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Question About Concorde

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:17 pm

I know that the Concorde has been retired, but are Concordes still operational in any way?

The reason I ask is that I saw this photo:

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/986087/M/

The photo information says it was taken just a week or two ago.

Thanks in advance.

Also, to the Staff: I didn't know where to post this message, so I chose Civil Aviation. Sorry if it's misposted -- please feel free to redirect it to the correct one.
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RE: Question About Concorde

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:24 pm

hehe...

They are just lights in the engines. If that were real, you'd see Concorde shooting off into the sky.

All parts hat could be re-used would have been removed.

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RE: Question About Concorde

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:26 pm

No, Concorde is on stationary display at CDG. You can see the mountings on the wheels. The afterburner glow is created by red lights which are installed in the engines, I suppose.

In my opinion the photographer just wanted to stress the 'ready to go' look with his remark... (and by the way... isn't she beautiful?! )


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RE: Question About Concorde

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:27 pm

Are you asking because of the after burn in the engines ???
In think they might be lights.




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RE: Question About Concorde

Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:49 pm

Thanks for the comments!  

I love the Concorde, and wish I could have flown in it. Perhaps one day, there'll be another SST, but for now, we civvies are stuck with subsonic.

Years from now, maybe there will be a "son of Concorde". Here's hoping.  

[Edit: I truly feel like an idiot. I just noticed that the Concorde in the photo was elevated on a couple of stands. I should have realized that it was a static display. In the immortal words of Homer Simpson: "D'Oh!"  Embarrassment )

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RE: Question About Concorde

Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:43 pm

Quoting PositiveClimb (Reply 2):
The afterburner glow is created by red lights which are installed in the engines, I suppose.

Right.

This is what it looked like, for real :


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RE: Question About Concorde

Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:59 pm

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 5):
This is what it looked like, for real :

Woo! Great photos!  Smile

Methinks Air France and BA should do a yearly flight for people who simply want the experience. (Yes, I know it's probably completely uneconomical and unreasonable, but there are things that are beyond price.  Wink )
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RE: Question About Concorde

Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:26 am

If it's flying, why is it on a pedastal?

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RE: Question About Concorde

Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:31 am

Quoting AerospaceFan (Reply 6):
Woo! Great photos!

Aren't they just - sadly missed. I was fortunate enough to travel on both G-BOAF and AG back in the early 90s - what a fantastic experience! Flying along the English Channel at 1,350 mph sipping champagne and eating lobster - them were they days.

Shame she'll never fly again  Sad

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RE: Question About Concorde

Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:23 am

It is not possible to resume any kind of operations, the type certificate is withdrawn, the aircraft decommissioned (permanently), the support network 2 years gone and pretty impossible to bring back.

BA and AF did provide much lower cost trips, we at BA called them 'round the bays', as they originally went around the Bay Of Biscay.
These were the most common charters, AF were doing them until the end, BA did not post the 2001 re-launch, as they had become barely profitable, for BA that is, not the charter company!

In 1999, the last full year BA Concorde did a charter operation (which at best, provided just 9% of Concorde revenue), there were 36 LHR-LHR charters.
Including one on Christmas Day.
Including two (OAA and OAC), which chased the Aug 11th eclipse.

However, some were also operated from other UK airports, like MAN, BHX, LBA, EXT, FZO, MSE, even some abroad, such as from CDG.

Plenty of other types of charters too, but the basic, 90-100 min, 10 mins or so at Mach 2, BA9010C LHR-LHR, was the cheapest way to get on a supersonic flight.
Though rather a short flight, the BA9010C's, with 100 pax, but no baggage and a much lower fuel load, really got away fast, even by Concorde standards.

The first was in 1978, an early BA Concorde pilot was urged by his local pub to charter one for a pleasure trip.
From the early 80's these sort of charters steadily increased, good PR, easy to do, the aircraft being increasingly profitable on it's scheduled routes anyway.

But it's gone and not coming back, a new SST is at best decades away, it happens at all.
Whilst I feel sorry for those that wanted to, but missed flying Concorde, both operators did offer this more affordable way to experience it for many years.

I wanted to see a Saturn V launch from Kennedy Space Centre, but was way too young when the last one went, life is sometimes like that.