. STL-DTW-AMS-CWL-AMS-BKK-MSP-STL with NW/KL is a possible route.
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:31 am

I think that the best option would be flying via AMS from STL and then get a KLM City Hopper to CWL.

Another option is fly to MAN from ORD with BA, AA or BMI and then connect on the Air Southwest service from MAN to CWL - . This route is 2x daily with a morning departure and an evening departure.

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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:58 am

I did the KLM YYZ-AMS-CWL a few years ago and it was great. Catching the train can get expensive and the bus ride down from London is a pain after flying for so long.
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:41 am

Quoting AIRCANL1011 (Reply 12):
I did the KLM YYZ-AMS-CWL a few years ago and it was great. Catching the train can get expensive and the bus ride down from London is a pain after flying for so long.

You should come over again, try Zoom!
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:47 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 1):
I can't think of anyone that flies direct to Wales from the US.

I can't think of anyone who flies to Wales from London either. If you want to fly from North America to Wales without stopping, there are nonstops from Toronto on Zoom (see Reply 13 from our friend Christa) or maybe Air Transat as well (hey, if they do Exeter...). Mega cheap as well.


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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:55 am

Quoting Christa (Reply 13):
Quoting AIRCANL1011 (Reply 12):
I did the KLM YYZ-AMS-CWL a few years ago and it was great. Catching the train can get expensive and the bus ride down from London is a pain after flying for so long.

You should come over again, try Zoom!

I grew up in Pontyclun which is between Cardiff and Swansea (Kinda) and I come over every couple years. I have flown with Air Transat a couple of times from YYZ to CWL. The time I went with KLM I came in March so there was no flights from YYZ to CWL. Air Transat only flew there between April and October.

I was actually looking at flights the other day and Zoom was at the top of my list. Flying direct to CWL is so much better as I usually stay in Bridgend.
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:38 am

Hey guys! Thanks so much for all the suggestions, there are a lot lol, much more than I was expecting! Anyways, ya, I took a look at Zoom, and if I went from Toronto, I would want to spend a few days there, because a very close friend of mine lives there. So, if I bought a separate ticket on whatever airline was cheapest from STL-YYZ, and then flew Zoom out to CWL, would I be able to? Like, would there be any lawa prohibiting a US citizen from flying out of Canada to Wales? Stupid question, but you know, I'm just curious lol. Also, say, if I were to continue on to Thailand, what airline would you guys suggest taking? It would probably be easiest to fly out of London (I'm assuming?), but I can't stand long haul flights, I like to stop at a hub that is like halfway (STL-DEN-LAS for example), so from London to Thailand, would that be possible? Thanks a ton guys! Big grin
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:48 am

Quoting Frontiercpt (Reply 16):
Like, would there be any lawa prohibiting a US citizen from flying out of Canada to Wales? Stupid question, but you know, I'm just curious lol.

Once you're in a foreign country, you are subject to its laws. Canada and the UK are both free countries and will have absolutely no problem with your flying between them.

As for your being a citizen of the USA, as long as there's no economic embargo on either the place you're coming from, or the place you're going to, you can fly absolutely anywhere, from anywhere.

Trust me: as a US national living abroad (in Britain), I've flown UK-Italy / France / Germany / Holland / Belgium / Spain / Austria / Czech Republic, France-Algeria, and (in a long string) Singapore to Vietnam to Thailand to Sri Lanka to the Maldives to India to Switzerland to the UK, yes, really, on a US passport and no one batted an eye when I came back to the States.
 
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:00 pm

Sweet, ya, I really hope that I can head on to Thailand after Wales, but maybe I will end up making a few stops in Belgium, and Germany to see my other cousins (Thai families continue on forever!), but whatever, I'll just be happy to escape the US lol.
 
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RE: Flying From The US To Wales?

Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:29 pm

Quoting AIRCANL1011 (Reply 15):
I grew up in Pontyclun which is between Cardiff and Swansea (Kinda) and I come over every couple years. I have flown with Air Transat a couple of times from YYZ to CWL. The time I went with KLM I came in March so there was no flights from YYZ to CWL. Air Transat only flew there between April and October.

I was actually looking at flights the other day and Zoom was at the top of my list. Flying direct to CWL is so much better as I usually stay in Bridgend.

Ah right. Well, I live just south of Pontypridd, near Nantgarw. I know Pontyclun quite well and we always play them in Rugby (I play for a local amateur rugby team).

If you have e-mail or MSN, my address is cmjmiles@hotmail.co.uk, feel free to drop me a line or add me. It would be nice to catch up with some people from Wales, even though you now live in Canada.

Frontiercpt,

As for flying STL-YYZ with the cheapest airline and then flying on the Zoom YYZ-CWL service, that would probably be the cheapest and easiest method to do things. Zoom are relatively cheap and I am sure that the flights between Toronto and STL are reasonable. As for flying onto Thailand, may I suggest that you fly CWL-CDG with BMIbaby - http://www.bmibaby.com and then fly to BKK from CDG either with EK or GF connecting at their respective hubs. This would then split up the journey and you'd also be able to see more countries. There is also a direct flight with AF to BKK from CDG and you could also fly CWL-AMS-BKK with KL.

Hope this helps!

Regards,
Chris
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