SHUPirate1
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US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:08 am

http://www.shareholder.com/americawe...ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=183199

The affected routes are CLT-PHL/IND/LEX/RIC/PHF/CHA/ABE/PGV/MDT/PVD/PIT, PHL-ROC/BTV/ALB/CLT/CAK/GSO, and PIT-ROC/SYR/LGA/CLT
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting SHUPirate1 (Thread starter):
US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

They sure lowered them last year to about $2
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:28 am

just an arm, no longer an arm and a leg???
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:58 am

So the hub routes are cheaper... losing the hub-premium I suppose? I guess those CR2s and the A320 to CLT from up here might get some actual O&D butts in the seats instead of just people connecting to their sunny vacations.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:25 am

These prices are still far more than what B6 charges to the respective cities from JFK (ROC/PIT/PHL/BTV).
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:40 am

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 4):
PIT/PHL

B6 goes there now? Interesting, Dan Onorato will be happy to hear they finally recruited them to PIT now.  Yeah sure Why should US kill their own yields on routes? New-to-market LCC's do it with cheap fares because they're trying to steal market share from other's already established in a said market... not because they feel like it.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:52 am

The HP pricing group probably found out what a mess the complex US fare stratification was and said forget it. If they truly are converting everything to the HP LCC model we should expect to see more of this. It will be interesting to see how they are going to make transatlantic pricing work with it.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 3:59 am

US should've done this many years ago, as it would have saved a significant portion of their marketshare back East. At least it's being done now to help defend its marketshare from competitors, especially from WN, B6 and FL. Although this is a major step in the right direction, there still is work to be done.
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:16 am

It looks like US is dressing up some ordinary Jan.-Feb. demand-trough seat-filler fares with a press release. The fares aren't even all that low. ROC-PHL for advance RT $198 is still higher than the advance RT $116 I generally pay on AirTran for longer ROC-BWI. And PHL-CLT at $278 for advance RT is probably much higher than what AirTran (or WN if they entered CLT) would charge for advance RT if they served the route.

Regarding introductory fares by new LCC's on a route: there's more to them than taking market share of an existing demand pie. When an LCC enters a route, they tend to generate new demand, that is ongoing with their regular, non-introductory low fares. And they make money doing it. Thus, WN generated strong ongoing new demand on say PVD-PHL and PVD-BWI.

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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:09 am

One-thousand-two-hundred dollars is what it'll cost you to go from Manchester (NH) to Charlotte. I kid you not. That is FIVE roundtrips from Boston to Dublin on Aer Lingus. Can you believe that?

The mainline carriers are forcing us back to Boston. Delta is doing it, United is doing it, and now USAirways is doing it.

No tears will be spilled when Southwest enters Charlotte. Only a fool would think that Southwest will limit its expansion to PHL and PIT. The next obvious station is CLT.

USAirways charging over a THOUSAND dollars to go from Manchester to Charlotte is exactly why Southwest should run 'em out of town. And I hope they do.

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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:17 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
And I hope they do.

Then I hope you're happy when you can only access 60 (or so, not sure on the exact tally) cities, and no international at all. Then all the "I hope Southwest runs (insert Legacy here) out of town" folks can be happy. Like they say, be careful what you wish for.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:26 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
One-thousand-two-hundred dollars is what it'll cost you to go from Manchester (NH) to Charlotte. I kid you not. That is FIVE roundtrips from Boston to Dublin on Aer Lingus. Can you believe that?

I just checked on usairways.com and they list the cheapest available ticket for MHT-CLT as $381 r/t.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:34 am

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 1):
They sure lowered them last year to about $2

They will be going even cheaper next month. 50 cents. No joke.
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
USAirways charging over a THOUSAND dollars to go from Manchester to Charlotte is exactly why Southwest should run 'em out of town. And I hope they do.

Manchester, UK or Manchester, New Hampshire?
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:49 am

Manchester, UK to CLT is currently running at $407 round-trip...thats a trip you couldn't take on SWA.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:28 am

Quoting Cltguy (Reply 12):

They will be going even cheaper next month. 50 cents. No joke.
http://www.50centflights.com

Selling one flight for .50 cents after buying the credit card with an annual fee of like $65 is probably less money lost than CO has lost giving me 5% off for the past 9 months on ALL flights because I enrolled in their credit card.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:49 am

Sounds like US is lowering it just enough to make the flight not seem like a complete rip-off. Probably to try and keep more LCC's out of CLT, PHL, and PIT. Something tells me that this will still be a losing battle for US.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:50 pm

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 15):
Selling one flight for .50 cents after buying the credit card with an annual fee of like $65 is probably less money lost than CO has lost giving me 5% off for the past 9 months on ALL flights because I enrolled in their credit card.

There is no annual fee for the first 2 years. Also you can potentialy get up to (4) 50 cent flights. Sounds like a good deal to me.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:58 am

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
One-thousand-two-hundred dollars is what it'll cost you to go from Manchester (NH) to Charlotte. I kid you not. That is FIVE roundtrips from Boston to Dublin on Aer Lingus. Can you believe that?



Quoting Cltguy (Reply 11):
I just checked on usairways.com and they list the cheapest available ticket for MHT-CLT as $381 r/t.

I just checked http://www.usairways.com for r/t MHT-CLT fares for several weekends plus Jan. 9-11 and came up with the following results:

Jan. 27-29 (3-weeks advance) lowest n/s r/t fare is listed at $411.60; lowest fare listed was $292.30.

Jan. 20-22 (2-weeks advance) lowest r/t fare is listed at $424.60

Jan. 13-16 (MLK weekend, 1-week advance) lowest n/s r/t fare is listed at $1255.60; lowest fare listed was $542.30 but its itinerary involved 2 connections (PHL & JAX at 7 hours of total travel time) each way.

Jan. 9-11 (3-days advance, no Saturday night stay) lowest n/s r/t fare is listed at $1255.60; lowest fare listed was $576.30 but its itinerary involved 2 connections (PHL & BWI at 7 hours of total travel time) each way.

So ChrisNH's $1200+ MHT-CLT r/t claim is indeed a valid one.

At its highest, a WN r/t last-minute r/t fare (if it served CLT) would be just over $600 (includes taxes & fees); about half of US' last-minute MHT-CLT fares (with a reasonable itinerary).
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:29 am

Quoting Cltguy (Reply 17):
There is no annual fee for the first 2 years. Also you can potentialy get up to (4) 50 cent flights. Sounds like a good deal to me.

If that's the case, is there a minimum contract? I'll cut the thing up after 20 months or so.  Smile
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:56 am

What US is charging from PHL/EWR to CLT is absurd. If there is a domestic route that any airlines are making a profit from, it has to be EWR-CLT with CO or US, the bastards charge in excess of 250 plus... and whenever im on these flights, there always full....

WHERE IS MY B6? Come to Charlotte, and drive the big Full Far- I mean "LCC" US Airways into the ground.
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:11 am

Quoting Boeingguy1 (Reply 20):
If there is a domestic route that any airlines are making a profit from, it has to be EWR-CLT with CO or US, the bastards charge in excess of 250 plus

Oh no not $250 whole dollars.  Yeah sure
Try ABE, or any smaller mid-sized RJ-sized market to just about ANYWHERE in the nation. $250 would be a blessing.
 
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:17 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 21):
Oh no not $250 whole dollars.
Try ABE, or any smaller mid-sized RJ-sized market to just about ANYWHERE in the nation. $250 would be a blessing.

What youre talking about dosent exactly compare with CLT-NYC. With the amount of low fare airlines/fares from NYC, one would expect that a flight from NYC to America's 2nd largest financial center (CLT) could be a little cheaper...
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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:34 am

Quoting Boeingguy1 (Reply 22):
With the amount of low fare airlines/fares from NYC, one would expect that a flight from NYC to America's 2nd largest financial center (CLT) could be a little cheaper...

I agree. I think a good fare from NYC to CLT would be $180 r/t. I'm pretty sure when B6 announces their flights the fares will be around $79-$229 each way.

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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:17 am

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 23):

I agree. I think a good fare from NYC to CLT would be $180 r/t.

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RE: US Airways Lowers Fares In 20 East-Coast Markets:

Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:18 am

Yes, this is clearly in response to B6 and WN, who are just dying to fly CLT-PGV, CLT-LEX, PIT-ROC, CLT-CHA, and half of the rest of the routes. I'm sure B6 and WN will announce them any day now.  Yeah sure

Quoting Cltguy (Reply 12):
They will be going even cheaper next month. 50 cents. No joke.
http://www.50centflights.com

It's Juniper Bank's promotion, they'll be paying US for the flights. A discounted amount, to be sure, but US will be getting a good deal more than 50 cents.
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